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Alec Baldwin may still face criminal charges
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gun in deadly set accident

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Posted By: Come And Take It, 10/27/2021 4:32:00 PM

Authorities on Wednesday refused to rule out whether Alec Baldwin could face criminal charges after he accidentally shot dead his cinematographer and injured the director on the New Mexico set of his “Rust” film last week. Nearly a week after the shooting, Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza acknowledged during a press conference that there was “some complacency” in how weapons were handled on set — and that other live rounds were potentially uncovered amid the investigation.


Not a lot new here, but some of the statements from the director who handed the gun to Baldwin raise some eyebrows. The lack of professionalism and attention to detail is stunning. I don't know one gun owner personally that would find any of this acceptable. Far less than this will get you kicked off my range. This is stunning incompetence all around.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Illinois Mom 10/27/2021 4:48:17 PM (No. 959138)
Maybe Baldwin will finally wake up and realize that it isn't the gun that can kill accidentally, it is the careless operator? He is also a producer on the film. That makes him culpable in two areas. I swear that God his making up to us for taking Rush at this crucial time. I think He just said "Rush...have fun with it." All of these spectacular failures, eye opening and outrageous statements and mandates blowing up in their faces at the same time...AND...Alec Baldwin? These things just might be what gets the country to awaken and reject these Socialists FOREVER. Who else could have orchestrated "Let's Go Brandon" craze for those of us unable to bring ourselves to chant FJB?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 10/27/2021 4:55:10 PM (No. 959144)
No fan of Baldwin, but this seems to go way beyond him. The entire movie set seemed to have a total disregard for gun safety. Why only blame Baldwin? Which movie studio was producing this movie? That might be the level that should be held accountable.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: formerNYer 10/27/2021 5:06:06 PM (No. 959155)
FTA: “I check the barrel for obstructions, most of the time there’s no live fire, [Hannah] opens the hatch and spins the drum, and I say cold gun on set,” Halls, the assistant director, told authorities of his process. ... most of the time? why should there ever be or fire live bullets on a move set??? This either complete and udder incompetence from the most woke people in the world or it was a hit.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Birddog 10/27/2021 5:24:27 PM (No. 959172)
Same gun was checked out and used for "Plinking" by cast/crew members earlier in the day....
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Reply 5 - Posted by: heartsurgeon 10/27/2021 5:37:45 PM (No. 959186)
Pretty sure if I shot someone with a gun that someone else told me was empty, I would be facing involuntary manslaughter charges. Now, given the setting, numerous others may also face charges as well, such as reckless endangerment (not following normal protocols, stating the gun was empty, using the gun and leaving live ammo in it...etc). Plenty of blame to go around shouldn't mean nobody gets blamed. In fact, since this resulted in a loss of life, everyone involved should face consequences. Personally, I don;t understand why Schumer, Pelosi, AOC, Biden etc., aren't howling for the immediate ban of use of firearms in movies and television and all of the entertainment industry. Never let a crisis go to waste.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Bison65 10/27/2021 5:37:48 PM (No. 959187)
Obviously the gun manufacturer should be sued for allowing a liberal idiot to handle a real revolver.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 10/27/2021 6:03:17 PM (No. 959205)
Occasionally, the best way to get a shot is to fire live ammo.....when shooting at an inanimate object for some reason, as part of the script. I have seen many moview where the shot and the effect of the bullet striking something is shown. Clearly many are tiny explosive charges set off to pop a hole in a wall or similar. However.....just last nightin a western, Jack Lemmon was scripted to shoot a cockroach off of the wall (a stupid and dangerous act in reality, he was in a hotel, but it was in the script). The shot close up shot showed a cockroach on wall paper, and then "boom" no cockroach, and a chunk of wall paper gone. It was clearly a live bullet used because there was the typical darkened ring on the wood backer behind the wall paper that I have seen many times on real targets struck by real bullets. Sometimes, live ammo IS USED. But obvioiusly it must be locked up and controlled on a set where blanks are used to fire towards people being filmed. Note that I said "towards", not AT. Even with blanks, shooting AT a person is rarely needed for movie, and always dangerous. Unless something pretty unusual comes up, I think the 'armorer' is toast, career-wise. Perhaps not in legal jeopardy, not enough info yet, and I'm no lawyer. Maybe she's in legal trouble, maybe not, don't know. Baldwin didn't aim off to the side, aimed AT a live person (two, actually) and that make him ultimately responsible. One firearms instructor told me, long ago, "Remember.....every bullet that you launch comes with a lawyer attached to it. Be certain where it ends up."
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Reply 8 - Posted by: bighambone 10/27/2021 6:22:23 PM (No. 959221)
Politically Santa Fe County, New Mexico is a Democrat stronghold and Alex Baldwin is a nationally well known leftist Democrat activist especially when it has come to guns. Today there are rumbles there that some Trump supporter must have covertly gained entry to the area and loaded the subject revolver with live rounds as a political attack against Baldwin. At the moment it remains to be seen if any criminal charges will be filed, but don’t be surprised, since poop rolls down hill, if in the end the sacrificial lamb in all this ends up being the 24 year old legacy hire female armorer who they say questioned her own competence to hold down the job of armorer on that movie set.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: jinx 10/27/2021 6:33:22 PM (No. 959231)
Baldwin was a co-producer on the film. He allowed live ammunition on the set and allowed the crew to practice shoot with the gun that killed someone. Why would he do that? Why would he be involved in a movie which used guns for entertainment that young people would pay to watch. Watching actors shooting people with guns is probably as stimulating to some people as pornography is to some people. Baldwin must suffer the consequences of his careless actions. He is trying to blame everyone else. Man up!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: udanja99 10/27/2021 6:47:54 PM (No. 959240)
