Will There Even Be a China at the End
of the Century?
Frontpage Mag,
by
Daniel Greenfield
Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac,
1/18/2024 8:35:12 AM
China used to boast that this would be its century, but will there even be a China at the end of this century?
The numbers are not promising.
China’s population fell for the second year in a row in 2023, as deaths outpaced births in what was once the world’s most populous country.
Chinese authorities see the declining population as an existential threat to its economic future.
In 2022, China saw its first population decline since the 1960s, though it still had a population of 1.41175 billion people.
China’s population declined for a second consecutive year in 2023, dropping by about 2.08 million to 1.409 billion people, the country’s National Bureau of Statistics announced Wednesday.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
seamusm 1/18/2024 8:47:14 AM (No. 1638865)
Knowing the Chinese Communist's Godless evil, they will probably start requiring women to do military service as baby-making prostitutes and giving medals for rape. Taking birth control with be criminalized. Or they'll start wars with their neighbors and bringing women captives back as booty.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
GrampaTerry 1/18/2024 8:52:00 AM (No. 1638871)
Maybe Gov Abbott could start using planes instead of buses.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
sw penn 1/18/2024 8:56:28 AM (No. 1638878)
The threat of China isn't that it is a great nuclear super power.
It is that dying things lash out.
And, there is no promise of benefit in
nuclear Chinese warlords...
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
MattMusson1 1/18/2024 9:00:56 AM (No. 1638882)
In its 2500+ year history, China has only been a united country about 10% of that time. Most of that period was under the Mongols. China could easily fracture into warlord districts and coastal city states.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Quigley 1/18/2024 9:05:12 AM (No. 1638887)
When sick, perverse leaders turn humans into statistics to be managed, the managees wonder "what's the point?"
Who could respect Big Bidet or any Dim? They're Big Shots/thugs when they've got the DOJ to beat up on those they don't approve of. So of course the populace becomes cynical about the present and the future. Presumably China is worse.
Unfortunately, China's command and control is what the Dims are jealous of.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
NorthStar 1/18/2024 9:42:31 AM (No. 1638928)
Wait and see what happens after they release their new Covid virus
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
FormerDem 1/18/2024 9:54:53 AM (No. 1638935)
what i remember is when they had initial big covid losses they set out to infect the rest of the world and equal things up.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
planetgeo 1/18/2024 9:59:18 AM (No. 1638939)
Actually, my prediction is that China will eventually become New Taiwan. Capitalist, democratic forces will subsume and take over from the communists. Their days are numbered. And I'm serious.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
columba 1/18/2024 10:09:26 AM (No. 1638948)
Well, we must consider that China killed many of its unborn children ... and the United States is working on the same idea.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
stablemoney 1/18/2024 10:20:42 AM (No. 1638959)
Will this nonsense ever end? The Chinese can stop having babies, and they can start having them again. These models assume the trend continues in perpetuity, which never happens. The models are prefabricated frauds.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Scribelus 1/18/2024 10:40:15 AM (No. 1638977)
In the spirit of international amity let‘s help the Communists by sending back all of the illegal Chinese invaders who currently infest America.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
DVC 1/18/2024 11:35:06 AM (No. 1639020)
China isn't anything remotely as monolithic as it often seems to outsiders. The history of China is a history of warlords controlling portions of the country as their fiefdoms, warring against the other warlords. They have hundreds of different languages, meaning they are "diverse"......also known as factions. diversity is NOT strength, it is weakness, division and in-fighting.
They are on course demographically to halve their population in the next 20-30 years. The huge move from an 18th century agrarian society with regular famines to a 20th century communist dictatorship with foreign built factories has taken only 50 years or so, leading to massive internal contradictions. The middle class had zero outlet for actual savings for retirement, and only one child so couldn't do their historic dependency on their children and grandchildren. So, they put immense amounts of money into buying real estate, primarily high rise apartments in "new cities" as their 'investments'.
