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Pollster: GOP looking beyond Trump in
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Posted By: Solid_Oak, 7/13/2022 11:45:47 AM

Republican pollster Rick Shaftan is like a lot of political junkies: He looks to his mother for hints on what real America is thinking. Lately, their talks have been about former President Donald Trump and whether he should run again. SNIP Of course, Trump does make some news, but it's mostly complaining about the 2020 election results and cheering on some 140 GOP candidates he has endorsed for 2022 who have won so far. But for the 2024 race, Shaftan’s mother and millions of other Republicans are starting to look past Trump to others more engaged on problems shocking the nation and taking on President Joe Biden.


Given the current state of our country, many Republicans, and Independents have become keenly aware of how important it is to win in 2024. It appears many are wondering if Trump gives us the best chance of winning against whoever the Democrats put up (It won't be Biden). Personally I don't think Trump represents our best chance, but if he should get the nomination

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Reply 1 - Posted by: LoveYourCountry 7/13/2022 11:49:33 AM (No. 1215168)
Whoever has the best chance of winning, that's what matters. I love Trump, but he's going to be 79 years old next election, and DeSantis would absolutely crush whatever clown they nominate. We absolutely cannot afford to have another for years of a Democrat, any Democrat, in the White House.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: ivehadit 7/13/2022 11:53:52 AM (No. 1215172)
Nice try, Wash. Ex. NO SALE. Donald is more popular than ever. He delivers what we want. AND, he is IMPERVIOUS to outside $$$ manipulation. He is THE leader of the republican party now. Long live MAGA!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: nwcudagal 7/13/2022 12:03:22 PM (No. 1215184)
Well, I definitely don't want Pence. If he is considered for VP again, I won't vote.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: tootall 7/13/2022 12:09:02 PM (No. 1215193)
BS. We need a mean tweeting brawler to defeat the RINOs, Lib/Prog, Elites. The current Government down three or four levels wants the status quo. After all, they're in position for their payday now.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: red1066 7/13/2022 12:20:47 PM (No. 1215206)
If, as many believe they will, the demoslut/communists attempt to cheat as they did in 2020, will it really matter who the Republican candidate will be? I mean in a somewhat fair election; the communists don't have anyone that could hold a candle to whomever the Republican candidate might be either Trump or Desantis. Plus, the communist record just over the last two years is reason enough to believe a pile of rocks could beat any demoslut candidate that might crawl out from whatever bog they live in. Of course, when dealing with women voters one can throw common sense out the window. These are the same people who gave us Clinton, Obozo, and Biteme even without the fraud in 2020.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: vhs68 7/13/2022 12:34:05 PM (No. 1215222)
I'm predicting a Trump/DeSantis ticket. Trump's smart enough to know he needs an asst. President in case he goes down for whatever reason. Look at it as a training run for DeSantis. If they pick anyone other than DeSantis, that puts DeSantis back another 4 years till 2032 before he can step up and run himself.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Muguy 7/13/2022 12:47:10 PM (No. 1215231)
Many who did vote Demonrat in 2020 voted NOT for JoeBamaVegetableBiteMe but AGAINST Trump. The RINO/Establishment/Media hate him with a passion, and have been out to get him since he announced to run for the Republican Nomination. The fake dossier, the fake Mueller panel, the J6 fake panel, two Impeachment efforts with aquittal, NON COVERAGE of even mention of irregularities and ignoring election law have failed to get El Trumpo out of the way, Perhaps the only thing would be that you cannot have two persons as running mates from the same State of residence preventing him from running. I would hate to have it be a knock down drag out between him and DeSantis. No one else save Ted Cruz had better enter the race, because those two are far and away the most likely to be electable. There are some other good persons out there, but in reality, it is NOT going to be Pence, or Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, Greg Abbott, Kristi Noem or Marco Rubio.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 7/13/2022 12:47:47 PM (No. 1215233)
Interesting number of “looking beyond” stories in the papers today. Funny, that.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: moebellini3 7/13/2022 1:09:36 PM (No. 1215255)
Total bullsh**. Its either Trump or DeSantis. No one else has the guts to confront the whack jobs in congress and do what has to be done for this country and drain the D.C. swamp. Make no mistake, the pure scum of Obama is running this country through his conduit, Susan Rice. This country better wake up soon...Got it..
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rich323 7/13/2022 1:09:58 PM (No. 1215257)
Lots of never Trumper OPs today using same words. Hmmm have bots invaded this website?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Safari Man 7/13/2022 1:39:07 PM (No. 1215288)
Lots of “concern trolls” floating around lately. Very few votes against Trump. Massive election fraud is not a vote against.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: navybrat 7/13/2022 1:48:22 PM (No. 1215295)
Trump needs to be re-elected. Age has nothing to do in his case. He is mentally sharp, understands economics and has a grasp of the result of mindless expensive regulations. He will not allow other countries to push the US around. Trump and DeSantis cannot run on the same ticket, they are from the same state, DeSantis needs to run for governor of Florida again to keep the state on track, He is young and can run for President and serve two terms after Trump. We need Trump to get the country on track and then DeSantis to keep it going.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: FormerDem 7/13/2022 1:49:10 PM (No. 1215297)
Trump managed to do things in 2016 to 2020 that nobody else has ever done. Like send abortion legislation back to the states where it belongs... Raise employment, close social inequalities, restore the Rust Belt cities... I realize now that the others weren't trying. Why would I want any of them, whatever age they are.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: spacer 7/13/2022 1:49:38 PM (No. 1215298)
Agree#10...The poster here never passes up a Trump smear.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: sanspeur 7/13/2022 2:19:59 PM (No. 1215325)
Bedard is a royal never trumper ..really really wants good for the MAgA team now ? right .nice gaslighting op here ..
