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Ron DeSantis Effectively Ends His Race
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by Donald Trump about 2020 Election Being
Stolen Were “Unsubstantiated” –
Here’s a List of Illegal-Illicit Acts
of Fraud and Cheating in 2020 Election

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Posted By: FlyRight, 8/5/2023 6:52:31 AM

According to a FOX News poll in December 2021, 78% of Republicans believed the 2020 election was stolen. At least 70% of Republican voters still believe Joe Biden’s win was illegitimate, according to a recent poll this week by far-left CNN. In January 2022, only 17% of Republicans and right-leaning independent voters said they would vote for a candidate that believes Joe Biden won the 2020 election. On Friday, Governor Ron DeSantis said that the theories by President Trump about the 2020 election being stolen were “unsubstantiated.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: privateer 8/5/2023 7:16:53 AM (No. 1527706)
An unsubstantiated theory is called a hypothesis. It doesn't become a theory until it is proven (substantiated). The theft of the 2020 election is more like the Law Of Gravity; i.e. proven when ever adequately tested.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DW626 8/5/2023 7:24:43 AM (No. 1527707)
Well…he did do a good thing fighting, and exposing Disney. Other than that, why he said this is puzzling to say the least. Who’s advising him? And why is he taking it?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: homefry 8/5/2023 7:31:53 AM (No. 1527711)
It depends on who you look to for proof. The doj and the fbi are obviously covering for the bidens, as are the vast majority of the msm. That leaves only people like Tucker, or possibly Shaun Hannity, and a few others who are equally villified by the people who get 95% of the airtime at newsville.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Strike3 8/5/2023 7:44:29 AM (No. 1527718)
Right out of his official Bush playbook. If you didn't know that the 2020 election was stolen by the democrats, their subsequent behavior and violent denials logically tell you that it was. They were willing to defy the Constitution and commit treason to convince us that Joe earned 81 million votes.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 8/5/2023 8:02:41 AM (No. 1527732)
DeSanctimonious penced himself into the dustbin of Republican primaries. You cant trust RDS. He's a Deep Stater in disquise.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: commonsence 8/5/2023 8:07:25 AM (No. 1527736)
I'm looking forward to the anti-trumpers replies, DeSantis isn't deep state and really didn't say that anyway.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Strike3 8/5/2023 8:10:28 AM (No. 1527741)
The cheaters fought so hard to keep investigators out of Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania that you would swear they were being invaded by ballot-eating termites. Pennsylvania was solid red on election night and the person who cheated in Arizona had control over the investigation. No wonder they were terrified of a simple audit.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: tisHimself 8/5/2023 8:17:27 AM (No. 1527743)
Karl Rove commissioned focus groups finally came back showing nonelitist voters still think 2020 election was a coup, and fear anyone in government , including DeSAntis, who didn’t step up and show outrage. But the swamp remains hopeful that courts will tie up Trump and prevent his rally’s , I think Romney and or Ryan is warming up in the bullpen ready to step in.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bpl40 8/5/2023 8:17:36 AM (No. 1527744)
I believe I posted here months ago. DeSantis has good Conservative qualities but he owes too much to the Bushes and Wall Street globalists. That will be the end of him.In spite of all talk of slitting throats, his newly exposed inarticulateness and poor ability to communicate has put paid on the entire matter.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rumblehog 8/5/2023 8:23:18 AM (No. 1527749)
You know you're "flying over the target" when the D-enemy demands Republicans stop talking about it, and the Feds force their socialist-media companies censor any communications to that effect.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: chance_232 8/5/2023 8:52:54 AM (No. 1527778)
I would like to see the full comments, beginning to end without the NY Times cutting it up and inserting commentary. I will say this. He didn't say that the theories were wrong. He said that the theories didn't "prove" to be correct. If he's speaking like a lawyer, he is correct. None of the allegations of fraud etc were ever proven in court. The theories never made it to a trial. DeSantis did go on to say that there were irregularities. If DeSantis believes that Biden won fair and square, that would be very unfortunate. I'm pretty much sure that the election was stolen. If it wasn't stolen, it wasn't for lack of trying. But knowing something to be true is not the same as being able to prove it.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: janjan 8/5/2023 8:56:33 AM (No. 1527780)
