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California's electrical grid has an EV problem

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Posted By: NorthernDog, 5/20/2022 8:52:03 AM

California energy officials issued a sobering warning this month, telling residents to brace for potential blackouts as the state’s energy grid faces capacity constraints heading into the summer months. And since the state has committed to phase out all new gas-powered vehicles by 2035 — well ahead of federal targets — the additional load from electric vehicle (EV) charging could add more strain to the electric grid. “Let’s say we were to have a substantial number of [electric] vehicles charging at home as everybody dreams,” Ram Rajagopal, an associate professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering at Stanford University, who authored


This is just common sense. Everyone will want to re-charge their vehicle in the evening. The electrical grid cannot possibly handle such a load.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: curious1 5/20/2022 9:06:52 AM (No. 1160762)
The only ones this is a surprise to are the ignorant Dunning-Kruger sufferers that buy into the 'renewable energy' scam.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: planetgeo 5/20/2022 9:16:49 AM (No. 1160772)
The whole EV push is part of the grand plan to cripple America and bring on mass riots by overloading our entire energy grid. The communists believe that will finally enable to seize full control of the country via martial law and suspension of our constitution. What they haven't counted on is the possibility that a lot of them will end up dangling from lamp posts and that those who love this country still outnumber and outgun anything that can throw at us.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 5/20/2022 9:16:56 AM (No. 1160773)
Don't let California take down the rest of the US energy grid when they lose power.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: PChristopher 5/20/2022 9:17:58 AM (No. 1160775)
Actually, the California grid has a Democrat problem.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: udanja99 5/20/2022 9:19:32 AM (No. 1160779)
That old law of unintended consequences. Or is it just that leftists are beyond ignorant and stupid?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Old Army Vet 5/20/2022 9:23:59 AM (No. 1160782)
Something tells me that no one thought this through at all. I have 48 years experience in the field and believe me, we are not ready for this anywhere. It would take many years to prepare our electrical grid for this power requirement that we will need.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: formerNYer 5/20/2022 9:31:12 AM (No. 1160789)
Oh crap now more of those liberal idiots will move out a ruin another beautiful state.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: JackBurton 5/20/2022 9:33:16 AM (No. 1160794)
Why weren't they told??? (sarcasm font/off)
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Reply 9 - Posted by: ROLFNader 5/20/2022 9:33:45 AM (No. 1160797)
This is what happens when a brain-dead nincompoop is put up as a candidate by mere name recognition-accompanied by a few still photos at a press conference. A mob of Goolocks elect the village idiot and then wonder why their cars don't work.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Californian 5/20/2022 9:35:35 AM (No. 1160800)
Lol, I'm moving right before the grid collapse!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: kennedylaw 5/20/2022 9:36:38 AM (No. 1160802)
The Ministry of Truth needs to crack down on false reports like this. It is a well known fact that EVs are magically powered by rainbows and unicorn farts.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 5/20/2022 9:40:44 AM (No. 1160808)
The sun stops shining, the wind stops blowing. Voodoo energy can never meet the needs of the baseload.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: paral04 5/20/2022 9:44:25 AM (No. 1160815)
My goodness! All those Left Wing hi-tech geniuses in California, that want to tell us how to live are lives, couldn't have figured that out.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Laotzu 5/20/2022 9:49:26 AM (No. 1160823)
Another report demonstrating why the Democrats are the party of unintended, entirely foreseeable consequential failures.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: LanceLink1 5/20/2022 9:52:50 AM (No. 1160827)
The elephant in the room few of these articles mention is the available mount of lithium, the mining of the lithium and its environmental impact, and the cost of turning raw lithium into usable battery systems from shipping materials around the world to the actual production. Now factor in the environmental impact on disposing of used batteries and do we still call this renewable clean energy? And for what purpose? Because the earth experiences weather?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: jimincalif 5/20/2022 9:56:02 AM (No. 1160831)
Well duh! And wait til they shut down Diablo Canyon! Math is hard for democrats. We fled to Idaho last year.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: TLCary 5/20/2022 10:06:33 AM (No. 1160844)
A friend bought two EV and planned to charge them with solar. A Tesla takes 100KW and over 10 hours to charge. A 10 KW/Hour system will cost at least $30K and be 30'x30' (per car). As long as you have all sunny days and you only drive at night you can save the planet for a few years before the solar panels and the batteries wear out and become highly toxic waste. My friend sold both his EVs and now has a big SUV. If only math weren't so racist he could have saved some trouble by using a pencil and a piece of paper.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Cat Ballou 5/20/2022 10:08:35 AM (No. 1160846)
Hmmmm.......the burning question is.........where does the electricity to charge all those EVs come from? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 5/20/2022 10:09:12 AM (No. 1160847)
