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The US’s March of Folly in Ukraine

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Posted By: Magnante, 3/10/2023 9:12:51 AM

One tries to read widely on the state of the Ukraine war, though it’s extremely difficult to cut through the fog of propaganda and obvious lies. But slowly, the picture of a determined, slow-moving, grinding, painful Russian victory emerges. Ukrainian casualties are almost certainly at unbearable, unsustainable levels. Closest guesses are in the range of 250,000 KIA, orders of magnitude greater than Russia’s, which draws from a vastly larger population. Ukraine is losing a generation of its male youth, all to prop up a declining US planetary hegemony.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Kate318 3/10/2023 9:45:25 AM (No. 1421767)
“March of Folly.” Good phrase, perfect description.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: wayneright 3/10/2023 9:49:32 AM (No. 1421774)
Exactly correct.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: felixcat 3/10/2023 9:51:39 AM (No. 1421777)
Another reason Russia invaded a year ago is because pResident Joe Biden, when asked, said a he would be okay with a "minor incursion" into Ukraine by Russia. BTW - I would love to see fat Zelensky supporters like the Vindman brothers and Victoria Nuland over there fighting for their beloved Ukraine.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Sanchin 3/10/2023 9:53:15 AM (No. 1421782)
Slowly slowly sense begins to appear with articles such as this. Yes, the Neocons and their tribe created this mess going back to 2014 under Obama and Nuland with the Color Revolution in Ukraine (Tuesday they may have tried for another on in Georgia). I feel bad for the average Ukrainian who is being pressed into military service but it is not my problem.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Jerseyden 3/10/2023 9:58:21 AM (No. 1421783)
In my opinion whenever a dem Adim is for something there has to be a sinister motive involved. My guess it’s a bunch of unreported cash going to the Biden enterprise.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: bgarrett 3/10/2023 10:14:56 AM (No. 1421802)
This article ignores the fact that Putin publicly states that the Baltic States, Poland, Moldova and Germany will be invaded next after he wins in Ukraine. I agree that Ukraine is not Americas problem. Those people have been fighting for thousands of years, not our problem.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: FormerDem 3/10/2023 10:15:03 AM (No. 1421803)
Wait a second, Jared, I stopped reading when you said the point of the war is to prop up a US something or other. That is not just an acceptable trope you can stick on in front of anything. Ukraine decided on this. They have moral agency and they have made some choices. The root cause is not most of us pining for hegemony. we do not. it is a refrain to every song and it goes down easy but it is not the true root cause. Ukraine wants Crimea and that is why this is going on and on and on and on. Whoever encouraged them in that, is responsible for the death of a generation.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Mofongo 3/10/2023 10:31:58 AM (No. 1421806)
#6 - What an absurd statement. Would you please post your quote or evidence?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Sanchin 3/10/2023 10:33:46 AM (No. 1421807)
Is it possible you back that up with legitimate references showing Putin making those comments #6?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Birddog 3/10/2023 11:03:31 AM (No. 1421827)
It's hard to grasp why HE thinks this is all driven by "Neo-cons" when Kerry, Blinken, Kamlalala, Austin, Mayorkas, and Uncle Joe's "Crack whitehouse team"(informed by ukraine, and crack expert Hunter Biden), and the prior Nato expansion efforts and the coup were all done under previous Dem administrations. Who is this guy anyway? No bio attached to the story. Googled the name and it came up with a young assoc. professor of Philosophy in Oswego NY,...anyone else familiar with him?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Californian 3/10/2023 11:37:48 AM (No. 1421863)
6, even if he actually did say that, he can't. Putin's military is the rusted remnants of the once mighty Soviet military. They were scary. Russia is not. Their economy is the size of Ohio's. No one fears Ohio is going to invade anyone. But Russia's rusted wreckage is a huge threat to the world? Oh, please, that war mongering neo-con philosophy should have died with the end of the USSR 30 years ago. Let it go. Russia is a vast broken shell. What one Western politician referred to as "Europe's gas station". This entire thing is just the old guard pentagon and state department knuckleheads finally getting their war on Russia they spent their whole lives preparing and *hoping* for. Why are we in Ukraine at all? Is there a dangerous wheat gap?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: stablemoney 3/10/2023 11:51:45 AM (No. 1421875)
When you line up behind a leadership of fools, you should stop and ask yourself, if you really want to follow that leadership. It is undisputed that Joe Biden is a fool, and so is Mitch McConnell. I have decided for myself to forego the Ukraine War. It's Joe and McConnell's war.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: bighambone 3/10/2023 12:10:43 PM (No. 1421889)
What Putin and the Russians are effectively doing in what they call their “near abroad” is trying to reconstitute and recover the lands that were part of the old Soviet Union that have since become independent countries. That is evident as all Russian military action so far has taken place in countries and on lands that were part of the old Soviet Union. What the Russians could do militarily in the future is anyone’s guess, but as long as NATO is a strong military defensive alliance, the chances of Russia militarily attacking a NATO country is slim.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 3/10/2023 12:23:30 PM (No. 1421908)
He can't cut through the "fog of propaganda" because he is creating pro-Russian propaganda.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Zeek Wolfe 3/10/2023 1:46:12 PM (No. 1421978)
Putin is to Ukraine as Hitler was to Sudetenland. Europeans learned the hard way about appeasement. This time they (and we) are doing something about it. We are led by imbeciles...that is the problem.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: rberlin 3/10/2023 11:08:43 PM (No. 1422311)
As a Vietnam combat veteran (1968 Tet offensive and all), we are showing the world once again that we are political and have no intention to help others that want freedom from communism. Even though Biden started it, we all have a moral obligation to see this through to the end. If we let Putin win by ending support, their will be no end to his aggression. The Ukrainians are asking for support for their freedom and not American troop intervention. This war between Putin's Russia and the free world is being fought by Ukraine's military not America. For my entire 75 years of life we have spent trillions to defend against the threat of the Soviet Union and Russia. We have an opportunity to end this threat by proxy without the loss one American life. If you truly want to throw another friend under the bus then you are a proven supporter of communist aggression, indifferent to despotism and desperatly anti-American.
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