Post New Article

California appeals court rules homeless
have right to sleep on sidewalks, in parks

Original Article

Posted By: Beardo, 1/17/2024 1:04:47 PM

An appellate court upheld a ruling last week limiting San Francisco's efforts to clear drug encampments from sidewalks and public areas. (snip) In the ruling, Circuit Judge Lucy H. Koh wrote the majority opinion and was joined by Circuit Judge Roopali H. Desai who are both Biden appointees. The opinion used an interpretation that said it was "cruel and unusual" to prevent the homeless from sleeping in public. Trump appointee Circuit Judge Patrick J. Bumatay dissented, writing it "cannot be cruel and unusual to prohibit homeless persons from sleeping, camping, and lodging wherever they want, whenever they want."

Post Reply

Reminder: “WE ARE A SALON AND NOT A SALOON”

Your thoughts, comments, and ideas are always welcome here. But we ask you to please be mindful and respectful. Threatening or crude language doesn't persuade anybody and makes the conversation less enjoyable for fellow L.Dotters.


Reply 1 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 1/17/2024 1:09:55 PM (No. 1638326)
Next Up - - - - The "homeless" have a "right" to sleep in your master bedroom - - and there's nothing you can do about it.
22 people like this.

Reply 2 - Posted by: AGGW 1/17/2024 1:11:47 PM (No. 1638327)
To paraphrase a quote I think was once attributed to Ann Landers, their rights end where my rights begin. My right would be to be able to walk down a street that my tax money paid for.
25 people like this.

Reply 3 - Posted by: privateer 1/17/2024 1:12:34 PM (No. 1638329)
Now public sidewalks and parks. Tomorrow YOUR yard and any unused bedrooms. Gullifornia is now officially 'Bumtopia'. Yeah, we need Mr. Greasy Kid Stuff to rule the Land.
18 people like this.

Reply 4 - Posted by: Lawsy0 1/17/2024 1:29:57 PM (No. 1638344)
Gov. Brylcreem isn't the cause of California craziness, just one of the latest symptoms. (In this current decade. There were earlier decades of decay.) Those of us who hold tight to our life-long love of the Golden State will mourn and pine forever more, but we can never go back. The pain would be too great.
16 people like this.

Reply 5 - Posted by: aasilver 1/17/2024 1:37:41 PM (No. 1638352)
The Liberal mantra "chaos uber alles"
7 people like this.

Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 1/17/2024 1:42:14 PM (No. 1638357)
Th ecops used to roust the bums and send them out of town. Now the courts say the bums have more rights than we do. And how many of these bums aren't even Americans?
14 people like this.

Reply 7 - Posted by: Jethro bo 1/17/2024 1:44:12 PM (No. 1638363)
So based on the Biden judges, housing coding and eminent domain are cruel and unusual punishment as well.
9 people like this.

Reply 8 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 1/17/2024 1:46:24 PM (No. 1638367)
Too many foreigners making and interpreting our laws. A Korean and a Canadian/Indian in this case.
10 people like this.

Reply 9 - Posted by: bamboozle 1/17/2024 1:51:05 PM (No. 1638373)
Install homeless camps in the neighborhoods where the judges and politicians live. It's the only fair way.
25 people like this.

Reply 10 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 1/17/2024 2:03:10 PM (No. 1638382)
Put those homeless on the same sidewalk the good judge uses and see how fast that changes. NIMBY!
16 people like this.

Reply 11 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns 1/17/2024 2:23:03 PM (No. 1638388)
The city should immediately relocate the bums to the courthouse steps and the neighborhoods where these stupid justices live.
10 people like this.

