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The Blind Justice of Defamation

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Posted By: Judy W., 2/9/2024 5:11:46 PM

Yesterday a Washington, D.C. ,jury found for the plaintiff in a defamation trial that had bounced around the D.C. court system for an extraordinary twelve years and that is rooted even earlier in the so-called “Climategate” controversy of 2009 over scientific and statistical methods employed by among others the plaintiff, climate scientist Michael Mann, to estimate whether and/or how fast the world’s climate is warming and whether human activity is decisive in this increase. (Snip) So how did the morning’s Associated Press trailer prepare us for the jury’s verdict in the legal battle between climate scientist Michael Mann and conservative writers Mark Steyn and Rand Simberg who had criticized his

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The plaintiff (Michael Mann) gets to choose what court will hear his complaint. Of course he chose the D.C. court, where the jury was probably 100 percent far-left, all in on The Science, and hostile to free speech and to anyone who might make fun of a Climate Scientist. I listened to a lot of the proceedings and thought Steyn's side was far superior. But Mann's side tried to make it a trial about SCIENCE, and the wickedness of anyone who tried to deny it, and his lawyer's final statement should have been cut off, as it brought in Donald Trump, election deniers, and the kitchen sink -- anything that would turn off easily-offended leftists. Mark Steyn represented himself, having been bankrupted by twelve years of legal expenses, and he was brilliant.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: plomke 2/9/2024 5:15:29 PM (No. 1654408)
Pray for Mark Steyn. Pray for all us no longer in a Constitutional Representative Republic...
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Digger 2/9/2024 5:30:21 PM (No. 1654413)
A colleague, a scientist whom I greatly respect, was fond of saying “If you torture data enough, it will tell you whatever you want to hear.” Dr. Mann did exactly that.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: NHChemist 2/9/2024 6:35:42 PM (No. 1654440)
Another site notes that: "State Farm Mutual Automobile Insurance Co. v. Campbell, 538 U.S. 408 (2003), was a case in which the United States Supreme Court held that the due process clause usually limits punitive damage awards to less than ten times the size of the compensatory damages awarded --the compensatory damages here were $1. The judge might well issue a judgment not withstanding verdict holding that in accord with this ruling Mann is entitled to no more than $10 in punitive damages.” Let's hope that this pertains to this award.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: ThreeBadCats3 2/9/2024 6:38:11 PM (No. 1654443)
Like other recent legal decisions, this is evidence that the legal system is worse than fallible. It is populated and supported by fools, from attorneys to jurors for the most part. Don’t let your child grow up to be a lawyer if you value their dignity.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Laotzu 2/9/2024 6:52:30 PM (No. 1654452)
Yesterday -- Steyn got hit with $1M punitives in a case with no actual damages: a man walking in the shoes of Archibald Cox told us he couldn't charge the President with his uncontested federal crimes because the President is a functional idiot; the State of Hawaii outlawed private gun use, citing a TV show and "the aloha spirit,"; and the CBO announced that going forward, we would be spending more on interest than on national defense or social programs. The last thing I did last night before bed was start the slow process of deleting all my Facebook content. I see no solution to the fundamental ills evidenced by these stories. My grandfather dodged a lifetime under a dictator by having the sense to not stick around, as did many Vietnamese and eastern Euros. Somebody else can have my bed in the camps because I won't be here when they come for me.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 2/9/2024 7:31:06 PM (No. 1654466)
Truth doesn't work for a defense. Mann is a crooked scammer.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: seamusm 2/9/2024 11:55:32 PM (No. 1654566)
Even $1 for actual damages was $1 too much but it was at least partly reassuring that the jury recognized there were no damages to speak of. But I would have thought that Mann by virtue of having parlayed the 'hokey stick' into worldwide fame would have been considered a 'public figure' and as such would have had to prove actual malice to win a defamation suit. Not that justice is at all available in a DC court when the venue had no relevance to either Mann or where the supposed libel took place.
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