The possibility still exists that the corrupt DOJ will manage to stop Trump from holding office. At least that is their plan.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Krause 8/5/2023 9:14:45 AM (No. 1527786)
Wow. His RINO advisors have him definitely under their wing!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: pensom2 8/5/2023 9:18:23 AM (No. 1527791)
At this rate, I doubt DeSantis can win, unless the Department of Obstruction of Justice succeeds in crushing President Trump. I also doubt DeSantis actually believes the election fraud we witnessed in 2020 never occurred. This statement by DeSantis is similar to President Trump's "admission" that he was wrong about Obama's having been born outside the United States. Trump still believes (as do I) that Obama's birth certificate was a counterfeit and a fraud; it just became unpolitical to continue waging that battle.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Gordon Mills 8/5/2023 9:21:45 AM (No. 1527796)
F RdS
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Reply 16 - Posted by: red1066 8/5/2023 9:26:15 AM (No. 1527803)
No substantiated evidence of fraud in the 2020 election? That statement alone tells me DeSantis is or would have been an inside the beltway swamp creature if ever elected to a federal position.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: singermom9 8/5/2023 9:31:18 AM (No. 1527810)
Show the video of a Capitol PO who LIED abt being hurt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhXV7rbpMhY Watch the beginning of him crying abt his great injuries and then go to abt 3:33 and watch him inside the Capitol walking around just fine. Says he couldn't work for over a year. And the dem ELECTION DENIERS (12 min) denying Trump legitimacy as Pres. ALSO, Clinton DENIED Trumps legitimacy AND ACTED ON IT by starting the Russia Hoax. (That must be worth 568 years in jail). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2Ejqjz6TA&t=7s
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Reply 18 - Posted by: felixcat 8/5/2023 9:35:24 AM (No. 1527817)
Typical weasel words from an attorney. Okay Ron - were any of these theories ever investigated by the state or federal level? No, so they have been neither proven or disproven and that is why so many people rightly believe the shenanigans of the Nov 2020 election cost Trump the election. And such arrogance to think the Left wouldn't try and do the same thing to him if he got the nomination.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Zigrid 8/5/2023 10:26:41 AM (No. 1527867)
Sanctimonious is some kinda fool...his rino advisors are so consumed with hatred for President Trump...they are leading sanctimonious into the bitterness trap...President Trump is the man of the people...and if sanctimonious ever thinks he can run for public office again...he's just committed...Hari Kari....
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Lawsy0 8/5/2023 10:31:37 AM (No. 1527873)
If DeSantis is really stepping back, then he only had the Want To. Wait until he gets the ''fire in his belly" then look out. If he and DJT can put down their game of Spite and Malice, it'll be better for all of us. No one has shown Love of Country like Trump.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: stablemoney 8/5/2023 10:33:05 AM (No. 1527875)
DeSantis is just the latest attempt by the GOPe to get rid of Trump, at any cost. The GOPe don't get that Trump represents most of the Republican Party voters, as clearly shown by all polling.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: 49 Ford 8/5/2023 10:34:17 AM (No. 1527876)
DeSantis is a straight-ahead conservative who understands that harping about the 2020 election is a losing proposition in next year's contest. If passions prevail then we will surely lose the 2024 election - and the country - next year.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 8/5/2023 10:51:25 AM (No. 1527883)
I've posted many times - - how sadly disappointed I am with De Santis. His ego is monstrously outsized - - just like any overly ambitious pol. He puts himself above the country - - and our desperate quest to preserve our beautiful nation. A decent, respectful, non-egomaniac would have enthusiastically endorsed President Trump - - and planned a 2028 campaign - - at which time he would still have been under fifty years old. But the De Santis ego is one which cannot be satiated - - which cannot be respectful and patient - - which cannot put country above self. De Santis is dead politically - - as far as I'm concerned. I will never support him again.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: FormerDem 8/5/2023 10:54:26 AM (No. 1527886)