Reply 12 - Posted by: jasmine 1/17/2024 3:01:13 PM (No. 1638410)
Understanding the background that led to closing mental institutions is critical to understanding intractable homelessness today. We once had hospital beds across the country for treating mental patients. In the 1950s well intentioned people thought it was possible to treat mental illness with new pharmaceuticals (that didn't appear as quickly as expected) and to treat the mentally ill in their own communities. What happened instead is that the good intentions got ahead of the facts. Too little supervision in hospitals led to horrifying mistreatment of patients, but instead of fixing that problem. the institutions were closed and the hospital beds lost.The community treatment facilities didn't get built, and the promising new drugs didn't appear, nor live up to expectations. Politicians today try to blame homelessness on a lack of housing. They blame school shootings on guns, as if mental illness isn't a factor. The mentally ill deserve better treatment than living on the streets. I encourage everyone to take a few minutes to read up on the history of deinstitutionalization, to better understand how allowing people to live on the streets is every bit as irresponsible as doing away with safe places where they can be treated. https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/deinstitutionalization-people-mental-illness-causes-and-consequences/2013-10
9 people like this.

Reply 13 - Posted by: MissMann 1/17/2024 3:12:28 PM (No. 1638418)
You're not allowed to line up tents in your front yard (or much else), you're not allowed to crap in the street, but those rules only apply to you. How does a culture survive such nonsense?
6 people like this.

Reply 14 - Posted by: Kafka2 1/17/2024 3:22:07 PM (No. 1638425)
I wonder where this judge was when all the homeless people were cleared from the sidewalks and parks for the visit of the leader of China? It seems to me that the law is whatever he and the politicians want it to be at any moment in time.
8 people like this.

Reply 15 - Posted by: nwcudagal 1/17/2024 4:21:23 PM (No. 1638468)
Many decades ago I worked in an insurance office on main street in a very small town. Occasionally a vagrant would wander in for free coffee and become disruptive, but that would not be tolerated for long. The Sheriff would show up with a bus ticket, and no more vagrant!
6 people like this.

Reply 16 - Posted by: FLCracker 1/17/2024 4:45:01 PM (No. 1638475)
They're looking at this the wrong way. Do the homeless have the right to deny the public access/use of public property? If so, are they any limits on that? If not, then they are, effectively, homesteaders, and the property is not public property. Then, I suppose, they can arrest them for not paying their taxes on their homesteaded property.
5 people like this.

Reply 17 - Posted by: Strike3 1/17/2024 5:17:45 PM (No. 1638500)
Ban all recreational drugs and the homeless will disappear faster than idle soldiers when the Sarge asks for volunteers to clean the latrines.
5 people like this.

Reply 18 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 1/17/2024 10:29:55 PM (No. 1638668)
Whatever happened to vagrancy laws?!?
1 person likes this.

Reply 19 - Posted by: padiva 1/17/2024 10:33:35 PM (No. 1638670)
Free pizza and ice cream this Saturday night 10pm at Pelousi's house. (BYOH - bring your own hammer)
1 person likes this.

Reply 20 - Posted by: SiliconValleyDude 1/17/2024 11:21:34 PM (No. 1638681)
How about they sleep in the Appeal Court building. Would that be ok?
1 person likes this.

Reply 21 - Posted by: Trigger2 1/18/2024 12:50:06 AM (No. 1638697)
Good luck with that one. I can already picture moving vans leaving CA.
1 person likes this.

