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Team DeSantis Expand Astroturf Operations
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Posted By: earlybird, 4/1/2023 5:24:19 PM

Everything about Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is shallow fakery and manipulative astroturf.The term “astroturf” is given whenever a political operation attempts to generate the illusion of support where little to no support exists. Astroturf politics is pure fabrication and highlights the smallness of the candidate for whom the astroturf operation is conducted. In republican national politics we saw astroturf operations around Carly Fiorina and Ted Cruz in 2016, so it doesn’t come as a surprise to see the same individual’s surface again as hired by Team DeSantis to create his 2024 astroturf campaign. Yesterday’s trip(snip)to Georgia was pure astroturf, complete with free DeSantis ’24 swag, t-shirts, and various

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Kate318 4/1/2023 5:34:18 PM (No. 1438884)
I’ve been following all the RdS updates on TCT, OP. Lots of maneuvering going on in that campaign right now. The fact that Karl Rove is pulling some major strings makes me more than wary.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: JayD 4/1/2023 5:48:01 PM (No. 1438887)
I'm glad to have DeSantis as governor here in Florida, but I would prefer he stays here than run for president. All the Bush staff, never-trump and neocon war-mongers lining up to push him is a really bad sign. I hope he dumps them all, sits this one out and backs Trump.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: winmag 4/1/2023 5:51:31 PM (No. 1438890)
I know some of the people advising him are loathsome RINOs, but where is the argument against any of his policies or his approach to governing? He is also great going up against the democrat run media.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: marbles 4/1/2023 5:52:36 PM (No. 1438891)
What # 1 said. Rove , he's the establishment. A member of the club which is why he cannot be trusted.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: MDConservative 4/1/2023 6:04:16 PM (No. 1438895)
So, #2, I should think you’d be happy to see your RINO, globalist, establishment governor, rumored to be GAY and molesting underaged girls, go off to either Washington or ignominious defeat. If he’s good enough, even desirable for Florida…
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Corndoggies 4/1/2023 6:16:25 PM (No. 1438901)
DeSantis/Kemp? Lord save us.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: TJ54 4/1/2023 6:28:18 PM (No. 1438905)
Reply 5, You sound like a libtard nutcase and not a Republican. Does Soros pay you to troll here?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Lake Dweller 4/1/2023 6:39:50 PM (No. 1438907)
#5, I’m not buying any of the garbage you are selling. Makes me sick to even see this crap being peddled by a so-called conservative. I’m for Trump, but like DeSantis too and hope he will have eight years in the White Hoise, starting in 2029.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Roboris 4/1/2023 6:46:32 PM (No. 1438909)
I stopped believing anything Conservative Treehouse says nearly a decade ago. Tiny bits of truth mixed with lies, lies, lies all the way down. If they say the sky is blue, I won’t believe it til I look for myself. They should just call themselves “Treehouse,” ‘cause conservative they ain’t… and never were as far as I can tell. When I see an outlandish headline on Lucienne, I take a guess that it’s either Treehouse or Gateway Pundit, and I’m right 99% of the time. I can spit way farther than I believe Jim Hoft. Grifters all.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rama41 4/1/2023 7:38:08 PM (No. 1438923)
Unwind your spring, Sundance.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Frederic F. Frew 4/1/2023 8:20:52 PM (No. 1438939)
Astroturf is sort of like Sundance articles -- offering the appearance of something newsworthy and interesting where it does not exist.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Birddog 4/1/2023 8:21:51 PM (No. 1438940)
Headline "Ga Poll DeStatis tromps Trump 48:38 head to head!"... same poll 'widened" to include anyone/everyone else? De Santis plummets 11 points...Trump stays basically the same.(629LVs 4pt margin of error) Gotta say this though..DeSantis "booksigning" turnout at 200-250 is still at LEAST double what Hillry drew to her "Rallies", and 10 times Bidens.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Digger 4/1/2023 9:06:26 PM (No. 1438958)
Thank you #9. Someone finally said “The king has no clothes!” I was not brave enough to say something but my thought was the same. I see there are others like us. May our tribe increase!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: SALady 4/1/2023 9:59:32 PM (No. 1438972)
Ted Cruz is not a stupid man. He remembers all too well how he almost lost his reelection campaign to Robert Francis Beto-the-faux-Mexican O'Rourke a few years ago when he crossed Donald Trump. There are way too many MAGA voters in Texas who have very long memories. Cruz is a solid conservative 99% of the time, and I love it when lie-beral Demon-Rats are stupid enough to go against his extremely quick intellect and wit. They usually get chewed up in pieces. I honestly believe (as a lifetime Texas) that Cruz has been getting tons of positive feedback as he as been a very vocal supporter of President Trump in this whole evil idiocy going on in New York right now. I can't believe he would be stupid enough to throw that away at this point in his life!!!!! But if Cruz goes against Trump in 2024, his political future will be dead in Texas.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: NHChemist 4/1/2023 10:01:52 PM (No. 1438973)
