Did reefer drive the Highland Park parade
‘killer’ Robert Crimo to madness?
New York Post,
by
Miranda Devine
Original Article
Posted By: AltaD,
7/7/2022 8:57:13 AM
You don’t need to be a psychiatrist to know that the Highland Park shooter is sick in the head.
His evil act is unfathomable, but he does fit a familiar pattern of mass killers: alienated young male stoners who appear to be in the grip of a distinctively American madness. (Snip) THC, the active ingredient in cannabis, 20 years ago was at about 4% potency, but today’s Big Weed products are close to 100%.
We have known for at least 15 years that cannabis use can increase the risk of psychosis in susceptible people by about 40%, according to the medical journal Lancet.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
wilarrbie 7/7/2022 9:20:34 AM (No. 1208797)
Oh, please. Like the other ones, this twisted puke has a lot more going on than weed.
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FTA: "The one thing we should not have done was make it easier for young people to access such a potentially harmful drug."
High potency MJ is as easy to buy on the streets as a gun. If gun control won't work, the lesson must be taken from our national, decades-long "War on Drugs", which has been an abject failure that has led to lost civil liberties. And that leads to the current state of the border...150,000 capsules of murderous fentanyl...and the holders are out on insignificant bail. Tell me again how serious drug use is taken in this country. Clean needles, anyone?
Red flag laws are simply open to gross abuse by ex-spouses, jilted lovers, and political "activists" to pester the victims. That's not to mention the mischief government can easily convey. But, then, many are always ready to surrender their freedoms for "security."
Let's be smart about this.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 7/7/2022 9:28:17 AM (No. 1208805)
More than likely it was the SSRI drugs that did it.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
navybrat 7/7/2022 9:29:40 AM (No. 1208808)
I have read and heard it discussed on radio news that the father signed and sponsored the purchases of firearms by the son. If true, the father knew the mental condition of the son and should be held to a degree of responsibility for the massacre. Son spent some time in a mental hospital and there were instances of home violence against his family. Police visits to the home took place in the past. While you cannot control many things an adult child does, this was something where the father could have applied some common sense and not enabled him. if the father had acted differently this might not have happened. I think some charges should be brought against the enabling parent.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
udanja99 7/7/2022 10:05:15 AM (No. 1208852)
Amen, #4. I stated the same thing here yesterday. How does a father look at his freakazoid son and decide that helping him to buy a couple of guns is a good idea?
As to the son - I think he would have been off the rails even without the drugs. Honestly, he looks like the result of a few generations of in-breeding. I’ve been to a couple of very rural areas of Appalachia and have seen people who look like that. Their brains are missing something.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 7/7/2022 10:12:39 AM (No. 1208861)
I love Miranda Devine - - I adore her - - but - - this is utter nonsense.
Schizophrenia is a horrible brain disease - - which is carried in human genes. It erupts suddenly - - mostly in young men aged 16 to 25. Current medical science has no way to detect it - - no way to prevent it - - and no way to cure it.
Schizophrenia can be somewhat controlled by drugs - - but that requires full cooperation of the patient - - and constant attention from care givers. When neither is present - - the sick person obeys the voices in his head - - and does awful things.
Nothing "causes" schizophrenia. It happens naturally to people who have human genes.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
earlybird 7/7/2022 10:48:44 AM (No. 1208916)
While everyone is playing amateur psychiatrist, Miranda Devine comes up with an article that pulls this guy’s history together. Some who are users will protest, but there is little likelihood that they are young people with still-developing brains. Adults have to decide which is their priority: their recreational feel-good or the mental health of our kids.
FTA:
The New York Times last month warned of the high potency of cannabis products in the newly deregulated legal market and the potentially harmful effects to young brains: “Psychosis, Addiction, Chronic Vomiting: As Weed Becomes More Potent, Teens Are Getting Sick.”
THC, the active ingredient in cannabis, 20 years ago was at about 4% potency, but today’s Big Weed products are close to 100%.
We have known for at least 15 years that cannabis use can increase the risk of psychosis in susceptible people by about 40%, according to the medical journal Lancet.
A study last year of 204,000 people ages 10 to 24 in the Journal of the American Medical Association’s pediatrics publication found that cannabis use and abuse is associated with depression, bipolar disorder and increased risk of suicide.