Below, you will find ...
Most Recent Articles posted by "Beardo"
and
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)
Most Recent Articles posted by Beardo"
Florida Dem rep proposes tearing down
Statue of Liberty to protest 'bigoted'
GOP border policy
17 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/18/2024 2:05:36 PM Post Reply
On Wednesday, freshman Democrat Rep. Max Frost announced that in an act of protest against Republicans' desire to secure the border, he had drafted a bill that would remove the Statue of Liberty from New York City. Frost, who represents Florida's 10th District, referred to the statue as simply a "symbol that tells people to come here," failing to mention that the iconic monument sat next to Ellis Island, which for decades was the country's largest legal immigration hub. "My colleagues on the other side of the aisle, let's be honest with immigrants that deserve better than what you're offering them,"
Feds asked banks to search customer data
for ‘Trump,’ ‘MAGA’ references
after Capitol riot: Rep. Jim Jordan
7 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/18/2024 1:53:53 PM Post Reply
Federal investigators asked financial institutions to use search terms such as “TRUMP” and “MAGA” when combing over customer data in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) revealed Wednesday. The request came from the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen), according to documents obtained by the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government. The panel, headed by Jordan, demanded testimony from the agency’s former Strategic Operations Division director Noah Bishoff as part of a probe into what the Ohio Republican called an “alarming” case of “pervasive financial surveillance” seemingly conducted “on the basis of protected political” speech.
Oklahoma lawmaker wants animal control
to take furries from public schools: ‘Send
them to the pound’
11 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/18/2024 1:39:42 PM Post Reply
A student behaving like a silly goose in Oklahoma could soon be hauled out of class by animal control. State Rep. Justin Humphrey introduced a bill on Tuesday that would ban furries from public schools across the state — and allow animal control to round up those who defy the proposed law. “Students who purport to be an imaginary animal or animal species, or who engage in anthropomorphic behavior commonly referred to as furries at school shall not be allowed to participate in school curriculum or activities,” House Bill 3084 states.
Shaman performs pagan ritual over World
Economic Forum leaders at Davos Summit
11 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/18/2024 1:27:43 PM Post Reply
An Amazonian shaman on Wednesday performed a pagan ritual over a panel after the members discussed “Climate and Nature” at the World Economic Forum’s (WEF) 2024 meeting in Davos, Switzerland. After a discussion on how to “enable a net-zero, nature positive” future, a woman introduced as Chief Putanny from the Yawanawá tribe of the Amazon gave a brief address asking for help in “healing the planet.” She presented herself as representing “the voice of nature” and “the voice of the forest” and concluded, “When we are all united in our hearts and thoughts, our Mother Earth will listen to us.”
Most say Fani Willis ‘compromised’
and should drop Trump prosecution
4 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/18/2024 1:13:47 PM Post Reply
Fulton County prosecutor Fani Willis has lost the support of the public in her election racketeering case against former President Donald Trump, and many now believe that she should drop the charges. In a survey that found an unusually high percent of the nation aware of and focused on the Georgia case against Trump and several co-defendants, most voters said that newly raised ethical charges against Willis and a fellow prosecutor suggest she is “compromised” and should back off. In the Rasmussen Reports survey shared with Secrets, 49% said that the district attorney is compromised and the case against Trump “has to be dropped.”
California appeals court rules homeless
have right to sleep on sidewalks, in parks
21 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/17/2024 1:04:47 PM Post Reply
An appellate court upheld a ruling last week limiting San Francisco's efforts to clear drug encampments from sidewalks and public areas. (snip) In the ruling, Circuit Judge Lucy H. Koh wrote the majority opinion and was joined by Circuit Judge Roopali H. Desai who are both Biden appointees. The opinion used an interpretation that said it was "cruel and unusual" to prevent the homeless from sleeping in public. Trump appointee Circuit Judge Patrick J. Bumatay dissented, writing it "cannot be cruel and unusual to prohibit homeless persons from sleeping, camping, and lodging wherever they want, whenever they want."