The deplorables seem to know what distinguishes a hypothesis from a theory. Too bad the elites, such as Whoopi and Sunny and David Brooks, are still unclear.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Ruhn 8/5/2023 11:01:29 AM (No. 1527895)
That's because one of his donors, Robert Bigelow, (in the range of $20 million for his campaign thus far) told Ron to take more moderate positions...or no more money.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 8/5/2023 11:03:00 AM (No. 1527896)
Scorched earth will not win the election. Rehashing the 2020 election will not win the 2024 election. Seriously, the energy going into both efforts would be better invested elsewhere. Depending on who you ask, Biden received 70 to 81 million votes in the 2020 election. That is a far bigger problem than voter fraud and nothing has been done about it. What has been done to negate all the media propaganda? What has been done to convince the people that vote for the biggest handouts from a country that is 100 trillion in debt? What has been done about all the people voting for dictatorial government to 'save the planet'? What is being done about all the people voting for preferential treatment? What is being done about a cabal that will kill and destroy to stay in power? You already know the answer to all those questions. The answer is nothing. Instead, we waste time destroying each other and fighting an election that was 'settled' in 2020. In 2024, we will end up with Biden or another figurehead (they might even be a Republican!) and frankly, it might be for the best. People aren't on the same page and there is no way anything changes until that changes.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: DVC 8/5/2023 11:24:01 AM (No. 1527931)
He should have stayed home - like all the illegals.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Muguy 8/5/2023 11:28:27 AM (No. 1527939)
Let's keep our heads squarely on our shoulders! It is NOT INEVITABLE that President Trump will be the Republican nominee on the 2024 ballot-- No matter how many names Governor DeSantis is called, he is the best current candidate left if the demonrat socialist Marxists succeed in their spurrious multiple lawfare efforts in the federal court system to take down our former President. What cannot be tolerated however, is IF his allegiance is to the rich and corrupt RINOcrat Bendict Turtle wing of the party which screws over the base, he makes himself UNELECTABLE...... Determining one's fidelity to the party by IGNORING the FRAUD of the 2020 election, cannot be the ONLY standard-- A mere 40,000 votes scattered over a few states made all the difference needed to pull off the steal. States have been beefing up their standards of verification to prevent this from happening again, and there is no way to unpop the popcorn at this point.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: NotaBene 8/5/2023 11:34:42 AM (No. 1527943)
Loyalty is important. I am going with Trump.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 8/5/2023 11:44:24 AM (No. 1527950)
This sounds like Karl Rove, the sneak, and the Murdocks/Fox News Board. Goodbye DeSantis, hope you get your act together for 2028.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: LadyHen 8/5/2023 12:24:32 PM (No. 1527989)
Good grief. Do these people have ANYONE with 2 brain cells to rub together advising them? Why are any other GOP candidates talking about President Trump? What is there to gain for these fools?? All news, all talk about President Trump benefits President Trump... just like the saying "there is no such thing as bad publicity." If he has survived the slings and arrows of the Dems, Hollywood, Media, the DOJ, the FBI, and the rest of the world do you really think for one moment whatever dribbles out of your mouth is going to matter to ANYONE but your biggest bestest fanbois?? All these morons have to say to whatever flighty reporterette trying to trap them is "I am not talking about President Trump and what is going on in his life and campaign. I am here to talk about America in peril and what my administration will do to bring relief for the average American." And that is that.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: smokincol 8/5/2023 1:01:10 PM (No. 1528011)
DeSantis will never, never, ever convince the faithful supporters of our President that the 2020 election wasn't stolen and by his using a word such as “Unsubstantiated” only cements the theory that he is being led by the never Trump-ers and the RINO's
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Reply 33 - Posted by: ronniethek 8/5/2023 1:10:41 PM (No. 1528025)