Ages 10 to 24.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 7/7/2022 10:50:23 AM (No. 1208921)
The interesting item for me, when they've discussed his parents called the police to report he was going to "kill everyone", and they took his 16 knives and a sword from him.
It's been stated the police did not intervene, but social workers were assigned to the case, which is what many on the Left wanted as part of the de-fund the police campaign from 2 years ago.
It likely also meant this incident was not part of the background check since it was not part of a police report, since social workers handled the matter instead.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
earlybird 7/7/2022 10:50:23 AM (No. 1208922)
About the father’s signing for Crimo’s FOID, that was when he was still a minor. When he turned 21 he got his own FOID without a co-signer.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
DVC 7/7/2022 10:55:28 AM (No. 1208929)
He wouldn't be the first person to have serious mental problems from too much THC to the brain. Some seem to handle it OK, others....it seems to literally wreak havoc on their developing brains.
Marijuana is not anything remotely like "safe", regardless how many times the users and sellers retell that story.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
danu 7/7/2022 11:00:27 AM (No. 1208941)
thank you, #7--i was pondering that very idea--and pondering the sources that could easily provide such
high grade garbage to this obviously mentally-compromised dweeb, and useful idiot, as well?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
earlybird 7/7/2022 11:58:09 AM (No. 1209027)
Following a wide survey of available data (detailed at the link below), the following conclusion:
From the current data, we can conclude that the tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) component of cannabis can be the main culprit causing psychosis and schizophrenia in the at-risk population. THC can also be the one exacerbating symptoms and causing an adverse prognosis in already diagnosed patients.
From: “The Association Between Cannabis Use and Schizophrenia: Causative or Curative? A Systematic Review”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32839678/
Schizophrenia may run in families, but even a parent with the disorder may not cause the child to have it. It may cause the child to be categorized as “at risk” and drugs like THC (cannabis) then pushes them over the edge. Interestingly enough parental neglect is mentioned as a factor in the person’s descent into schizophrenia.
A small deletion in a region of chromosome 22 called 22q11 seems to contribute to a small percentage of cases; these patients may also have problems with their heart and immune system and cleft palate.
What are the symptoms of schizophrenia? Some people hear voices, or they may hallucinate visions, smells, or tactile sensations. They may also hold delusions. A person with schizophrenia might believe he is Jesus or that he’s being controlled by aliens.
Substance abuse, suicidal thoughts, and attempts of suicide are more common in this group than the general public.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/open-gently/201806/is-schizophrenia-hereditary-not-much-we-thought
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The key word here is "susceptible." I know guys who get high and/or drink almost every waking hour of every day and are pleasant conversationalists who hold steady jobs. The secret is that they enjoy life - crimo and his ilk do not. And if you are born with or raised to acquire a hatred toward society then access to recreational drugs is is a bad idea.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/7/2022 12:59:04 PM (No. 1209108)
If a person is susceptible to psychosis, marijuana will bring that to the surface in some people. They don't need another drug to treat the psychosis vulnerability. They need to not take the marijuana drug in the first place. That is a very important message, because once those symptoms are released, it is irreversible, and life long.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
kono 7/7/2022 1:30:08 PM (No. 1209135)
"THC, the active ingredient in cannabis, 20 years ago was at about 4% potency, but today’s Big Weed products are close to 100%. "
Close to 100%? Nack. Maybe closER to 100% -- the good stuff tends to come in around 40%. This more than doubles that, which makes the reporting error over 100%.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
kono 7/7/2022 1:46:20 PM (No. 1209156)
Regarding remarks 7 and 12 -- The recent reporting from the NIH (the last 2+ pandemic years) hasn't exactly vindicated them as trustworthy sources of objective analysis... The original Reefer Madness (about 50 years ago) was largely hysterical propaganda, and the modern version isn't much more credible.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
formerNYer 7/7/2022 2:02:19 PM (No. 1209186)
no! Maybe it was butter, didn't he eat butter? Or how about milk All bet all mass murders and shooters drank mil as babies maybe we should outlaw milk. I know people that have smoked pot for 50+ years and they're not out killing people.
I can go on and on but you get the picture, mental illness is a serious affliction that cause mayhem let not blame one thing.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
lakerman1 7/7/2022 5:26:46 PM (No. 1209360)
#16, I believe the Reefer Madness film emerged in the 1930s.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Faithfully 7/7/2022 8:55:57 PM (No. 1209501)
Raised on violent computer games. He should have been locked up years ago.
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