The threat of blackouts is why emergency generator sales are soaring.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna 5/20/2022 10:16:56 AM (No. 1160852)
Communism is an inherently parasitic aracetic system. the most hopeful thing that they can wish for is that the host organism dies slowly. This is why we have no need to worry about Russian nuclear weapons, they haven't been able to afford the maintenance on them for 40 years.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Highlander 5/20/2022 10:29:19 AM (No. 1160871)
I suggest these EV owners use hand cranks to generate sufficient charge for their toy cars.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Rich323 5/20/2022 10:37:19 AM (No. 1160878)
Wait and see what happens the first time an earthquake or other event takes down the grid for a few weeks! Lots of people stranded and unable to get out of the area. They can truck in gas in tankers and dispense for immediate use. What if the electric system repair trucks or earthquake debris removal heavy equipment are all electric? LA will become a permanent pile of rubble.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: smokincol 5/20/2022 10:40:12 AM (No. 1160881)
too many demcommies in that state
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Reply 24 - Posted by: VirtuDawg 5/20/2022 10:41:09 AM (No. 1160883)
Let’s review: Rampant crime, high taxes, uncontrolled wildfires, water shortages, upcoming electricity shortages, corporations and businesses and taxpayers fleeing to “red” states, housing affordability, high poverty and homelessness rates. But don’t worry. Governor Hairdo is right on top of these issues, focusing on more abortions, more illegal immigration, and higher taxes. This should solve these problems (s/o)
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Reply 25 - Posted by: FLCracker 5/20/2022 11:08:34 AM (No. 1160897)
That's okay. I'm sure Los Angeles has the fix in to ensure they get all their needs/wants are fulfilled before the rest of the state is considered. Same as they do with water.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: DVC 5/20/2022 11:15:06 AM (No. 1160904)
When you have Green Energy, you have no energy at all.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Rich323 5/20/2022 11:20:47 AM (No. 1160915)
Kamel toe just dropped $500 million to build electric school busses! Per AOC electricity comes out of that thingy on the wall, so no problem overloading the system /s.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Rich323 5/20/2022 11:25:32 AM (No. 1160919)
And emergency generators run on what? FOSSIL Fuels like gasoline, propane or natural gas, all of which are on the chopping block of the Biden administration. How do you rebuild after a disaster when there is NO electricity for weeks? Electric tools, electric chainsaws, electric bulldozers, electric dump trucks, and electric electric repair trucks! Idiots all!
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Reply 29 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 5/20/2022 12:12:06 PM (No. 1160987)
The liberals of California will come up with a solution. Think exercise bikes hooked up to the power grid. Everybody (without an exemption) from age 10 to 65 will be required to peddle 'x' number of hours a day. There will be public announcements declaring peddling patriotic. Other public announcements will gush over the health benefits as well as solving the energy crisis. Washington will be sure to adopt California's plan. and institute it nationwide.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: DVC 5/20/2022 12:23:05 PM (No. 1161001)
A friend who owned a cabin near mine in the mountains of Colorado had worked as a powerplant engineer in California his whole career. He told horror stories on how the recent past Dems had started the power grid in the state down the path to doom. He is dead now, but he was very displeased with the way the power grid in California had been mismanaged and crippled by political idiots.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: cor-vet 5/20/2022 1:11:03 PM (No. 1161033)
I think nasty Nancy should be a shining example to all of us, and make her weekly commutes from Kalifornia to the swamp and back, in an electric vehicle! In fact, all the green new deal proponents should step up to the plate w/ nasty Nan.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: cold porridge 5/20/2022 2:35:51 PM (No. 1161102)
Let's add a couple of other issues to this mess. Cryptocurrency mining also uses a very vast amount of electricity. There is one of the largest attempting to set up in my county in the NW. They came here because the electricity is relatively cheap when compared to most of the nation, mainly because of the dams on rivers. They get a special price they pay, but as has been the case in other areas, they use so much power that the local power company is forced to supplement by buying more expensive power outside our area in order to provide for power to ratepayers, so ratepayer's electric bill skyrockets. Also, do a little research and you'll see that Hunter and Joe have invested in Chinese lithium mines. No wonder he wants everyone to drive electric vehicles. I hate these commies more every day.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: hershey 5/20/2022 3:20:51 PM (No. 1161144)
#19 is spot local Rural Electric Co-op is installing 22KW Generac house sized generators faster than they can get them...mine proved it's worth last night yet again when a huge storm passed through and the line power went out...only thing I knew was the blinking clock on the electric stove this morning...
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Reply 34 - Posted by: FLCracker 5/20/2022 5:07:37 PM (No. 1161223)
#29, I saw the movie! Soylent Green, wasn't it?
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Reply 35 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 5/20/2022 5:07:49 PM (No. 1161224)
Darn the luck.
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