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Reply 16 - Posted by: SALady 7/13/2022 2:28:27 PM (No. 1215329)
DeSantis is young. He is extremely popular. And he is smart -- smart enough to know that the best thing he can do in 2024 is to be Donald Trump's biggest cheerleader and stay as governor of Florida building up his experience and conservative credentials for 2028 and 2032!!!! You have to remember that Donald Trump got over 70,000,000 votes in 2020. Many of them no longer consider themselves to be Republicans, or have any loyalty to the Republican Party, after seeing how the Republicans stabbed President Trump in the back repeatedly after the election theft of 2020!!!!!!! If DeSantis primaries Trump and somehow beats him, many of those 70,000,000 Trump voters will sit at home on election day -- even if it means giving Commie Joe bidet another 4 years in office. They are sick of "politics as usual" and will see DeSantis as just another traitor and backstabber, and he will never get their votes in 2024 or beyond. If Trump runs, and DeSantis plays his biggest cheerleader in 2024, then DeSantis gets all of Trump's voters, as well as Trump's support (including financial) in 2028 and beyond. There is nothing to lose and everything to win, and DeSantis is smart enough to know it!!!! Please do not ignore the anger of Trump voters for what happened in 2020!!!!!!!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 7/13/2022 2:57:23 PM (No. 1215346)
Today is July 13, 2022. The mid-term elections are this coming this November 8. The Presidential election is November 2024! Has campaigning already begun for the presidency? Anything said now is conjecture and not worth spit in the ocean. What Trump is doing right now is working to get his people elected! After November 8, 2022, I think Trump will reveal his intentions. Remember, Trump has said that you never let the other guy know what you are really after.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: formerNYer 7/13/2022 3:09:38 PM (No. 1215359)
How about a DeSantis/Trump Jr. Ticket?
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Reply 19 - Posted by: ramona 7/13/2022 3:32:34 PM (No. 1215388)
The GOP never wanted Trump. He sure showed them last time (well Republican voters showed them). The GOPe is stuck on stupid. Ramona (the Pest)
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Reply 20 - Posted by: czechlist 7/13/2022 3:34:29 PM (No. 1215389)
I will vote for anyone other than a dim nominee in any race this year and in 2024 but Trump is losing my support. Right now he is in a stupid p i s s ing contest with Elon Musk! Why? If there is anyone on the fence Trump's senseless opinionating over everything continues to turn off potential supporters.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Solid_Oak 7/13/2022 3:38:05 PM (No. 1215390)
#17 "If DeSantis primaries Trump and somehow beats him, many of those 70,000,000 Trump voters will sit at home on election day -- even if it means giving Commie Joe bidet another 4 years in office." Any conservative who would stay home if Trump doesn't win the nomination is a disgrace to the conservative movement.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Solid_Oak 7/13/2022 3:39:44 PM (No. 1215391)
# 19 I like that ticket a lot.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: wakeupcall 7/13/2022 4:07:15 PM (No. 1215404)
There is no best chance for any republican to win. Only by fraud, if they can get away with it a fourth time. And, they just may. Over half of the American people, and world, know they stole the 2020 election, even the legal beagles know but they belong to the democrats, republicrats GOPe, etc., who are working for the Marxist Communist Global One World Government, and will never do anything about arresting those working for them who did the dirty deeds. October, 2020 Video; Biden tells how democrats stole the 2020 election and twice for Obama. The Marxist Communist democrats, republicrats GOPe, etc., are the real danger to America from within. Biden himself with a slip of his tongue, for once told the truth of the Marxist Communist democrats and they are all guilty of treason. October 2020, before the election; Biden speaking to former Barack Obama staffers on Pod Save America, host Dan Pfeiffer asked Biden what his message was to people who have not yet voted. Biden's confession starts at time 18:10 on video interview. Joe Biden: "Well, first of all, you know, uh, what really rankles, uh, my opponent is I say that, uh, the thing that bothers him most is he’s not a patch on Barack’s jeans." "Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together — and you’d [sic] guys, did it for our, the president Obama’s administration, before this — we have put together, I think, the most extensive and and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." Biden does not correct himself after saying “voter fraud organization,” nor did the hosts attempt to correct or clarify his statement. And, all mass news media brainwashing the people are consistent in blasting out denial of anything corrupt in politics on the democrats part.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: DVC 7/13/2022 5:20:19 PM (No. 1215447)
I want Trump. Only DeSantis seems to be actually a serious conservative on most issues. Most "Republicans" are lukewarm, middle of the road folks who might be somewhat fiscally conservative, but huge numbers are really barely any different than Dems, and are hardly worth supporting.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Hugh Akston 7/13/2022 6:12:38 PM (No. 1215488)
I understand the 'pragmatic logic/analysis' against rightfully-elected President Trump. My rose-colored Trump glasses think he would get even more votes than the last election - which he won handily - he would have a mandate, and would grab the bully pulpit and go full-metal Trump on all the liars, crooks, and frauds.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: MDConservative 7/14/2022 9:48:29 AM (No. 1216005)
I see the Trumpistas have shown up. Comments such as made by #10 and #15 are like a junior high school girl clique defending their favorite boy band by attacking "OP". (There are others as well who have played the part of clique enforcers in this salon.) I've been around here longer than most, to the chagrin of some, and survived the onslaught of Dubya GOAT fans (classy family), McCainiacs, Palinites, Romneybots, and now Trumpistas. Talk about mindless bots. Virtually all of them are long gone for their next favorite boy band. I'll continue to post, and hope others such as the OP of this piece do as well. (BTW: I posted this same article earlier in the day.)
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Reply 27 - Posted by: TexaTucky 7/14/2022 12:56:54 PM (No. 1216229)
Ya gotta admit, that's an ironic invocation of the "clique enforcer" moniker.
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