These valid issues which document a pattern of fraud an illegality were never permitted to have a substantive investigation and a FAIR HEARING in court. Fraud claims were dismissed without ever being investigated on the basis of legal standing and statute of limitations. As a former professional Auditor of Financial statements I can tell you that the totality of issues presented are sufficient to have warranted a much wider investigation. Unfortunately for the country the Dems were able to run out the clock. For De Santis to say that the claims of fraud are UNSUBSTANTIATED without also acknowledging that there were not fairly investigated is totally disingenuous. I voted for the Governor and contributed to him but I am done supporting him-he is UNWORTHY. I would have expected that kind of comment from the anal spot Romney but not the governor. Very sad.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: rocket-j-squirrel 8/5/2023 2:19:48 PM (No. 1528067)
The scariest thing about a billíonaire trying to buy government influence is another billionaire who has the audacity to trust the people to influence government.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: earlybird 8/5/2023 2:24:17 PM (No. 1528071)
I am astonished that anyone here does not know who is advising DeSantis. The list has been published in articles by Sundance and others/ At the top of any list, according to his campaiign people, is Jill Casey.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: earlybird 8/5/2023 2:26:06 PM (No. 1528074)
Re #20, he is said to have no “fire in the belly”. Just follows orders.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Strike3 8/5/2023 3:01:20 PM (No. 1528096)
If the democrats did not conduct massive cheating in 2020 then they would welcome audits and investigations to keep their "good name" cleared in every one of those six states in question. Instead, they hired high priced lawyers and closed their own path to innocence. The United States would not exist if our forefathers had kept their mouths shut and dutifully paid their taxes to the King of England. Challenging 2020 is our right and our duty. If they get away with it, 2024 is guaranteed to the deep state.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: earlybird 8/5/2023 3:24:54 PM (No. 1528106)
Re #11, Aug 4 (NYT) – Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida said that claims about the 2020 election being stolen were false, directly contradicting a central argument of former President Donald J. Trump and his supporters. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/08/04/megadonor-tells-desantis-to-get-moderate-or-else-within-hours-desantis-dismisses-2020-stolen-election-theories-as-false/#more-249576
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Reply 39 - Posted by: mean Gene 8/5/2023 6:17:23 PM (No. 1528200)
Ron is a uniparty, establishment opportunist. There we go again! "Trump is bad and makes mean tweets!" But Trump is the only candidate in my 70 years to articulate and fight for the issues I believe in. I understand Desanctis needs to "get tough" and go after Trump since the polls are killing him. Reminds me when Little Marco got into the little hands debate. That was the humiliating end to his campaign. Likewise here.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 8/5/2023 7:07:49 PM (No. 1528233)
First the good news - The left, dims, deep state, rinos, msm, globalists, and especially the chicoms are positioning DeSantis to take the fall to ensure Trump wins the republican nomination next summer. Now the bad news - The left, dims, deep state, rinos, msm, globalists, and especially the chicoms will then destroy Trump and rig the presidential election next year in the fall to ensure a dim president. But if by the Grace of God Trump should win, the cast of characters above will burn the country down - figuratively, politically, and violently. Obie and the left are playing for keeps. And God, our Heavenly Father, will be shown the door. Belief in God will be replaced by obeyance to the State. A secular one-party communist system is in our future. Unless we the people wake up and stop this.
4 people like this.

Reply 41 - Posted by: DanvilleBill 8/5/2023 7:13:55 PM (No. 1528234)
I read somewhere that DeSantis is only supported by the crazy far-right fringe of the Republican Party.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 8/5/2023 10:22:06 PM (No. 1528321)
RDS caved on this because he isn't getting his campaign cash from the grassroots but the NeverTrump donors who are controlling him. There is plenty of proof out there, but the RINO Uniparty refuses to take their heads out of their nether regions to see it.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: mifla 8/6/2023 5:24:44 AM (No. 1528483)
His big money donors said jump, and he said how high. Bought and paid for.