Many of the people supporting DeSantis are Never Trumpers. This does not make DeSantis a bad person, it only requires us to look carefully at his policies. Because the MSM portrays Trump so negatively, he has to overcome both the Democrats and the MSM to get his policies out. Trump needs to emphasize how well everyone was doing under his administration and name people who will be part of his administration who will work with him to drain the swamp.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Lawsy0 4/1/2023 10:33:32 PM (No. 1438988)
I listened this morning to DeSantis give the Keynote Address at a Conservative conference being held this weekend in Pennsylvania. He spoke as Florida's governor, and it is clear he likes being the Governor there. My takeaway from hearing him is he knows which side of bread is buttered. Don't sweat it, Floridians. You are still making nearly 49 other states jealous.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: 49 Ford 4/1/2023 10:45:54 PM (No. 1438994)
# 16, As a Floridian I thank you for that reassurance. Nothing good can come from a Trump vs. DeSantis contest.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: YorkieMom 4/1/2023 11:12:02 PM (No. 1439002)
Sundance sounds like a liberal democrat against any Republican except Trump. Of course he’s entitled to his opinion, as all of us are. One picky thing. I wish he knew the difference between plurals and possessives since he writes for a living.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rinktum 4/2/2023 6:22:02 AM (No. 1439079)
Everyone on this site knows I am for Trump and it’s for a pretty simple reason. I trust him. He is a known entity and I believe he will not betray us because he has the same goal and that is to save this country from the evil democrat party that has cheated, lied, and bullied their way to power. The danger that is crushing us is when democrats absorbed the DOJ and began their assault on justice. That one act is the most dangerous and as it stands today, they intend to use it as a weapon against President Trump and eventually anyone who supports him. I am flummoxed by Republicans who cannot see the power that would be generated for our side if they would, for once in their pathetic lives, understand that uniting to support Trump would be the logical thing to do. This is not their granddaddy’s election process and the stakes have never been higher. They know, the Republic is hanging by a thread and without a win in 2024, it’s over for us. This infighting will give democrats the victory. We have one path forward. We unite in solidarity and get serious about saving this country. Trump’s base is the Republican Party and I guarantee that peeling off votes from that loyal group is not going to happen. The same people who gave us nothing but democrat lite are a stubborn but vocal minority in the Republican Party who would rather lose than win with Trump. It makes no sense. His accomplishments are unparalleled and his loyalty to this country and its people cannot be denied. What has gone on in this country during the Biden regime is absolute lawlessness. Unfortunately, the cabal inside the Republican Party are much like democrats. They hate us too but use us to maintain the status quo. They are embarrassed by the idea of a government by, of and for the people. Their strategy is to dump the most successful President in modern history because they do not approve his America first agenda. They abhor the concept of making America great again because it is driven by what we the people want and is firmly against their mega donors’ self-serving agenda. Rinos have never done much for the people or the country but they certainly have spent money we don’t have, fought wars that were not in our best interests, and worst of all have been completely ineffectual when it was clear the government was going off the rails. The only thing this Republican cabal wants is to protect the status quo and I will not vote for anyone they support. I am done with Rove, the Bushes, Cheney’s, Romney, Hutchinson, Collins, Murkowski, and their ilk. These anti-Trump fools along with their counterparts in the media and political consulting class will surrender a win to democrats if they insist upon dividing us. They are more than willing to enable democrats to continue to lead us down the path of destruction if it means they get rid of Trump. Americans are opposed to that. We have experienced life under a Trump administration and we are not ever going back. Trump 2024.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: LesUNo 4/2/2023 8:09:21 AM (No. 1439117)
Bravo #19. So well said!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: happywarrior 4/2/2023 8:19:20 AM (No. 1439123)
Looks like a few of those Team DeSantis folks signed up for Lucianne. Good luck convincing us old timers here to trust anything you post. If you don't Sundance or Gateway maybe you should hit the road because we don't give a flying. Go troll on another site.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: thudlike 4/2/2023 9:40:00 AM (No. 1439177)
I used to have respect and admiration for this Bush tool. I will never vote for him now that he's been exposed.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Muguy 4/2/2023 9:57:58 AM (No. 1439193)