Bar Complaint Filed Against Kevin Morris
for Financially Aiding Hunter Biden
5 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/17/2024 11:56:13 AM Post Reply
America First Legal on Tuesday filed a California bar complaint against Hunter Biden’s lawyer, Kevin Morris, for allegedly violating “both the text of the Rules of Professional Conduct and the well-established norms of the legal profession” of the California Bar Association. (snip) Morris’ financial aid to Hunter “is expressly prohibited by State Bar of California Rule 1.8.5(a),” America First Legal’s complaint contends. The rule is “intended to prevent the abuses which were criminalized under the principles of champerty and maintenance,” the legal defense fund argued.
Georgia Lawyer Writes in Daily Beast:
‘Why We Can’t Shrug Off the Fani Willis Scandal’
11 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/17/2024 11:14:44 AM Post Reply
Georgia lawyer Andrew Fleischman on Tuesday published an opinion piece in the left-leaning Daily Beast that said Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis should resign if the allegations she took steps to benefit a special prosecutor and romantic partner are true. (snip) Fleischman argued while the other two special prosecutors are “incredibly qualified,” they earn less than Wade, writing: (snip) Floyd is widely considered Georgia’s leading expert on state RICO prosecutions and helped draft the law. Combined, they billed $116,000 (less than a quarter of Wade’s total). (snip) He predicted that Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee in February would likely disqualify Willis and her entire office,
FBI Investigators Found Cocaine On Firearm
Pouch Hunter Biden Used, Prosecutors Say
3 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/16/2024 11:07:17 PM Post Reply
FBI investigators discovered powdered cocaine on the firearm pouch Hunter Biden had used to hold the gun he allegedly purchased in October 2018, Department of Justice (DOJ) prosecutors said in a Tuesday court filing. Special counsel David Weiss’ team filed a response motion to Hunter Biden’s selective prosecution claim and described how FBI investigators retrieved the alleged firearm in 2023 and found the alleged cocaine. (snip) “These episodes of persistent drug usage, documented by the defendant, in the immediate time frame before, during, and after his possession of the gun were evidence that he lied during the background check and unlawfully possessed the gun in October 2018,” the motion states.
Communist Dictator Picks Accused Criminal
Released By Biden For Senior Role
8 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/16/2024 6:42:52 PM Post Reply
Venezuelan Dictator Nicolas Maduro picked an accused criminal who was recently freed by the Biden administration for a senior cabinet position in the regime, Bloomberg reported. Alex Saab was previously arrested and extradited to the U.S. in 2021 on bribery and corruption charges, but was released in December 2023 as part of a prisoner swap deal between the Biden administration and Venezuela. Maduro has now chosen Saab to head up his regime’s international investment center, according to Bloomberg. Saab, a businessman, (snip) was charged with money laundering in a scheme of embezzling roughly $350 million out of Venezuela, according to the Department of Justice.
MLK’s Wife Coretta Scott King: Illegal
Immigration Drives Down Wages, Living
Standards for America’s Working Class
12 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/16/2024 12:31:46 PM Post Reply
Coretta Scott King, the wife of Martin Luther King, Jr., once helped successfully quash legislation from Republicans and Democrats in the early 1990s that would have eliminated fines for United States employers hiring illegal aliens over Americans. (snip) When Scott King got wind of Hatch’s legislation, she authored a letter with other Civil Rights leaders detailing how illegal immigration diminishes wages, living standards, quality of life, and employment opportunities for America’s working class and, specifically, black Americans who are most likely to compete against illegal aliens for jobs.
Pope Francis: ‘I Like to Think of Hell
as Empty’
31 replies
Posted by Beardo 1/16/2024 12:20:03 PM Post Reply
Pope Francis said this week he believes in hell but likes to think of it as “empty” because of God’s great mercy. “What I will say is not a dogma of faith but something personal,” the pontiff said Sunday evening on the Italian television program Che Tempo Che Fa. “I like to think of hell as empty; I hope it is,” he told the show’s host, Fabio Fazio. (snip) In March 2018, for instance, the Italian daily La Repubblica reported that the pope had told his longtime friend, Eugenio Scalfari, founder of the newspaper, that he does not believe hell exists.
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)
