Tropical Storm Hilary makes landfall in
Baja California with 'life-threatening' rain
Just the News,
by
Madeleine Hubbard
Original Article
Posted By: Ida Lou Pino,
8/20/2023 3:49:16 PM
Tropical Storm Hilary made landfall Sunday over Mexico's Baja California peninsula, bringing rain that forecasters warn could be "life-threatening." The National Weather Service said Hilary, which was downgraded from a hurricane, was still carrying enough rain to make "catastrophic and life-threatening flooding likely over Baja California and portions of the southwestern U.S. through Monday."
Reply 1 - Posted by:
chagrined 8/20/2023 3:54:54 PM (No. 1538789)
Yeah, it was a real humdinger. Sure, there'll be heavy rainfall and flooding in some areas due to the terrain in socal. However the strong winds were completely overblown. ..pardon the pun. Purposeful to scare would be my guess.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Birddog 8/20/2023 4:02:55 PM (No. 1538790)
So endeth the headlines about drought and soooooper high temps in the deserts...Death Valley to get 6inches or more of rain.
It's now half it's strength , traveling at twice it's former speed...winds rivaling...A Normal Summer Day on San Francisco Bay
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Birddog 8/20/2023 4:07:54 PM (No. 1538792)
Most of the areas to get lots of rain are deserts...they could use it, "Storm of a lifetime" may bring unheard of blooming and uncover fossils and relics unseen since the LAST floods to hit the areas...when it was WET there all of the time.
"Climate Change" has brought back the weather that once RULED the areas, as "Normal".
It's almost as if Mother Nature isdwatching. and when the headlines get toooo doomtime crazy she flips them off and rubs their noses in it.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Catherine 8/20/2023 4:13:39 PM (No. 1538794)
I'm from Louisiana. Ten inches of rain could fall any summer day. It never fazed us. Now living in Oklahoma. Winds of 60 mph and more are a common occurrence here. No one gets are terrified. You just move the potted plants out of the way til it stops.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Hermit_Crab 8/20/2023 4:23:14 PM (No. 1538800)
Some people consider rain to be life-giving. They were complaining about the horrible, life threatening drought not all that long ago.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
earlybird 8/20/2023 4:49:14 PM (No. 1538811)
As LDotters in places like Florida will gell you there is a vast differene vetween even heavy rain and a tropical storm. There are places in California that are expected to get in a few hours a steady dump of what they’d normally get in a full year.
One of the reasons I am glad to be a Californian: We don’t wish ill on fellow Americans in other states...
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DVC 8/20/2023 4:58:00 PM (No. 1538818)
Any time a big rainstorm comes up, there are issues with potential for flooding. In desert country, because of a general lack of much vegetation to help slow the runoff, flash flooding is pretty much the normal result of a big rainstorm. Every time.
This is why desert landscapes are filled with arroyos, which are the marks of past flash flooding. It's amazing that folks who move to or visit desert country so often have no idea that that neat smooth arroyo to hike in or camp in might be a really deadly choice.
There were, and probably still are, some videoes of what a flash flood in desert terrain looks like. It is NOT a "wall of water" roaring down, it is a wall of rocks, mud, logs, and boulders grinding everything in front of it into nothing.
But they happen in much of the desert country from an ordinary afternoon thunderstorm. So, a big rain like this - it'll be the same, but not so localized.
Hope folks are moving to high ground and understand what places aren't safe. Locals know this, tourists and travelers beware.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 8/20/2023 5:04:49 PM (No. 1538822)
Here's a good look at what a "flash flood" really looks like, and this is about 40 miles from where there was a thunderstorm in Utah. This is why choosing a camping site carefully in desert country is really crucial.
Six hours before and 40 miles away, there was a thunderstorm. How easy would that be to miss when out camping or hiking in the desert? Pretty darned easy.
Ya'll be careful now, and best wishes for all the folks who are in desert country when this big rain comes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yCnQuILmsM
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Mad Dog 8/20/2023 5:31:22 PM (No. 1538839)
Well, they should be thankful that Hilary is only a small hurricane, and not POTUS.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
garyhope 8/20/2023 5:45:41 PM (No. 1538846)
The Hillary jokes on this are going to write themselves aren't they.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Birddog 8/20/2023 6:22:49 PM (No. 1538875)
Back in the late 70's early 80's a buddy and I used to drive from south texas up to the desert/mountain states for two weeks every year. We pick a gerneral location, then once we got near there the rule was "No more than 30 minutes on a paved road", we followed fire trails, ranch roads, BLM tracks, somewhere out in the paited desert, or near Kodachome valley perhaps we, were far out in the boonies, saw a cave/mine opening, something...on a distant mesa, drove as close as we could, then parked and hiked for 6 hrs trying to get to it...distances are deceptive out there. as is the appearance that much of it is flat...it is cut through with washes and arroyos. In one we found a 1950's four door car, rolled into a ball, near perfect sphere, no more than 6 ft in diameter...literally 50 miles or more from the nearest paved road...washed there about the time we were born. May have still had someone in it, no way to tell, it was too crushed and solid. The background landscape is ALL towering hills, mesa's, striated layers where water in millennia past had built them up...with exposed faces where water over millennia had washed them away as it hurried past. Nearly all of the desert west was lake bottom at some point, and for a looooong time. Fresh water...not ocean.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Sandpiper 8/20/2023 7:42:09 PM (No. 1538932)
1” of rain in a few hours last winter put half of my acre underwater last winter. Desert soil doesn’t absorb a lot of water quickly and it runs off and floods. We are supposed to get 1/2” tonight in about 3 hours. I have sandbags by my doors, just in case.
Here is a video of a flash flood near my sister’s house. There was a summer storm way back in the Pine Nut mountains of northern Nevada - the flood was so strong it took out a horse barn if I recall correctly. You don’t need to watch the entire thing - just the suspense of the crackling branches in the beginning is interesting.
https://youtu.be/Is70zxH8_eY
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
MickTurn 8/20/2023 8:08:44 PM (No. 1538948)
Hilary, just like Hitlery, everything they touch turns to CRAP!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 8/20/2023 8:42:05 PM (No. 1538964)
In their desperate search for viewers, the media goes into their “we are all gonna die” mode. I am not saying these heavy rains can’t be dangerous but, for Pete’s sake, they could try to be more objective and less alarmist. Plus, most are working in the usual “climate change” propaganda for every weather event on the planet.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
varkdriver 8/20/2023 9:09:52 PM (No. 1538979)
I had thought Hurricane Hillary was looking for Hurricanes Bill and Monica, who themselves had merged into one disgusting wet mess...
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
DVC 8/20/2023 11:07:38 PM (No. 1539046)
Thanks for the video link, #12. If it rains in desert country, stay away from dry washes and arroyos and any low water crossings.
Hope all will be OK in LA and SD. Will check with friends who live a short walk from the SD zoo after it's over.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Strike3 8/21/2023 3:38:34 AM (No. 1539066)
California has been suffering from life-threatening drought for at least five years. Enjoy the rain and shut up about it. The people of Maui would have loved some rain.
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