Hamas’ underground tunnels are at least
350 miles long and have turned Gaza ‘into
a fortress’: officials
New York Post,
by
Olivia Land
Original Article
Posted By: mc squared,
1/17/2024 11:27:23 AM
Hamas’ sinister network of tunnels underneath the Gaza Strip may be over 350 miles long – or hundreds of miles more than initial estimates, sources said this week.
The tunnels may run for anywhere between 350 to 450 miles, and boast a staggering 5,700 entrance shafts, senior Israeli officials told The New York Times.
The new estimates – which could not be confirmed – are over 100 miles longer than the original numbers, which placed the tunnel network at around 250 miles long, the outlet noted.
The tunnels’ vastness is “extraordinary” given that Gaza’s longest point only stretches about 25 miles, the Times said.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
mean Gene 1/17/2024 11:37:06 AM (No. 1638259)
No wonder we're starting to see some Gazans turning on Hamas.
The theft from the average Gazan has proven to be enormous.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
privateer 1/17/2024 11:41:51 AM (No. 1638263)
FTA: 'The shaft inside the steelworks descended about 30 years.....' Man! That is one DEEP tunnel!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
NorthStar 1/17/2024 11:42:39 AM (No. 1638264)
Need to cross connect them to the Mediterranean
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
bighambone 1/17/2024 11:45:02 AM (No. 1638265)
You have to wonder how much so-called US foreign aid money was used to construct those tunnels?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Venturer 1/17/2024 11:49:45 AM (No. 1638269)
If they are living like rats it's because that is what they are.
Just imagine the time, effort and money it took to dig and add structure to these tunnels in secret.
Then imagine if the time effort and money had been used for real constructive purposes.
Why would any country send aid to these people when they could support themselves if they weren't spending all of their money and time digging tunnels so they could kidnap and kill Israeli's. Sending financial and medical and humanitarian aid to these people is sending them money for their dumbassed hate war
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
kono 1/17/2024 12:08:44 PM (No. 1638285)
Like a major infestation of gophers in a golf course... ordinary methods for getting rid of the problem are made ineffective by the sheer multitude of pathways and portals. It's just not possible to seal all the escape routes.
Now is that Gaza? Or Juarez? Both terrorists and drug cartels use the same strategy to elude those tasked to stop them.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
downnout 1/17/2024 12:21:34 PM (No. 1638289)
Gas and a match…
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 1/17/2024 12:29:15 PM (No. 1638297)
Adding to #3, this could be done with horizontal directional drilling. No need for pumps. Hamas would then have their own personal fishing holes in their backyards. Texans can help with this project.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
red1066 1/17/2024 12:40:32 PM (No. 1638303)
With a tunnel network this extensive, I wonder if flooding the tunnels with sea water would collapse the ground above it creating huge ponds and lakes or with buildings collapsing.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
seamusm 1/17/2024 12:48:06 PM (No. 1638309)
Damn near every dime of aid has gone for militarization of Gaza. The same for all of the money paid or diverted to Iran.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
dwa 1/17/2024 12:48:46 PM (No. 1638312)
If this terrorist group Hamas had spent the money on their infrastructure and economy instead of these tunnels, the Palestinian people would actually be having a decent life rather than be mired in war. But their hatred of Jews exceeds all else.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Ashley Brenton 1/17/2024 12:52:18 PM (No. 1638314)
What happens when all of this ends and Israel decides it is no longer going to be the source of electricity or potable water for Gaza?
Nobody will be able to live there. Making all of this a moot point.
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Fixed fortifications are monuments to man’s folly.
Fill them with sea water, gas them, bury them.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
readtheBook 1/17/2024 1:16:15 PM (No. 1638334)
Details such as these reinforce my belief that the Israeli bombing campaign is the only effective approach to eliminating Hamas. Several have suggested that Israel should have had a much more restrained and "surgical" response to October 7 by coordinating efforts of the Arab Gulf states combined with special forces action.
Easy to be Monday night quarterbacks, but such an extensive network of tunnels could sustain an urban terror resistance indefinately with a disproportionate attrition of IDF.
Israel is a tiny country of less than 10 million.
It really is a matter of whether they continue to exist or not.
(P.S. I believe the Bible gives us the answer to that)
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 1/17/2024 1:21:16 PM (No. 1638337)
In Gaza the Orkin man wears a yarmulke.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Roscoelewis 1/17/2024 1:22:01 PM (No. 1638338)
And guess whose money (aka dollars) was used to build all those tunnels.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 1/17/2024 1:24:23 PM (No. 1638340)
Morlocks lived the same way. Has anyone mapped out all the tunnels? Does Hamas even know the extent of their own underground network? How long before Israel starts making their own entrances to the network. Hamas has probably been doing this for decades.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
hershey 1/17/2024 1:31:06 PM (No. 1638346)
Reminds me of Paint Your Wagon....
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
DVC 1/17/2024 1:45:34 PM (No. 1638365)
They will still collapse when demolition charges are set properly.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
cor-vet 1/17/2024 1:59:52 PM (No. 1638381)
That's going to take a lot of water to flood them all!
Just wondering, does anyone proof read these articles or teach these modern journalists to spell?
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Hermit_Crab 1/17/2024 3:04:41 PM (No. 1638412)
Just imagine what they could have achieved putting all that work into making civic improvements or producing products to sell, rather than just for facilitating murder.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
earlybird 1/17/2024 3:24:39 PM (No. 1638427)
What is the total area of Gaza? Has anyone bothered to try to figure out if this estimate is possible?
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
earlybird 1/17/2024 3:32:34 PM (No. 1638431)
I'll answer my own questio:
The Gaza Strip has a total land area of about 360 square kilometres.
It's 41 kilometres long from its northern border with Israel to Egypt down south, a distance just shy of a marathon run.
The small territory is 13 kilometres at its widest, about 5 kilometres at its narrowest, and about 10 kilometres at the top.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-24/how-big-is-the-gaza-strip/103001830
So how do 350 miles of tunnels work out?
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
smokincol 1/17/2024 5:33:34 PM (No. 1638510)
solution:
- level the place on the surface and
- flood every inch of existing tunnel
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Foghorn 1/17/2024 5:53:09 PM (No. 1638525)
Tunnels in Japan were the reason for dropping two nuclear bombs. I have personally seen the tunnels and they are extensive. Earthquakes did not destroy many of the tunnels. Many of the tunnels included medical stations and barracks for troops. There would have been great loss of life for the Japanese and the American troops if Truman had not decided to drop the bombs.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 1/18/2024 8:43:03 AM (No. 1638859)
Re #23. Would guess the tunnel system has multiple levels. Compare it to Orc infested Moria from Lord of the Rings.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
broken01 1/18/2024 11:26:23 AM (No. 1639015)
Flood them all. Enough said.
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Amazing photos of underground living like rats.