It doesn’t matter who handled the gun, who handed to him or where the gun had been. The only thing that matters is that Baldwin pointed it at two crew members and pulled the trigger. Guilty. If he had not done that, the cinematographer would be alive and the director would not be wounded.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: nelsonted1 10/27/2021 6:59:21 PM (No. 959246)
I am a gun guy. Been one my whole life. Which has taught me how accidents, karma, mistakes and stupidity works. I am paranoid. Being paranoid brings me to few questions. Why weren't some to me basic problems not have been forseen? Why were the guns checked out to shoot and returned to inventory after target shooting? Wouldn't basic fear of karma have shrieked "Do not get movie guns mixed up with personal guns." Ammunition could be left in a gun which may be what happened. To me, they should have said bring your own guns and do what you will on your time off but no ammo or personal guns of any kind comes near the set. "Checking out guns" reaks of liability. Spinning the cylinder is referenced several times. Wouldn't a sane person or persons pull the trigger on every cylinder all the way around to make sure? Pull the hammer back, snap, snap..... I wouldn't pick up a gun, ever, without the menacing thought of the thing going off and check every cylinder. Not spinning it. Rotating it. While looking through the cylinder. On a movie set opening the loading gate and looking down the barrel. If I were there I'd demand a zip tie be run through the cylinder so it couldn't be rotated. And why did the bonehead point the gun toward anyone? That is the base question in all this. You can say paranoia is taken too far but if one asks to look at a weapon in a gun store they are always checked first. Every time so it becomes a habit like breathing. I've been to several gun shows where guns have gone off. If you want to hear deafening silence it is after an accidental discharge at a gun show. Unbeleivably stupid things happen when people are involved. One has to head it off before it happens. Ted
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Reply 12 - Posted by: GirlwithaCurl 10/27/2021 7:23:02 PM (No. 959261)
Alec Baldwin "may"...? Really?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Knotwyrkin 10/27/2021 8:02:42 PM (No. 959281)
"Lets Go Baldwin"
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Reply 14 - Posted by: padiva 10/27/2021 8:17:07 PM (No. 959285)
Do you think this movie will be a box office dud or fire away on all cylinders?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: downnout 10/27/2021 8:28:54 PM (No. 959293)
I like your thinking, #1.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: MickTurn 10/27/2021 9:02:38 PM (No. 959308)
Alec Baldy needs to go to Prison...Just because he's a total Leftist Jerk! The fact that he killed a woman means he should receive the same fate!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: SkeezerMcGee 10/27/2021 9:45:39 PM (No. 959331)
The Article includes: “David [Halls] advised when [Armorer] Hannah showed him the firearm before continuing rehearsal, he could only remember seeing three rounds. He advised he should have checked all of them, but didn’t, and couldn’t recall if she spun the drum,” detectives wrote in the affidavit." Halls saw there were three rounds in the pistol. He admitted he should have checked all three as he did not see whether Hannah had properly checked all of the rounds. Halls announced that the pistol was "cold" and handed the pistol to Baldwin for Baldwin's use. Under New Mexico law all three (Halls, Hannah and Baldwan) can be charged with involuntary manslaughter, a fourth degree felony. Maximum of 18 months in prison and $5,000 fine. Halls admitted his failure. Hannah had the duty to inspect the pistol to ensure its safety but did not do so. Baldwin did not discover the live round, but pointed the pistol at Hutchins, pulled the trigger and killed her. Baldwin's relying on Halls' announcing to Baldwin that the pistol was "cold" is not going to be a valid defense.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 10/27/2021 10:06:08 PM (No. 959338)
That's not a vintage gun either. It's relatively recent.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: thatsomewhereplace 10/27/2021 10:59:54 PM (No. 959367)
Somebody" said that the movie set should have had an NRA member taking care of the fire arm(s). Never would have happened. Ya think Baldwin et al would have allowed a NRA member on the set? Kind of, I say kind of funny.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: JL80863 10/28/2021 12:47:33 AM (No. 959379)
"May still" face criminal charges? Wow, the executive producer is actually responsible for something? Law Enforcement is just getting started.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 10/28/2021 1:59:48 AM (No. 959396)
#18, the gun was MADE recently, but is a clone of a design from 1873, the Colt Single Action Army, so it has all the good and bad things of guns of that era, just more modern steels. Other than that, the same exact thing, perhaps some minor cosmetic differences. The point of this class of guns is to exactly duplicate old, valuable, antique guns so that you can 'relive' the experience of shooting the originals for an affordable price.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 10/28/2021 3:59:02 AM (No. 959414)
The Sherriff stated that 500 rounds of 45 Long Colt, a both blank rounds and hot rounds, were found mixed together. He stated that both live rounds and blank rounds were shot together the night before. He says he doesn't know if there was negligence on the set. BTW a Pietta 45 Colt revolver doesn't misfire by itself. It requires 2 actions to fire, cocking the hammer and pulling the trigger. The revolver. The Sherriff is shoveling BS.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: mifla 10/28/2021 4:53:19 AM (No. 959433)
If the deceased was a member of my family, I would have the lawyers lined up regardless of any criminal charges.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 10/28/2021 7:38:00 AM (No. 959505)
Now we know. The firearm is a single action revolver. This adds one more step to fire. Baldwin had to c—k the hammer before he pulled the trigger. This eliminates any possibility that he accidentally pulled the trigger. This gun has to be manually c—ked for each round fired! The shot was intentional. By the way apparently the word c—-k was taken out of context by the word police on Lucianne. There is several different meanings for this word. Too lazy to get it right. I had to add the dashes after getting spanked.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: RayLRiv 10/28/2021 1:19:32 PM (No. 959854)
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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