#14, I love the passion in your posts.... that being said, Senator Cruz has already started his campaign for re-election as Senator from Texas. Back to post-- The near religious fervor for Mr. Trump is almost to the point of worship for him like the zealots for NoBama. Neither men walk on water and the media pile on with Mr. Trump has been constant and unrelenting. The term "astroturfing" to prop up certain ideas and polices is what the news media and social media in all its forms has become-- and there are few persons who can discern the Truth from the LIES which we are FORCE-FED DAILY.... The entire Mueller investigation, impeachment 1 & 2 was all based on the FAKE NEWS and LEAKED fake news, and TRUMP is still standing. Now he gets media overload attention for some documents he had stored while the Vegetable has done the same thing to HIDE his corrupt dealings and they keep finding MORE. This whole media frenzy over Trump is to COVER UP the corruption of BiteMe and his disgraceful son and brother so they are OUT of the news cycle. CTH has some interesting things from time to time as well as the Hofts, but don't take everything they say as political gospel. For a time, the Matt Drudge site was useful, but that is why Lucianne is so indespensible-- the news is aggregated by the people who post it here! Its is nearing time for everyone to prepare for the Lord's mighty return as we enter this time of preparation and tribulation for this blessed Event-- are you all ready? Turn your eyes upon Jesus!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: mc squared 4/2/2023 10:09:41 AM (No. 1439207)
#5: gay? Under age girls? News to me and I live here. Some evidence please.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: wyowumin 4/2/2023 10:32:58 AM (No. 1439220)
#24, the underage girl DeSantis might be gay bilge came from Trump himself. He and the EverTrumpers are pulling the same kind of smear campaign against DeSantis that they did against Ted Cruz.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 4/2/2023 11:16:07 AM (No. 1439274)
The best way to cut through the BS (on both sides) is to know what you are looking for in advance. One would be surprised by how much that is said becomes instantly irrelevant. Especially all the personal attacks. They are BS. I watch their policies and whether or not I find them believable. What I look for most is how they are going to handle our crushing debt which is the source of most of our problems. From what I see, none of them has supplied an adequate answer. That includes Trump, but at least he seems closer to the target than any of them. There is plenty of opportunity for a candidate, but I'm not holding my breath. The sad truth is I doubt any of them know what to do.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Citoyen 4/2/2023 11:20:01 AM (No. 1439280)
Stooping to childish name calling reveals that Sundance is either very, very worried that DeSantis could indeed whup Trump in the primaries or that he has allowed pure hate to cloud his judgment. When it comes time for me to vote in the Republican primary I will vote for the candidate who I believe will defeat the Democrat. Only a fool would trash a man of the caliber of Ron DeSantis. Sundance is that fool.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: justjoe1237 4/2/2023 11:51:37 AM (No. 1439310)
I voted for Trump twice. But I knew he was going to lose for reelection because except for my father in law, my large Republican family detested, loathed, Trump. Democrats turned out in stunning numbers not because they liked Biden but because they so hated Trump. It is an interesting Socratic question for those who worship Trump: Why do so many Americans hate him? Put aside for a moment the issues of The Swamp, etc.-- that is not why they hate him-- and see, as an intellectual exercise, whether you can answer the question from their point of view. Rinktum I always admire your posts. You are smart and articulate, and you are correct in so much of what you say. But you are missing the forest for the trees. The questions surrounding 2024 are complex, no doubt. And critical. But the simple, clear truth is that if Trump runs again he will lose again. Of that I feel absolutely certain. And to those of you who are preparing your "troll!!!!" posts, you are juvenile and tiresome.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: mean Gene 4/2/2023 5:53:05 PM (No. 1439537)
Yes the pro-DeSantis faker trolls are out big time. Just to make my position clear. I will vote for Trump, and I will never vote for anyone in the future who chooses to run against him in 2024. Hear that Ron , Asa, Nikki, Mikes, Vivek, et al.?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: 49 Ford 4/2/2023 7:01:43 PM (No. 1439600)
That's great, # 29. Just give up whatever hope there may be for our country if things don't go your way.
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Posted by Imright 4/4/2023 6:48:07 PM Post Reply
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg reportedly asked Judge Juan Marchan to hold the trial of former President Donald Trump in January 2024, which happens to be the middle of the presidential primary season. Fox News reporter Jake Gibson, who was in the courtroom, said that prosecutors had asked for the January 2024 trial date. The Iowa caucuses — the first contest in the Republican primary — will be on February 5, 2024.That means prosecutors want a trial that would undoubtedly affect the race for the Republican nomination, both by distracting the current frontrunner, and by tarnishing him relative to other candidates in the race.
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