For bizarre cultural reasons, these apartments couldn't be finished beyond bare concrete walls. No plumbing, no wiring, etc....all by cultural convention had to be built by the eventual final owner. So, they have tens of millions of bare concrete 'apartments' in "new cities" without industry, jobs, or people. Dozens of these ghost cities with boulevards, shrubbery, beautiful buildings, shopping malls, etc.
Everything except people and industry, as their population rapidly shrinks. No one will populate these ghost cities.
That 'retirement savings' plan is now literally bankrupt, and they have been demolishing these high rises in many places in spectacular fashion with explosives. Billions of tons of concrete and millions of tons of steel expended on these monuments
to insanity.
So, their aging "retirees" have lost their retirement investments, financially ruined.
And China's labor costs are higher than many other countries now, and factories are moving out of the country since they showed themselves to be unreliable suppliers in recent years. Deglobalization of manufacturing is real, and China will be the primary victim, unable to consume the output of their own factories, with shrinking overseas market for their shoddy products.
And China is not self sufficient in food or energy, and cannot be. They have little arable land and extremely poor energy resources inside the country. They import massive quantities of food and fuels. They won't be able to pay for them much longer as their highly artificial economy begins falling apart. As pirates and terrorists shut down the shipping lanes, China's much vaunted navy has very few ships with the range to go out and protect their shipping commerce of food and fuel. If the US and other countries don't protect maritime commerce -- China will starve.
An unstable China, with nukes, is not a good thing going into the future. I have worried for decades that the excess males who will never find a wife in China will be seeking to divert their energies into war.
Old Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times."
Too damned interesting, I think.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
chumley 1/18/2024 11:35:17 AM (No. 1639021)
I'll be happy if there is an America at the end of the decade.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
DVC 1/18/2024 11:36:06 AM (No. 1639023)
Re #10. When their majority population is beyond fertile years....no they CANNOT 'start having them again'.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
broken01 1/18/2024 11:44:04 AM (No. 1639029)
That one child (son) policy is starting to bite the Chicom's in their butts.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Strike3 1/18/2024 11:50:59 AM (No. 1639033)
Assuming that around 20% of the populations of both China and the United States are capable of performing military duties in the case of a mutual war, that means that every American will have to shoot at least three Chinese soldiers to completely wipe out the country. I like our odds.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Strike3 1/18/2024 12:01:36 PM (No. 1639036)
Recent archaelogical findings while digging at the base of the Great Wall show that the Chinese were a civilization as far back as 7,000 years ago and if all of their culture and progress had been allowed to progress, they would probably be running the world. The same holds true for civilizations like Persia that have rotted into a dump like Iran. It's disheartening to see what war and incompetent leadership can do to a civilization. Sometimes war is necessary but incompetent leadership is never a good thing.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
konocti95 1/18/2024 12:42:51 PM (No. 1639063)
#12 - Congratulations on writing a comment longer than the article! I appreciate your insight and the concise explanation. I'm curious to see the how the next ten years play out because the North Korean model of government seems a very robust and transferable option for current CCP leadership.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
SoSensible 1/18/2024 1:26:43 PM (No. 1639084)
#12 - you have long been my go-to poster for in-depth explaining and having intelligent commentary. Thanks for this. And thanks to a number of other reliable posters who help me to understand all these complex issues and make responsible decisions on my own.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 1/18/2024 3:07:41 PM (No. 1639149)
More and more, China looks like North Korea. With lots of nukes. One giant belligerent hermit kingdom. China will be around by the end of the century. They have been around for 4000 years. It may look remarkably different from what it looks like today.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
DVC 1/18/2024 4:07:37 PM (No. 1639183)
For those interested in learning more about China's huge waste of money, raw materials, energy and labor on useless things....here's a an Aussy guy who travels around China on a motorcycle and has done a lot of "look from the inside" about what's really going in China.
This one is pretty interesting. Amazing and sad to see so much raw materials, energy and labor just wasted.\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ8JBTIVUVw
Enjoy.
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