Surrender: Blinken Tells Netanyahu Israel
Can’t Defeat Hamas
61 replies
Posted by Dreadnought 1/18/2024 1:49:16 AM Post Reply
Secretary of State Antony Blinken told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last week that Israel cannot defeat Hamas — that there is no “military solution,” and that Israel will have to accept a Palestinian state. Netanyahu reportedly rejected the idea. NBC News reported Wednesday that Blinken, and Biden, are therefore trying to work around Netanyahu — the democratically-elected leader of Israel — in a departure from the Biden administration’s posture as the supposed defender of democratic ideals: Blinken told Netanyahu that ultimately there is no military solution to Hamas, according to the officials, and that the Israeli leader needs to recognize that or history will repeat itself and violence will continue. But,
Rice University unveils 'Afrochemistry'
class that will 'explore the intersection
of racial justice and chemistry' - dubbing
it 'the study of black-life matter'
42 replies
Posted by Hazymac 1/18/2024 10:29:39 AM Post Reply
Rice University is offering an 'Afrochemistry' class that promises to analyze science through a 'contemporary African-American lens'. Marketed as 'the study of black-life matter', a play on words merging science jargon with the Black Lives Matter movement, the course begins this semester. The course description on the university's website explains students will 'apply chemical tools and analysis to understand black life in the US' and 'implement African American sensibilities to analyze chemistry'. 'Diverse historical and contemporary scientists, intellectuals, and chemical discoveries will inform personal reflections and proposals for addressing inequities in chemistry and chemical education,' it read. Brooke Johnson, a Rice graduate with a PhD in chemistry from Princeton hired last August as part
Rob Reiner Attacks Christian Trump Supporters:
How Does Anyone Who Believes in Jesus
Support Donald Trump?
41 replies
Posted by Harlowe 1/17/2024 1:28:54 AM Post Reply
Hollywood filmmaker-actor Rob Reiner is taking aim at Christians who support former President Donald Trump, saying he doesn’t understand how anyone who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ could vote for Trump. [Snip] “Jesus told us to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. How in God’s name can anyone who believes in the teachings of Jesus support Donald Trump?” he wrote. [Snip] As Breitbart News reported, Rob Reiner is producing a new documentary God and Country, which seeks to keep the left’s favorite new boogeyman “Christian nationalism” in the cultural conversation heading into the November elections.
Joy Reid sparks anger after saying white
Christians are overrepresented in Iowa
and Trump is so successful because they
believe he will 'return' America to them
37 replies
Posted by Imright 1/17/2024 4:14:24 AM Post Reply
Cable news pundit Joy Reid claimed Donald Trump won the Iowa caucus because 'white Christians' believe he will 'return' the US to them. Reid called the Midwest state 'hyper evangelical' and therefore full of voters who support the former president in his campaign to regain the White House. Trump handily won the Iowa caucus on Tuesday night with 51 per cent of the vote in frigid conditions to kick off the primary season. Reid discussed how overrepresented white Christians were in Iowa compared to the rest of the country on MSNBC coverage of the caucus.
Walgreens Closing Boston Location in Poor
Neighborhood Due to Theft, Locals Outraged (Video)
32 replies
Posted by Imright 1/17/2024 4:03:31 AM Post Reply
Walgreens is closing a store in a lower income neighborhood of Boston due to rampant theft and the people who live there are outraged. They’re actually protesting the store over news of the closure. This is a familiar chain of events in liberal cities. The Democrats who run the city allow theft and don’t punish criminals. Then the store decides to close and suddenly everyone is angry at the store instead of the people who actually caused the problem. This is going to happen in more and more cities until Democrats decide they want to punish crime.
UN Secretary-General Demands End to ‘Fossil
Fuel,’ Claims It’s ‘Inevitable’
31 replies
Posted by Dreadnought 1/17/2024 2:42:05 PM Post Reply
The United Nations (UN) Secretary-General demands a total phase out of fossil fuels — to stop a “climate crisis” that doesn’t actually exist. How dare you own a car despite the fact there’s weather, you cretinous serf! Speaking at the World Economic Forum’s (WEF) Davos 2024 conference, António Guterres condescendingly lectured about his favorite topic (when he’s not supporting Palestinian jihadis against Israel): the alleged crisis of climate change. Because climate alarmists have only been dead wrong for 50+ years, so we know they’re right this time. “2023 went down as the hottest year on record,” Guterres lied. “But it could be one of the coolest years [of] the future.”
