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Trump vs. DeSantis, by the numbers

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Posted By: Solid_Oak, 6/26/2022 12:40:57 PM

Based on a casual reading of the polls, Donald Trump looks to have smooth sailing to the Republican presidential nomination in 2024 and the chance to erase the stink of losing to Joe Biden that he so covets. But if that’s the case, why does Trump seem so panicky these days? Simple: Trump is in trouble, and — when you dig into the numbers — his grip on the GOP nomination is getting more tenuous. It is Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) who has all the momentum.


I'm sure people have doubts on both sides of this issue. We'll see what happens going forward.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 6/26/2022 12:43:46 PM (No. 1197537)
Never too early to foment division, I suppose.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: smokincol 6/26/2022 12:59:19 PM (No. 1197559)
when is everyone going to stop this foolishness of trying to pit our duly elected President, Donald J. Trump against one of his most ardent supporters and present Governor of the State of Florida, Ron DeSantis? the Governor has already said he is not interested in the Presidency, yet ,and I'm sure the people of Florida are not interested in having him leave the governance of the state and seeing the masterful way he has governed while in office, the out cry from the people would be deafening- any red-blooded "Republican" wants #45 to run in 2024 and bring sanity to the federal level of government, that is a 99%able opinion and our President is almost acknowledging that he will run for the 2024 election in amy speech he has made in his "Save America" rally's
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Reply 3 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 6/26/2022 1:01:17 PM (No. 1197562)
DeSantos is a class act and owes a lot to Trump why not go on the ticked and then we will have 12 good yrs to look forward to. The democrats are hoping for a split in the conservative base. But it is not likely at this point.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: stablemoney 6/26/2022 1:01:46 PM (No. 1197563)
I haven't seen any Trump panic, and I have not seen DeSantis enter the race, meaning this article is a flop.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: SALady 6/26/2022 1:01:58 PM (No. 1197564)
DeSantis is young. He has an incredible future in politics in this nation. And the one thing that will absolutely destroy that will be going against Donald Trump in 2024!!!!! Donald Trump got over 70,000,000 votes in 2020. A sizeable percentage of those voters hate and despise the Republican Party now because of how they stabbed President Trump in the back after the 2020 election. If DeSantis decides to primary Trump in 2024, and somehow wins, those Trump voters who hate the Republican Party will sit home and allow Lyin' Joe bidet to win another 4 years rather than vote for another backstabbing Republi-Can't. They are sick of politics, and would rather deal with the evil they know than the backstabbing evil they don't. And this doesn't just hurt DeSantis, but all the down-ballot Republican candidates running in 2024. Bottom line, DeSantis cannot win the presidency in 2024 with 30,000,000 - 40,000,000 Trump supporters sitting home on election day. DeSantis has everything to gain, and nothing to lose, by being Trump's biggest cheerleader in 2024, while staying governor of Florida and padding his conservative resume for 2028 and beyond!!!! If he does that, he will inherit the Trump voters, their support and money, and the support and very generous financial support of Trump himself.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: wakeupcall 6/26/2022 1:07:24 PM (No. 1197577)
October 25, 2020 Biden himself with a slip of his tongue, for once told the truth of the Marxist Communist democrats. Speaking to former Barack Obama staffers on Pod Save America, host Dan Pfeiffer asked Biden what his message was to people who have not yet voted. --- You need not watch the whole interview. His vote Fraud confession begins at 18:10. Joe Biden: “Well, first of all, you know, uh, what really rankles, uh, my opponent is I say that, uh, the thing that bothers him most is he’s not a patch on Barack’s jeans.” “Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together — and you’d [sic] guys, did it for our, the president Obama’s administration, before this — we have put together, I think, the most extensive and and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." Global Marxist Communist One World Government which they call by New World Order. “ You cannot make men good by law: and without good men you cannot have a good society." ---C. S. Lewis America presents an outstanding example of 'without good men leadership', particularly in politics, government, education, business, and now even the military.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: red1066 6/26/2022 1:45:46 PM (No. 1197625)
Trump didn't lose to Biteme.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 6/26/2022 1:54:20 PM (No. 1197637)
Excuse me, but what year is this? Oh yes, 2022, and the election is in 2024. Why is the media so focused on an election over two years away? Why are we interested as well?“There’s many a slip twixt the cup and the lip.”
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Another Concerned Citizen 6/26/2022 2:27:43 PM (No. 1197661)
Hey Keith Naughton, shove it.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 6/26/2022 2:31:47 PM (No. 1197666)
This topic is one that I will NOT trust "The Hill" to have any truth on. One of many.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Kate318 6/26/2022 2:46:30 PM (No. 1197674)