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Posted by Hazymac 8/6/2023 3:15:10 PM Post Reply
t’s NFL training camp season again, and that means it’s time for us to hear yet again about how far-left race hustler and former quarterback Colin Kaepernick, despite having derided the NFL for years as a racist enterprise that treats its employees like slaves, is trying to get back into the league yet again. If you’re tired of Kaepernick’s cynical act, you’re not nearly as tired of it as is Terence Garvin, a former NFL linebacker who had a few choice words for the attention-seeking apparatchik this time around. Fox News reported Monday that Kaepernick has posted a new video touting his viability as an NFL quarterback, despite being 35
The NYT Asked People to Compare Biden
to an Animal, And the Results Were Brutally Honest
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Posted by Imright 8/6/2023 9:32:55 PM Post Reply
The New York Times asked readers what type of animal President Joe Biden would be, and the answers are brutally honest. The results weren’t pretty, given the people answering the question didn’t hold back their honest thoughts on the 80-year-old president. Dinosaur, hippopotamus, and a sloth were just a few of the answers given when describing the president who forgets where he is more than he remembers— and Democrats expressed these about Biden. “A camel. The way he talks, I see the camel’s mouth moving,” said Donnia, an independent from Illinois. “A meerkat,” said Milan, a New Hampshire Independent noted.
Biden WH Threatens Reporters With Expulsion
If They Continue to Interrupt Press Briefings
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Posted by Imright 8/6/2023 2:13:02 PM Post Reply
The White House is taking heat for purging more than 400 reporters from presidential press briefings following a new rule aimed at journalists. According to reports, 442 reporters have lost their "hard pass" press pass credentials over the past three months, resulting in a 31 percent reduction of journalists in the press briefing room. The White House told Politico that only one reporter had their application for a new hard pass denied. However, hundreds of reporters lost their passes due to needing to meet the latest qualifications.
Kentucky voters weigh in on McConnell’s
health scare
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Posted by FlyRight 8/6/2023 7:02:40 AM Post Reply
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell spoke Saturday at the Fancy Farm picnic, one of Kentucky’s classic political events, but his remarks were largely drowned out by jeers from the Democratic side of the crowd, who stomped their feet and yelled, “RETIRE,” and “DITCH MITCH” as he spoke. McConnell’s appearance at the picnic comes amid recent questions about his health and political future. Late last month, he froze mid-sentence during a press conference in the US Capitol and had to be led away from the podium by his fellow senators and his aides. The Republican leader, 81, later returned and answered questions from the press, telling CNN’s Manu Raju, “I’m fine.”
The Machinery of Government is Coated
with Gunk
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Posted by Mercedes44 8/6/2023 6:56:34 AM Post Reply
The juxtaposition of the Department of Justice’s handling of Hunter Biden with its outrageous treatment of Donald J. Trump justifies Scott Adams's view: "We can now see all of the machinery of government, from influence peddling to fake news to intel-supported hoaxes to political persecutions.” Diving even deeper, as have Jonathan Turley, James Freeman, Dan Bongino, and David Samuels, it’s beginning to look as if Barack Obama knew of Hunter’s corruption and the danger it posed to national security and did nothing about it. In exchange, he’s serving a third term as president behind the scrim while the demented present officeholder serves as a front.
She Who Must Not Be Named: Seattle Museum
Scrubs Author JK Rowling From Harry Potter Display
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Posted by rememberwhen 8/6/2023 3:23:36 PM Post Reply
Seattle’s Museum of Pop Culture is apparently triggered by free speech. The museum has removed all references to novelist J.K. Rowling in a Harry Potter display, calling the author “transphobic” for believing biological sex is real. To date, more than 500 million copies of the Potter series have been sold worldwide but yes, let’s pretend the author does not exist.
Donald Trump Calls Nancy Pelosi a ‘Wicked
Witch’ Destined for Hell
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Posted by Beardo 8/6/2023 12:21:35 PM Post Reply
Former President Donald Trump has turned on Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and declared she is a “wicked witch” who is destined one day to “live in hell.” Trump used his social media network Truth Social to attack Pelosi, commenting after she used an interview Friday on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports” to say he looked like a “scared puppy” arriving in Washington, DC, to be arraigned in the January 6 Capital riot case, as Breitbart News reported.
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