John Kerry Goes Full Davos Totalitarian:
No Politician Can Reverse Climate Change Policy
29 replies
Posted by Dreadnought 1/18/2024 1:25:35 AM Post Reply
As Lincoln Brown reported for PJ Media yesterday, John Kerry massively expanded his carbon footprint to journey to Davos for a luxury getaway in order to lecture the peasants, as Avi Yemeni puts it, on their own carbon footprint. At a Davos speaking engagement, Kerry had the following to say regarding the intersection of democracy and Climate Change™: If you wound up with a different President who was opposed to climate crisis, I got news for you. No one politician anywhere in the world can undo what is happening now...The only issue for all of us is not whether or not we can get or will get to a
Hamas’ underground tunnels are at least
350 miles long and have turned Gaza ‘into
a fortress’: officials
27 replies
Posted by mc squared 1/17/2024 11:27:23 AM Post Reply
Hamas’ sinister network of tunnels underneath the Gaza Strip may be over 350 miles long – or hundreds of miles more than initial estimates, sources said this week. The tunnels may run for anywhere between 350 to 450 miles, and boast a staggering 5,700 entrance shafts, senior Israeli officials told The New York Times. The new estimates – which could not be confirmed – are over 100 miles longer than the original numbers, which placed the tunnel network at around 250 miles long, the outlet noted. The tunnels’ vastness is “extraordinary” given that Gaza’s longest point only stretches about 25 miles, the Times said.
Should Blacks be paid slavery reparations
in the form of homelands?
26 replies
Posted by Big Bopper 1/18/2024 7:02:28 PM Post Reply
Many Black activists are agitating for two things. One, they want reparations for the enslavement of some of their ancestors centuries ago, a small fraction of which is to be paid by the people whose ancestors were the enslavers, and a large fraction of which is to be paid by people like me whose ancestors back then were raiding rival clans in the Scottish Highlands without ever setting eyes on a Black person in their entire poor, nasty, brutish and short lives. Two, they want to reinstitute racial segregation. They want Black dorm buildings in college, Black classes, Black this and Black that,
To combat chronic absenteeism, bipartisan
Ohio lawmakers propose paying kids to
go to school
25 replies
Posted by OhioNick 1/18/2024 2:08:28 PM Post Reply
The bipartisan sponsors of a new bill to target chronic absenteeism want to model a piece of advice from novelist Jean Shepherd: “In God we trust, all others pay cash.” In a proposed two-year pilot program, Republican state Rep. Bill Seitz and Democratic Rep. Dani Isaacsohn, both of Cincinnati, said cash transfers would be sent to kindergarteners and ninth graders. [SNIP] According to the Ohio Department of Education and Workforce, prior to the pandemic, kindergarteners considered chronically absent – missing 10% or more of a school year for any reason – registered at 11%. In the last school year, the rate ballooned to 29%.
BlackRock Chief Warns Davos Elites: Trump
Victory Poses ‘Fundamental’ Challenge
to Europe
25 replies
Posted by mc squared 1/17/2024 12:14:23 PM Post Reply
The prospect of a Donald Trump return to the White House in 2024 poses a “fundamental” challenge to Europe, the leader of the world’s largest investment company warned Tuesday. The Daily Telegraph reports BlackRock vice chairman Philipp Hildebrand issued his caution from the sidelines of the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland. In doing so he added his voice to the swelling chorus from Europe that fears a Trump return to the world stage. The veteran Swiss banker said the re-election of the former U.S. president “would challenge Europe fundamentally” given Trump’s determination to embrace America First in matters from trade to diplomacy, NATO funding, and climate policy.
Chinese lab crafts mutant COVID-19 strain
with 100% kill rate in ‘humanized’
mice: ‘Surprisingly’ rapid death
25 replies
Posted by Dreadnought 1/17/2024 9:53:17 AM Post Reply
In a Wuhan-esque study, Chinese scientists are experimenting with a mutant COVID-19 strain that is 100% lethal to “humanized” mice. The deadly virus — known as GX_P2V — attacked the brains of mice that were engineered to reflect genetic makeup similar to people, according to a study shared last week out of Beijing. “This underscores a spillover risk of GX_P2V into humans and provides a unique model for understanding the pathogenic mechanisms of SARS-CoV-2-related viruses,” the authors wrote. The deadly virus is a mutated version of GX/2017, a coronavirus cousin that was reportedly discovered in Malaysian pangolins in 2017 — three years before the pandemic. Pangolins, also called scaly anteaters,
Post New Article