Maybe Trump And Musk Are Playing 5D Chess?
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Posted By: RockyTCB,
6/6/2025 9:10:58 AM
Whenever President Donald Trump does something that confounds his biggest supporters, the common response is: “Well, Trump is playing 4D chess.”
Some posited that this is what was going on after Trump’s initial response to Elon Musk’s bashing of the “Big, Beautiful Bill.” [snip]
This isn’t 4D chess – not that we have any idea what 4D chess means.
But maybe it’s 5D chess – the kind of chess that can warp reality in such a way as to make liberals’ heads explode.
Hear us out. The left hates Trump and Musk about equally. When they were working together, the hatred toward them was turbocharged.
But what happens when Trump starts bashing Musk
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Newtsche 6/6/2025 9:28:00 AM (No. 1960716)
They're not.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
tootall 6/6/2025 9:46:13 AM (No. 1960724)
Ya think? Has anyone here ever seen how Trump operates? Do some homework!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 6/6/2025 9:56:35 AM (No. 1960730)
Trump and Musk have discovered the powers controlling Washington are much harder to beat than they realized. What do they do? They blame each other when they should be regrouping. I'm sure Trump and Musk are always accustomed to having everything their way, but they are likely dealing with a crowd that is more powerful than they are. Didn't they see that coming? This crowd has had their hooks in Washington probably going back over a century. They know how to suck the air out of a room, so the only people left standing are their people. They control elections and can steal them if they have to. Trump and Musk have a huge hill to climb and Washington controls all the routes up the hill.
Maybe, just maybe, Trump and Musk should stick together. Musk should not be walking away at this point. He has too much to lose. Same goes for Trump, btw.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 6/6/2025 10:06:00 AM (No. 1960732)
I was thinking it was all part of the Deal. Musk needs to get back in the good graces of the left to sell his cars and Trump needs to get the wasteful spending out of the BBB. We will see.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
chillijilli 6/6/2025 10:18:02 AM (No. 1960740)
FTA: The left hates Trump and Musk about equally.
I'd like to see the statistics that corroborate that claim and especially any data about the LENGTH of the respective hatreds. The left has despised Trump FOREVER. They hate Musk BECAUSE he joined forces with Trump. BEFORE that; Musk was a hero.
The ones playing fast and loose with data seem to be the I&I Editorial Board. How can I believe their idea about 5D chess if I can't believe the data they use for their premise?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
valinva 6/6/2025 11:20:21 AM (No. 1960755)
If Trump was a normal well adjusted person, he would have said that he was grateful for Musk's help in getting elected and identifying government waste and fraud. He would have said that he disagreed with Musk on this matter and left it at that. Trump can't work that way. He has to viciously attack anyone who speaks against him. That is not what normal well adjusted people do. I voted for Trump twice because the alternative was awful. I am not a fan of his immaturity in relationships. He thinks because Putin and Kim Jung Un talked to him nicely they were now friends. Trump doesn't seem to understand that there are evil people in the world and they will be nice to you one minute and stab you in the back the next if it will get them what they want. The world is not a business negotiation.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Golden Goose 6/6/2025 11:33:46 AM (No. 1960760)
The only thing that makes the Star Trek scene less-than-perfect is that lefties think with their feelings, not logic.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Italiano 6/6/2025 11:52:42 AM (No. 1960766)
It would be nice to think so. I have my serious doubts, but we'll see.
At least Trump is no George W. Bush. I remember during the W years we'd see all these naive delusional posts to the effect that W was "playing 3D chess" with the Democrats. As it turned out, that idiot didn't even know how to set up the checkerboard.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
snakeoil 6/6/2025 12:30:27 PM (No. 1960776)
I don't have any idea what's going on. Maybe Elon thinks the leftwing mobs will cut him some slack if he trashes President Trump. Elon is smart but dims never forgive or forget. For me presidential elections boil down to a choice between 2 candidate. President Trump gets things done such as sealing the border. Giggles has no significant accomplishments in a vertical position.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
stablemoney 6/6/2025 12:34:10 PM (No. 1960779)
Trump is very transparent, speaking in public to get the record straight, knowing the Deep State are listening, and would release it to the media anyway. But the Deep State, after 100 days, realizing their leak sabotage is no longer working, have moved on to using questions, seemingly innocuous, with the media, and to spinning Trump's answers by projecting his intentions, motives, or thoughts, and in a negative way. I listen to Trump directly, and find what Trump said and what the media reports are a lot different. Musk should be more careful with his reactions, as the media is jerking his chain.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 6/6/2025 12:49:14 PM (No. 1960784)
Good cop, bad cop? Gee whiz, I have no idea at this point. But they are both 'out of the box' sort of guys, so who knows?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Mike22 6/6/2025 1:30:55 PM (No. 1960805)
I cannot tell what is happening by what is published in the press. They could turn giving a flower to a little girl into a hideous act on pedophilia with their selective quotes and leading questions.
Trump wants the bill passed for the structural changes even though he knows is contains far too much spending. Musk has seen the process and knows that much of the spending is totally wasted. Trump needs the rhino's to vote for the bill to get the changes he wants. Then he can go after the spending in the appropriation process. Or simply abolish the agencies spending the money. Or simply rif the staff. Musk wants the cuts now and perhaps thinks that congress with cave is Trump is tough enough. Or he may be positioning himself to attack spending from the outside while Trump comes up with "reasonable"
compromises. Or it could be just a couple of smart headstrong outspoken guys getting in a fight. Who knows. I just know it is probably not as the press positions it.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
anniebc 6/6/2025 3:30:30 PM (No. 1960842)
This theory would mean they're playing all of US.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
rbruce20 6/6/2025 11:56:52 PM (No. 1960970)
This conflict is all planned to allow Mr. Musk to re-enter the corporate world without leftist boycotting his businesses. Pres. Trump piloting a Concorde compared to the Ford Trimotor the Press is flying.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
ldb51 6/7/2025 1:05:47 AM (No. 1960972)
I'll take "Briar Patch Tricks" for 500, Alex.
I tend to think #14 is closest on this. On their worst days, Trump and Musk are both 4x brighter than the press snails. Why not give them a bit of fluff to chase for a few days, while further cementing Trump's hold on his Congressional support?
At the same time, Musk has to be concerned a bit about stockholders getting up in arms for losing money during these emotional Tesla stock swings. If he doesn't respond "forcefully" to Trump's actions against EV mandates and Gubbermint rebates to thick-wallet Tesla buyers, his board or some disgruntled schoolteacher stockholder may just go after his CEO position for being too cozy with Trump instead of the fiscal interests of the stockholders. Everyone knows that Trump is a mystical blend of thick-skinned and hypersensitive, vengeful and forgiving, according to what works in the moment... so all of the bluster and namecalling works for him credibly.
I'm watching for a radical swing in the relationship, say, right after the final vote on the BBB.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
5 handicap 6/7/2025 6:21:11 AM (No. 1961003)
I & I Editorial Board, Credibility... Nah, I think Not!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
homefry 6/7/2025 7:23:59 AM (No. 1961029)
I guess its possible, but I would rather they not play so hard if they're playing.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
franq 6/7/2025 8:35:04 AM (No. 1961051)
Who knows? Who cares? I gave up trying to figure out all the melodrama years ago.
Proverbs 3:5-6
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
judy 6/7/2025 6:27:02 PM (No. 1961261)
One is not acting presidential .the other appears to be confused??? What a mess! A complete embarrassment!!!
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