Keep on trucking, OP.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bad-hair 6/26/2022 2:49:12 PM (No. 1197675)
So Trump and DeSantis in the primary. Trump backs away and gets to pick (not be) the VP. Enter the (any) Dem challenger, Butt Gig ? Mattress Back ? Sure ...
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Reply 13 - Posted by: 49 Ford 6/26/2022 3:17:52 PM (No. 1197699)
I'm with posters # 2 & 4. Enough of this. DeSantis isn't going to run for president this time around, and he well knows that accepting the VP slot would be a fool's game - it would infuriate many FL voters, kill much of his support in this state and hitch his star to the fate of a man over whom he'd have no control. Ii also reject the assumption (apparently shared by many on this board) that if Trump runs he will coast to a landslide victory. He's gotten older, most voters (perhaps wrongly) do not want to rehash the past and he will not be running against Biden or any klown kar kandidate. The Dems are evil, totalitarian and ruthless but they are not stupid. If Trump runs I will support him to the hilt - greatest president of my lifetime, and he has already bequeathed to our country a Legacy of Life. But I am not at all sure that he can win in 2024.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: john56 6/26/2022 3:45:30 PM (No. 1197718)
Trump's 2024 prospects depend on his willingness/ability to run a campaign on Make America Great Again - Again and not rehash the 2020 election. Many of us believe or strongly suspect the election was stolen. We need to be vigilant that it does not happen in 2022 and 2024, but not make it the primary issue of 2024.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Birddog 6/26/2022 4:03:04 PM (No. 1197728)
"Humpty Trumpty sat on a wall...Humpty Trumpty had a great...uhm...any time now...Uh, I assure you, he IS gonna have a Fall"-All dem dam Dems
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Reply 16 - Posted by: hoopsfan 6/26/2022 4:31:20 PM (No. 1197740)
Trump is too old, too divisive, and backward looking to be a good candidate for 2024. I hope he realizes it. DeSantis would be a terrific candidate and an excellent choice for President.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: GustoGrabber 6/26/2022 4:46:17 PM (No. 1197754)
StrmCntr, MiMo, PlUPe , whatever names are being used by our long term ROve Rockefeller Romney Bush professional enthusiast and noted Trump hater seems to be fostering anti Trump sentiment. Hardly a surprise for pseudo Republican big government kleptocrats. That these voices, fans of Bushes Romney and mediocre liberal republicans now are starting their whisper campaign for DeSantis should make everyone who thinks DeSantis is pretty should step back. DeSantis will have his day if and only if he is strong enough and independent enough to preach against that globalist anti American group of elitist snobs.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Axeman 6/26/2022 4:57:06 PM (No. 1197762)
I won't take the clickbait. I don't ever need to read such ramblings. I'm too experienced(old) to be fooled by that red cape. Just gore the matador and look for the next threat.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: TLCary 6/26/2022 6:14:17 PM (No. 1197820)
All those Time covers of Trump progressively melting, before getting elected. I’ve seen this tactic before.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: kennedylaw 6/26/2022 6:19:36 PM (No. 1197830)
I will be surprised if DeSantis decides to run for President in 2024, regardless of whether Trump decides to run or not. DeSantis is only 43 and can run anytime in the next 30 years. He is doing a great job as Governor of Florida and appears to enjoy doing it. He has three young children and a wife who is recovering from cancer. Why on Earth would he want to put his family through what Trump's family has been through and force his kids to grow up in the cesspool that is DC? Maybe he will run in 2028, more likely in 2032 or 2036.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: MDConservative 6/26/2022 6:58:32 PM (No. 1197865)
Whether Trump runs or not in '24 the Trumpistas are already out shouting down any vestige of alternative discussions or considerations. (We've seen the Bushies, McCaniacs and Romneybots over the years do the same.) Opportunity generally only knocks once for a politician, and those thinking FPDT wins in a walk and carries DeSantis are as likely to be wrong as right. DeSantis is a "hot" candidate and acting like one. He has the backing of a major state. FPDT is who he is and has been. Love him, tolerate him, hate's likely to not change in the future. People look past the simple fact that the UNIPARTY spent a boatload fixing that '20 election. They'll do it again in '24, if necessary. And who knows who will be Biden's Dem successor...except that (s)he will be 100% UNIPARTY.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: bassman 6/26/2022 8:40:02 PM (No. 1197971)
I live in Florida and nothing would make me happier than for him to finish out his second term. However, there have already been a couple of stories including one by Ed Henry with some very good sources saying that DeSantis is quietly lining up some big name donors for a run in 2024. I love Trump, but DeSantis would be a lot more palatable to crossover democrats and independents. 8 years of DeSantis and then followed by Andrew Guliana and throw Kari Lake in the mix and this country will get straightened out.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: ROLFNader 6/27/2022 9:29:38 AM (No. 1198317)
Never too early for the navel-gazers to start peeping up, I guess....
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Reply 24 - Posted by: judy 6/27/2022 9:56:33 AM (No. 1198346)
The only people not trying to divide Trump & DeSantis is Trump & DeSantis
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