Ohio sees drop in gun crimes across major
cities after permitless carry law, study shows
WOIO-TV [Cleveland, OH],
by
GabHart
Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe,
1/5/2024 12:09:05 AM
Contrary to concerns from some local leaders, a new study shows a decrease in gun crimes across six of Ohio’s eight largest cities following the implementation of the state’s “constitutional carry” law.[Snip]It focused on crimes involving firearms, verified gunshot-detection alerts, and the number of officers struck by gunfire.[Snip]“This is not to downplay the very real problem of gun violence in our cities,” noted Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost, who commissioned the study. “But the key takeaway here is that we need to focus on criminals, not responsible gun owners.”[Snip]CJR Director Melissa Burek, a Doctor of Criminal Justice, led the research.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Harlowe 1/5/2024 12:12:50 AM (No. 1629856)
OP~ Oops! Journalist should be Gabby Hart, not GabHart. No idea what happened other than possibly the cranky old computer at this end.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 1/5/2024 1:12:00 AM (No. 1629863)
"More Guns, Less Crime" -- John Lott's book title nailed it 20+ years ago.
Same thing has happened in the other states where this was done, too. Crooks are already armed, the only people who are disarmed by gun restrictions are the honest folks.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
MissMann 1/5/2024 4:04:06 AM (No. 1629897)
If this surprises you, you may be an idiot.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
mifla 1/5/2024 5:20:41 AM (No. 1629909)
An armed society is a polite society.
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Gun control is a steady hand.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Strike3 1/5/2024 7:25:30 AM (No. 1629970)
It took them long enough. Ohio, in the past, has been a nightmare for concealed carry enthusiasts with it's ridiculous rules, giving up a weekend for approved instruction on how to carry, expensive permits and not honoring the rights of nearby out of state gun owners. This needs to happen everywhere. New York? Illinois? California? Get behind the Constitution and 2A.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
David Key 1/5/2024 9:46:09 AM (No. 1630067)
Duh.... Happens every time they get their heads out of the collective posteriors.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Paperpuncher 1/5/2024 9:50:03 AM (No. 1630069)
I have had a permit to conceal carry since day one in Ohio. For concealed carry you were required to take a basic firearms safety course, have a background check, fill out a form, go to your local sheriff’s office and pay $50 to receive the permit which is good for five years. To renew you only have to fill out a form and go get your permit with the fee. If this is too much of a pain for you perhaps you shouldn’t be carrying. So, it costs you $10 per year. Wow, that will break the bank and will make you poverty stricken. How about that $500.00 firearm you just purchased and don’t have a clue how to safely handle it. . And yes there are some restrictions as to where you can carry. Not a big deal. Ohio has always been an open carry state. For a long time you could just strap it on and carry in full sight. One other thing to consider, if you are planning on crossing state lines make sure you can legally carry in any state you enter. Ohio has reciprocal agreements with most conceal carry states. This only applies if you have a permit.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
udanja99 1/5/2024 11:47:46 AM (No. 1630141)
This has been in the works in South Carolina and I just wish that the legislature would get it done. The governor will sign it in a heartbeat.
#8, the point is that, if you are not a felon, the 2nd amendment means that you don’t need a permit. If you pass the background check when legally purchasing a gun, you shouldn’t need anything else to enjoy your rights.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
mc squared 1/5/2024 12:05:48 PM (No. 1630148)
Not at all what the gun-grabbing commiecrats expected. OR WANTED.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 1/5/2024 1:00:16 PM (No. 1630189)
#9 is right. And when our CCW law passed, the anti-gun folks screetched that our requirement for 8 hours of classroom and range training to get the permit "wasn't nearly enough". I did some research at the time, and states which permit systems varied from zero training requirements in a number of states to 8 hours training in many and up to 16 hours....two full days in the classroom and on the range. Looking at self-defense shootings by state which were deemed "bad" or unlawful found zero difference between states with zero to 16 hours of training. The claim that mandatory training is going to make things safer is just a fiction. IT turns out that most people who don't know anything about handling a gun seek out training, formal or informal.
As a NRA trained instructor and 35 year handgun shooting competitor, even without any advertising, I still get sought out to train people in gun safety and competent use. And I generally charge nothing for friends and folks recommended by friends. And I often lose money on the deal, providing guns and ammo for the first parts of the training myself for beginners without a gun.
Do I recommend training from a competent instructor? Absolutely, and since cost can be a barrier for some, and time available, also, I work with people to see that the get trained.
One lady student had purchased a semiauto pistol after only training on revolvers, and was moving to a different state in a week, and said she had "No time to go to the range" with her new gun and me to check her out. I insisted that she make time, and she just said that she had so many things that must be done before she left, couldn't do it. I found that one thing was painting a fence.....so I spent about 5 hours painting her fence to make time to get her to the range. I wanted her to be safe with a type of gun she had never trained with.
My point? Yes, I greatly support training with firearms, and spend a lot of time doing it. But I support freedom more and the clear words of the 2nd Amendment.
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