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Do you really think our DC overlords will change?

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Posted By: DW626, 8/23/2022 12:28:15 PM

"I'll change, baby!" Those are the famous last words of every spousal abuser in the history of failed relationships. If you ever hear them, run! He (or she) won't change; they never do. People and systems change when there is no other option. They change not only when complicit parties take ownership of their actions, but when their actions have consequences. The last few weeks saw a continuation of the past six years of governmental abuse.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: marbles 8/23/2022 12:33:27 PM (No. 1257093)
Abusers never change.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 8/23/2022 12:42:32 PM (No. 1257100)
No, they LIKE what they do.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: sw penn 8/23/2022 12:46:02 PM (No. 1257103)
Of course they will change. They are changing before your eyes. They will always change for the worse...
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Reply 4 - Posted by: GustoGrabber 8/23/2022 12:54:55 PM (No. 1257109)
It is extremely distressing to hear from Sundance this AM that DeSantis's logisitcal support for a 2024 presidential run comes from the usual chamber of commerce types, hoping to catch fire with a Trump sounding candidate they can manage and control, Al McGuire once observed that if the company, organization, franchise etc, is running well, you replace from within. If not, you have to go outside. Federal government can only be fixed from outside, as it was with Reagan and with Trump One of Rush's many observations applies here: If they didn't make you, they can't break you. It appears that DeSantis is being created. It has to be Trump, and the people who believe that government is broken, must be limited severely and immediately and those responsible for the decline must not be allowed to continue in positiions of leadership and authority.... yes Mitch, this means you.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Quigley 8/23/2022 12:58:06 PM (No. 1257111)
The other issue is why should they change? The Gullibles are perfectly content to ignore important issues- for example, sunsetting the oil and gas industry when there is no energy source to replace it and giving $85 BB of high grade weaponry to people who would use it to kill us- in exchange for “get orange man.”
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Reply 6 - Posted by: bpl40 8/23/2022 1:09:17 PM (No. 1257116)
The blunt answer to the headline is NO. I have said on this site - perhaps half seriously that the only answer is to bring back corporal punishment. Now I feel it is really required.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: MDConservative 8/23/2022 1:11:33 PM (No. 1257117)
FTA: "Like children testing the limits of their parents' discipline, actors in government will not listen until there are understood consequences. That requires the public to demand accountability." 'Nuff sed. It would also be a bonus if our "real conservative" leaders acted to LEAD instead of advising to "Keep your powder dry."
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Reply 8 - Posted by: TJ54 8/23/2022 1:23:30 PM (No. 1257134)
They will change when they are in fear of their lives
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Reply 9 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 8/23/2022 2:03:39 PM (No. 1257157)
Nope, nope and hell nope. It's the DC state against everyone. It's Hunger Games mentality. They are the power, to them, they control the horizontal, they control the vertical, they control everything, they are in control, period, No Joke.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: stablemoney 8/23/2022 3:05:32 PM (No. 1257202)
No. We have been trying to get rid of John Cornyn, Lindsey Graham, and Mitch McConnell for the last 3 or 4 terms.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: minuteman 8/23/2022 4:41:36 PM (No. 1257267)
“… all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government…”
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Reply 12 - Posted by: columba 8/23/2022 6:37:29 PM (No. 1257349)
A current talk by Seraphim Rose documents revolutions stemming from the Eleventh Century (which were fairly common) and through the extensive (and still incomplete) recovery of France after its sordid revolution in the 18th century indicates that none of the revolution plotters changed until they died.
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