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Navy threatens to penalize sailors who
purposely misuse gender pronouns

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Posted By: Judy W., 6/27/2022 9:49:19 AM

The Navy is threatening to penalize sailors who purposely misuse pronouns to describe transgender service members, viewing it as a violation of the service's harassment policy. Sailors who run afoul of the policy could face administrative or judicial action under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Navy Capt. Dave Hecht, a public affairs officer, told American Military News. "Intentional misuse of transgender service member pronouns is inappropriate and inconsistent with the Navy zero tolerance policy on harassment," Hecht told the news site. "The UCMJ prohibits provoking speeches or gestures, conduct that is of a nature to bring discredit upon the Armed Forces or is prejudicial to good order and discipline,


How to ensure that no normal people will ever decide to enlist.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 6/27/2022 10:04:32 AM (No. 1198352)
Plus they can't call our enemies names like Japz or Krautz - - the way they used to. They must be called "persons of Chinese and Persian ancestry" - - before lobbing their environmentally-friendly, non-toxic hand grenades at them.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: VirtuDawg 6/27/2022 10:05:44 AM (No. 1198356)
As a former US Navy Surface Warfare Officer, I submit the following professional opinion: this is INSANE!!!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: weirdone 6/27/2022 10:06:08 AM (No. 1198357)
The US military, once a meritocracy, home to some of the country's best and brightest, has become a hollow, woke image of its former status of the world's strongest force for peace in the world. Thank you, Barak Obama and the insane left for making the world a far more dangerous place.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rich323 6/27/2022 10:06:08 AM (No. 1198358)
Oh, now I get it. Pronouns are the new N word. This will be hard to change or stop once pronouns are required on a daily basis. I can’t wait for the first court martial over pronoun abuse and harassment. They are destroying the military and our society.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Pearson365 6/27/2022 10:06:59 AM (No. 1198360)
Yet another example of how desperate our military is for recruits. Normal Americans surely don’t want any part of the Biden military fiasco, a military where you risk punishment for not saying “Yes, they” and “No, they” to a transgender officer,
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Richard from Norwood 6/27/2022 10:10:30 AM (No. 1198368)
Question:? When will it end? Before or after all will be lost! I hate to be hitting the DEAD horse, but as I see it we MUST eliminate the LONG times these people are in office. We need TERM LIMITS now and not later. We are going to get them I just don't know where I'll still be alive!!??? My suggestions; Twelve years in the Senate. Ten years in Congress. And MOST IMPORTANT!!! Ten years for ALL of the life long Hangers-on who are, in my opinion, the biggest problem!!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 6/27/2022 10:17:49 AM (No. 1198385)
Meanwhile, the Red Chinese navy builds another aircraft carrier. The mission of the United States Navy is not pronouns.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: downnout 6/27/2022 10:20:20 AM (No. 1198388)
And how are they going to determine if the “misuse” was deliberate? This is Stalinist on steroids.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: NorthernDog 6/27/2022 10:21:41 AM (No. 1198390)
What is the non-binary form of Coxswain?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Ribicon 6/27/2022 10:26:01 AM (No. 1198394)
"In the Navy" by the Village People should be the official anthem of our New Gay Navy.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: GoodDeal 6/27/2022 10:29:34 AM (No. 1198396)
So next is the Pronoun Patrol. Courts Martial for you. Reduction in rank fines and brig time for you.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 6/27/2022 10:32:50 AM (No. 1198401)
The irony here is the pride the military - including the Navy - takes in being gender neutral. Female officers even now wear the same combo covers as their male counterparts (and they look ridiculous in them). So, introduce a few confused individuals into the ranks and it's suddenly all about sexual choice. Had an XO once who tried coercing everyone to stop using what were even accepted nicknames for their shipmates: Petty Officer Groskowski could not be referred to as "Ski", Seaman Ragusa could not be referred to as "Rags", etc. It didn't last long.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: pensom2 6/27/2022 10:37:31 AM (No. 1198405)
They think the Navy is having difficulty recruiting now? Just wait. Lloyd Austin and his sidekick Milley are morons.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: smokincol 6/27/2022 10:58:03 AM (No. 1198433)
if a first line supervisor hauls in a soldier, sailor, Marine or airman on this type of "offense" the supervisor should be reprimanded and not the enlisted man or woman. this is the worst kind of mind control and must be stopped, it has no place in the military
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 6/27/2022 11:09:34 AM (No. 1198447)
He, she, it. End of my use of pronouns. And I will NEVER use "he" for a she, or "she" for a he, or "they" for a single person. So, sue me. The Normals are a serious problem for the Insane Left, which currently is in control of the military.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: chance_232 6/27/2022 11:16:27 AM (No. 1198451)
I got out in 91 when men were men, women were women and the gender confused were not eligible for enlistment. I got out when "toxic masculinity" was a feature, not a bug.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: FLCracker 6/27/2022 11:21:11 AM (No. 1198459)
