Voters in Ohio reject GOP-backed proposal
that would have made it tougher to protect
abortion rights
Associated Press,
by
Julie Carr Smyth
&
Samantha Hendrickson
Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe,
8/8/2023 11:01:28 PM
COLUMBUS, Ohio - Ohio voters on Tuesday resoundingly rejected a Republican-backed measure that would have made it more difficult to change the state’s constitution, setting up a fall campaign that will become the nation’s latest referendum on abortion rights since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned nationwide protections last year.(Snip)Dennis Willard, a spokesperson for the opposition campaign One Person One Vote, called Issue 1 a “deceptive power grab” that was intended to diminish the power of the state’s voters. “Tonight is a major victory for democracy in Ohio,” Willard told a jubilant crowd at the opposition campaign’s watch party. “The majority still rules in Ohio.”
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Harlowe 8/8/2023 11:02:56 PM (No. 1530697)
Articles on Ohio’s Issue 1 posted earlier today revealed “yes” votes by some Ohio Ldotters. It would be interesting to learn from some Ohioans who voted “no” to share their reason, or known reasons by Ohioans they know who voted “no”, for wanting to reject this amendment to Ohio’s constitution.
There is reason to believe there may have been confusion by some Ohio voters about this August election. For example, some absolute pro-life Democrats were determined to cast their votes for “pro-life” so planned to vote “no” on Issue 1 because they wanted to reject authorizing abortions in Ohio. The abortion issue was not on the August ballot but very likely to be on the November ballot.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
TrueBlueWfan 8/8/2023 11:06:28 PM (No. 1530698)
There were lots of early, deceptive ads from the left and they were mostly unanswered until about 2 weeks ago. Many were confused.
Now the big battle is to keep them from ramming abortion through viability and transing kids without parental consent through in Nov.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
columba 8/8/2023 11:32:39 PM (No. 1530703)
God gave us humans FREE WILL, and we can choose to love our children or kill them, they say in Ohio.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 8/8/2023 11:38:12 PM (No. 1530709)
Did the voters really reject the measure? In today's America "vote totals" mean nothing. Did the Democrats cheat again? My guess is, they did.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
anniebc 8/8/2023 11:42:55 PM (No. 1530714)
I can't say I'm surprised. Does anyone think 2024 is going to be a cakewalk? It is God who allows the wicked to prosper for a season. What is God saying?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
jalo1951 8/9/2023 12:12:53 AM (No. 1530727)
I can see this as the straw that breaks the camel's back. No matter what the law says it will be presented as "the republicans are going to outlaw abortion everywhere for any reason". Even it if doesn't say that people will not pay attention, they will not take time to actually study the proposal and actually understand what it says. People will become one issue voters no matter how badly the dems continue to flush America down the toilet. Leaving it to the states (which I agree with but after 50 years it's hard to flip it) was the correct call but that argument will not mean a thing. The life and death issues of the baby, that's baby. not fetus, will mean nothing. We saw some of this in the midterms. When these people have no problem killing a 9 month in utero child I just cannot see their minds being changed with the argument of the border, or law and order, Biden criminal activity, energy, climate insanity, food crisis etc. The best way to stop abortion is to stop the pregnancy in the first place but a lot of women use abortion as birth control. They will insist their boyfriends vote D and they will. There is more to this than simply abortion but to them this is the only matter that will have their attention. All these actions will be showcased as "no abortion under any circumstance" vs "abortion 24/7 for any reason" which will never be true but will be believed and scores of women will vote to ensure their access.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
OhioNick 8/9/2023 12:41:54 AM (No. 1530729)
The state of Ohio needs to ban August elections. This definitely would have passed in the November general election. Additionally, the same school levies that never pass in November always seem to pass in August elections.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
KTWO 8/9/2023 12:54:24 AM (No. 1530732)
I have never seen such confusing descriptions and arguments about a ballot measure. As far as I understand it, nothing changed today. And who won is debatable.
Let's hope the voters make the best choices in November.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
NotaBene 8/9/2023 3:38:14 AM (No. 1530782)
This was an enormous loss for our Nation. Good for transgender surgeons. We are losing lots of important elections.: Arizona, Alaska, Michigan, New Hampshire, Georgia, for example. The Devil is very convincing.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Kate318 8/9/2023 8:54:43 AM (No. 1530924)
The outcome was never in doubt about this, and we all know why.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Corndoggies 8/9/2023 9:49:50 AM (No. 1530971)
Ballot measures or referendums are purposefully designed to be confusing. The only thing I know is the lefts always wins these and common sense folk lose. There had got to be a better way.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
columba 8/9/2023 11:15:11 AM (No. 1531022)
FROM THE BLESSED BIRGIN: Today, little children, I invite you, through prayer, to be with Jesus, so that through a personal experience of prayer you may be able to discover the beauty of God's creatures. You cannot speak or witness about prayer, if you do not pray. That is why, little children, in the silence of the heart, remain with Jesus, so that He may change and transform you with His love.”
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Tank 8/9/2023 11:48:34 AM (No. 1531058)
Well, as a native Ohioan, I'll add my two cents. I supported and voted for the measure, but not for the abortion reason; I just think it should be tougher to amend the constitution by plebiscite than it currently is.
Most of what is said above is true. Outside interests spent early and heavily on this measure and the local interests were outgunned. The ads were deceptive (on both sides, but the Nays were way worse). Turnout was high everywhere - both rural and urban. I had heard that the turnout in Cincinnati was higher than the last mayoral election. Statewide, I think turnout was ~40%. The legislature, for better or worse, was counting on low turnout when they put this on the ballot, hoping they could motivate Republicans by tying it to the abortion issue.
However, other factors included that they had previously criticized August special elections as expensive and unnecessary. And this coming on the heels of a major Republican corruption scandal that landed the last Speaker in the hoosegow. Plus, I think a lot of conservatives saw it as an end-run around the existing rules for the one issue - I think they were resistant to change the document for various reasons.
There are undoubtedly other factors, but I think those "cons" added up to enough to not get it passed. Shoot, it failed by ~60/40 so it's a pretty sound rebuke.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
kono 8/9/2023 12:39:18 PM (No. 1531117)
Many call the murder of helpless humans a right. Words seem to be of little to no avail for opening their eyes to the truth of what they are demanding in Ohio.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
DVC 8/9/2023 12:40:31 PM (No. 1531119)
Voters, or the vote controllers who can move around "voters" by shifting their registration addresses at will, by the thousands, automagically, and then "vote" those newly "moved" voters where ever and however they choose? And then these voter registrations show that they "moved" back to their original address....all without the actual person who is registered even knowing anything was done to their registration or that they voted elsewhere.
When they can do that in one state, you can bet that they can do whatever they want to in almost any state.
Computerized voting roles and computerized voting is a FIELD day for vote fraud, the final automation of massive, instant and complete control of the vote results.
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Republicans were falsely accused of a “deceptive power grab” by opponents of Issue 1. Ohio’s constitution needs to be updated: 1) to qualify as an amendment, petitions currently require 5% of voter signatures from 44 counties rather than all 88 counties; 2) additional signatures should not be added to an initiative petition once submitted to the Secretary of State rather than the current practice of extending days to gather more signatures. Rejecting Issue 1 makes it easier for citizen groups to bypass a legislature and simply pass amendments to the constitution to enact their own laws such as unlimited abortion, gun control, legal marijuana, open borders.