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For the First Time Ever, the Best-Selling
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Posted By: ladydawgfan, 1/6/2022 7:18:32 PM

2021 was a miserable enough year, but apparently, it has coattails. As last year’s auto sales numbers come in, a sad new reality has come to light: America’s best-selling carmaker is no longer an American company. Japanese automaker Toyota sold more cars in the United States than any other manufacturer, edging historical bestseller General Motors out of the top spot. This marks the first time since 1931 that GM isn’t the top-selling automaker in the states. Before them, Ford was number one. This marks the first time in history that the top-selling carmaker in the United States is a foreign company. Toyota has been at the top of global sales for a decade,


I drive Toyotas exclusively. I bought a Plymouth Neon new in the 90's and the resulting disastrous experience was so bad that I still get the willies even thinking all driving another Chrysler product!! Meanwhile, you can't kill a Toyota unless you try to teach it to swim!! This information is NOT a surprise to me at all!!

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Californian 1/6/2022 7:28:19 PM (No. 1030485)
I think this is because cheaper American cars are all junk but cheaper foreign cars are not. My more expensive American cars are solid. My low-mid range Nissan is also solid. The Ford and GM I had before the Nissan in same price range we're junk. And Ford's service center was a big rip off joint, too. I'm not surprised. They can do better.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: oldsfc 1/6/2022 7:29:11 PM (No. 1030486)
It is my understanding that Chrysler is owned by Fiat, thanks to oboma. Chrysler products have been garbage for years, no great loss there. I like Toyotas or Hondas. They are well built, from quality parts, and are tough and reliable.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Penney 1/6/2022 7:30:57 PM (No. 1030488)
American car makers no longer want to produce cars that appeal to Americans. The radicalized Big Governmental regulations are dictating the cars to be produced in the near future, cars which buyers do not like nor want! ...The political micro-managers are off on the wrong track again.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Lawsy0 1/6/2022 7:31:48 PM (No. 1030489)
Could it be because the Toyota of any year is better than cars made here? I learned a Toyota will not die unless you beat it to death intentionally. I've had two different Corollas (a 1970 and a 1990) years apart, each one went over 200,000 miles each.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs 1/6/2022 7:51:39 PM (No. 1030508)
#4, I was the 3d owner of a 2003 Corolla. Sold to my niece w 125k miles. She re-sold to me (for donation) w approximately 375k+. For some bizarre reason, Toyota stopped the odometer at 299,999. No matter. A little oil change and love, and they are with you indefinitely. (I’ve got a 4Runner and ES350.). LOVE.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Come And Take It 1/6/2022 8:04:34 PM (No. 1030519)
I still buy Fords, though I have not bought a new one off the showroom floor since 2004. That was a Taurus SEL that had more than 200k miles on it, and was still running strong right up until the China Flu moved me to full time work from home. Very unlikely I will change now, despite the more greenie leanings of the current Ford leadership. I prefer to buy used, and let someone else eat the depreciation of a new vehicle. Nothing against Toyota; I have just had such good luck with Ford for 30 years that I am loyal to the brand. I used to be that way about Chevy, but a couple of lemon vehicles from them moved me to Ford and I have never looked back.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: sanspeur 1/6/2022 8:54:31 PM (No. 1030525)
coinky dinky , for the first time ever an American prezzy was selected , not elected .. kinda like cars .. inly a few care enough to be American.. A value born here ..and dying here now ..