I have a friend in the military who is trans-gender (and is also a conservative.) For reasons passing understanding, I can refer to as a "she" when she is not present, but as I consciously try, I screw it up when she is present. (I believe this is because our unconscious pattern identification abilities. For the most part, I can distinguish male/female when everyone is at MOPP-4 and almost always get it right.) She knows me and doesn't say anything about it. However, other friends of hers give me the snake-eye and the little talks about using her preferred pronouns. I agree with OP's comment, plus the Navy is going to have a lot of people up on charges.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/27/2022 11:28:54 AM (No. 1198471)
Proof that our government isn't focused on what is important. Our enemies call it decadent behavior. They might be right. Don't see how representative government survives when stuff like this happens. It will only get worse. In many different ways. We will prioritize nonsense. We will ignore what is important.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: bad-hair 6/27/2022 11:29:27 AM (No. 1198473)
Up Yours Is Yours a pronoun ?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: chillijilli 6/27/2022 11:34:44 AM (No. 1198478)
A completely bogus waste of the Navy's time and energy---and they know it. The key word is "purposely." NOBODY can prove what was in someone else's mind at any given moment, so it's impossible to PROVE that someone purposely misused a pronoun. I can say, "you said "her" on purpose" and they can say, "No, I didn't", and just whom do you think is gonna win that argument? The Navy is promoting this drivel because they want to sound woke and oh-so-caring to badly-needed recruits. Ignore this stuff; it's utter nonsense.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/27/2022 11:36:17 AM (No. 1198480)
RE #17. I have a niece that is transgender. They identify as a male now. It is very difficult to use the pronouns they want since I knew them as a female for the first 20 years of their life. Anyone remember Amy Schneider who was on Jeopardy? Very easy to refer to them as a female since that is all I ever known them as, but they were once male. Familiarity is a big factor.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: curious1 6/27/2022 11:48:59 AM (No. 1198498)
Enabling mental illness isn't a good game plan.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: JimboUSN 6/27/2022 11:49:51 AM (No. 1198500)
I had to retire in 1996...BEFORE they made homosexuality mandatory.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: jasmine 6/27/2022 11:56:50 AM (No. 1198503)
The same bumbling "commander in chief" who abandoned Afghanistan, and left the Taliban with $60 billion in US military equipment has once again exposed his real priorities, He's leaving the border open, knowing terrorists, human traffickers and deadly drugs are coming through in ever increasing numbers. He couldn't care less about the impact of foreign criminals on American citizens. The above are real problems. This administration demanding adults pretend a biological male is a female...or face the consequences...doesn't give Americans confidence in their feeble-minded president, or their military leaders.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: skacmar 6/27/2022 11:57:11 AM (No. 1198504)
"Conduct that is of a nature to bring discredit upon the Armed Forces or is prejudicial to good order and discipline" is cited as the reason for forcing people to use the PC pronouns. I can think of nothing more disruptive or discrediting to the good order and discipline of the military than a transgender person throwing a hissy fit over being called he or she instead of they/them or whatever creative pronoun they have come up with that day and everyone else being afraid of using the incorrect pronoun and receiving discipling. Everyone will just ignore that person to stay safe also destroying the cohesion of the military unit.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Norway 6/27/2022 12:02:05 PM (No. 1198510)
Putin, Xi and Kim yong il are laughing their asses off.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: paral04 6/27/2022 1:25:45 PM (No. 1198593)
Shouldn't the Navy worry about being combat ready and not the proper way to behave at a social event? I want my tax money back if this is what it is going for.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: BooneBoy 6/27/2022 1:33:16 PM (No. 1198607)
As a Navy Vet, I would encourage every sailor (non career sailor) aboard each ship to use the normal gender identification. Let them court martial everyone, then who will operate the ship?
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Reply 29 - Posted by: T&L 6/27/2022 1:48:48 PM (No. 1198618)
Re#21: Please do not confuse the rest of us by using a plural pronoun when referring to one person. Thank you.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: DVC 6/27/2022 2:34:44 PM (No. 1198663)
Going along withr the mentally ill doesn't help them. Reality is always there, and it is always unchanged regardless of whatever sort of fantasies they weave and INSIST that others believe. Born one sex, die that sex. Fantasies to the contrary notwithstanding. Their fantasies make them mentally deranged and should be incontrovertible proof that they cannot be trusted to do anything of a critical nature. Everything in the military is of a critical nature during war. Get the mentally ill out of the military.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: rochow 6/27/2022 10:03:10 PM (No. 1199061)
We are facing @it from around the world and the stinking Navy piddles with this @it!!??? Are there any volunteers left these days???
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Reply 32 - Posted by: MickTurn 6/27/2022 10:53:51 PM (No. 1199123)
Hey Clowns, before I use YOUR gender Pronouns you have to address ME with My preferred Adjectives, among them are Brilliant, Handsome, AllKnowing etc...Until you bow and scrape to me I refuse to use your Pronouns. Happy Now?
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Italiano 6/27/2022 11:03:04 PM (No. 1199129)
Before too long, the Navy motto will be “Abandon Ship. “ Glad my sons are out. Have fun.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Mushroom 6/28/2022 12:38:46 AM (No. 1199193)
I clearly recall the pronouns my TI used in the 70's. And 'Gentlemen' was never one. Grow up.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: mifla 6/28/2022 7:18:14 AM (No. 1199366)
If I were enlisted, I would simply refer to everyone by their last name.
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