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Reply 8 - Posted by: SALady 1/6/2022 9:06:04 PM (No. 1030528)
I am in my 60's. In the last few decades, I have discovered that American car manufacturers make great pickup trucks. And they make some really nice luxury cars and sports cars. But their cheaper cars are pure unadulterated garbage. Lemons across the board. Meanwhile, the Toyota Corollas and the Honda Accords are amazing cars that put their American competition to shame. I truly wish Ford and Chevy could reverse this trend, but I have the feeling that the strong and fascist unions have a lot of the responsibility for this!!!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 1/6/2022 9:40:22 PM (No. 1030560)
Drove my last GMC 1,500 180,000 miles with no problems! Totaled in a crash and the new ones are junk! Friend had brand new 2,500 and the tranny dropped out at 13,000 miles! No more American here! Have two German built VW’s and a Mazda M5 Miata Speed!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Dr. Constant 1/6/2022 9:47:17 PM (No. 1030564)
Toyotas are built in the US. At least several years ago the Toyota Camry was the car with highest percentage of US sourced parts. Since many GM cars are made in Mexico or China, Toyota is as American as GM or Ford. And the Toyotas are NOT built by the evil UAW. Me, I drive a Mazda.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Venturer 1/6/2022 9:48:40 PM (No. 1030567)
My 2005 Toyota Camry died today. 225,000 mile and it threw a rod. It doesn't owe me anything it was a great little car. I kept it serviced well and it treated me well but left me on Rt.97 this morning.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: JHHolliday 1/6/2022 9:57:55 PM (No. 1030572)
I have had Toyotas for years. Foreign? Not really, one of mine was made in Tennessee and one in Kentucky by skilled American workers. I just read where Ford had moved another assembly line to Mexico. I will stick with automobiles on the market.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Jethro bo 1/6/2022 10:06:48 PM (No. 1030580)
I believe its due to sully chain issues. Drive by a Toyota, Nissan or Honda dealership and there are cars on the lot. Drive by Ford, GM and Chrysler, very few cars. And its been that way since Covid shut down factories. Shutting down the economy help foreign owned companies. They didn't have to rely on the US as much for production. Thanks to state goobers, mainly in Dem states, our supply chains were devastated and still are. I wouldn't be surprised to learn its cause the goobernment wants to ruin US automakers in the name of climate change or some such bullSchiff.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: skacmar 1/6/2022 10:31:49 PM (No. 1030589)
I'm pretty sure that the empty new car lots for the past almost 6 months did not help domestic auto new vehicle sales. The local Toyota lot didn't run out of new vehicles until about 3 months ago. Also, Ford only makes 1 actual car, the Mustang. Ford's Lincoln division is too small to make much of a difference with their limited car choices.They have put all of their eggs into the truck / SUV basket. GM has pretty much gone they way of Ford with trucks and SUVs with the exception of Cadillac's 2 sedans. Toyota on the other hand has a full range of vehicles from fuel efficient compact cars to full sized trucks with everything else in between. They are all well built and last forever.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bad-hair 1/6/2022 10:49:01 PM (No. 1030602)
My Tundra pickup is absolutely unbreakable. More goodies and as nice a highway ride as my previous not so tough Cadillac STS. Gave it to my son for college but also it meant i had an excuse to buy a new one. HeHeHe
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Reply 16 - Posted by: bad-hair 1/6/2022 10:50:32 PM (No. 1030604)
Oh, and PS. Made right here in good old red Texas.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: DVC 1/6/2022 11:33:11 PM (No. 1030640)
I have a Toyota has been a great one. It will be replaced with another Toyota if it ever wears out.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: PismoPat 1/6/2022 11:47:12 PM (No. 1030645)
GM is too busy becoming the leader in EV's, selling 26 electric vehicles last quarter!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: GardenGal 1/6/2022 11:47:30 PM (No. 1030646)
My husband has a 2001 Tundra that is a great truck. It has a lot more power than my son in laws newer Ford 150. My husband's truck can go up mountains easily. My son-in-law's Ford 150 has problems with a little hill. And yes, most Toyota's are built in the USA for the USA market. We already have a Toyota Engine plant here and are getting a Toyota Mazda plant that is starting up this year.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: judy 1/7/2022 1:13:09 AM (No. 1030695)
I’ve been driving Toyota’s & Nissans for almost 30 years...never a break down, high quality, great customer service, super trade in value,
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 1/7/2022 1:24:11 AM (No. 1030700)
My first 4WD was a Chevy Blazer. My second is a Toyota, still running great at just a bit under 200k miles. Much better than the Blazer.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: DCGIRL 1/7/2022 6:23:01 AM (No. 1030788)
Toyota is not cheap. They provide a very good product. I will never purchase an american made car. Did that sometime ago and had nothing but problems. I have been a Toyota consumer for over 40 years.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: F15 Gork 1/7/2022 6:42:13 AM (No. 1030805)
My 2006 Lexus is as good as the day I drove here off the lot 16 years ago. She has never let me down or had any mechanical problems. You’ll pay a little more for your ride but will save $$ in the long run.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: GustoGrabber 1/7/2022 7:13:47 AM (No. 1030826)
The Chevy bailout began the backdoor nationalization of the auto industry. Winners and losers picked on union strength, greenie standards.....Let’s go Barry!
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Reply 25 - Posted by: FunOne 1/7/2022 7:32:18 AM (No. 1030835)
Five years ago my favorite vehicle of choice, a Suburban, died on me, and in need of a good towing ride I quickly grabbed a loaner Toyota Sequoia from a dealer friend--until my Suburban transmission was fixed. After a week with the Toyota, I returned to my Suburban to clean out my personal items. I plan to make Toyota Sequoias my choice of vehicle for the remainder of my life. Great, comfortable vehicle that tows with little effort. Only maintenance expenses during five years have been changing oil, tires, and wipers.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: AltaD 1/7/2022 8:13:12 AM (No. 1030894)
I honestly thought Toyota surpassed GM and Ford in sales years ago, even decades ago.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: lakerman1 1/7/2022 8:31:50 AM (No. 1030919)
I bought a new 1978 Toyota SR 5 pick up in 1978, and added Rusty Jones rust prevention, at the suggestion of the salesman. The vehicle's frame rusted through in less than 2 years. And the Rusty Jones treatment excluded coverage for frame rust-through, only fender or external body rust through was covered. Rusty Jones went bankrupt not long after that, and I never forgave Toyota. I also learned that when you buy rust protection, you void the auto manufacturer's guarantee on rust.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: hoosierblue 1/7/2022 8:57:40 AM (No. 1030943)
I'm know Kia is producing cars here in the U.S. I am pretty sure Toyota and many others are doing the same. Ford, GMC, and the others are not any more of an American car company than they are any more.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: 49 Ford 1/7/2022 8:58:41 AM (No. 1030945)
My stepson's Toyota Camry dropped dead - as in door nail - at 126,000. You never really know with cars. I was born in the back seat of my grandfather's '49 Ford, and I drive a KIA Soul.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: udanja99 1/7/2022 9:37:51 AM (No. 1030995)
I’ve never owned an American car. 3 British, 2 German and 3 Japanese. Toyota makes great cars - I drove a Corolla into the ground over many years. As long as you attend to the routine maintenance, they run almost forever. I finally traded it in when the clutch was dying and it would have cost more to replace it than the car was worth.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: swarfer 1/7/2022 12:55:23 PM (No. 1031271)
It's going to be the same story when EVs hit the streets in big numbers. How all of a sudden are GM and Ford going to do better than they have been, otherwise they would be doing better right now? American car manufacturers, now only Ford and GM, have always pinned their hopes on the next model being a big success and pulling them up, not incremental improvements. The new Ford Maverick is a good example. It's difficult for Ford and GM to compete long term when Toyota's engineering and development costs are significantly lower even if their cars are made here. Overall Toyota legendary quality is insurmountable. Advertising hooplah and flash will only take you so far. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm shopping Toyotas today.
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Posted by ladydawgfan 1/6/2022 7:18:32 PM Post Reply
2021 was a miserable enough year, but apparently, it has coattails. As last year’s auto sales numbers come in, a sad new reality has come to light: America’s best-selling carmaker is no longer an American company. Japanese automaker Toyota sold more cars in the United States than any other manufacturer, edging historical bestseller General Motors out of the top spot. This marks the first time since 1931 that GM isn’t the top-selling automaker in the states. Before them, Ford was number one. This marks the first time in history that the top-selling carmaker in the United States is a foreign company. Toyota has been at the top of global sales for a decade,
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