Regarding the Uvalde shooter, are we really
being told the truth?
American Thinker,
by
Ned Cosby
Original Article
Posted By: mc squared,
5/31/2022 9:48:48 AM
Where was Salvador Ramos born? Early reports say he was from North Dakota. North Dakota is a big state. In what town in North Dakota was the future mass killer born? Where is a copy of his North Dakota birth certificate? How about a baptism certificate?
I took Mr. LoCascio’s Critical Thinking class in high school in 1970 AD. This class taught us to question sources and not to believe everything we read.
In this era of “fake news” and disinformation, I think it is fair to ask the question, “Where was Salvador Ramos born?”
We’ve learned that the initial reports by police about the shooting are not
Reply 1 - Posted by:
jasonB 5/31/2022 10:03:04 AM (No. 1171266)
That fact that 'We don't know' is pretty much the answer unto itself.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
WinterParker 5/31/2022 10:20:21 AM (No. 1171288)
I'm pretty up on the news. I find it interesting that this the first I have heard that mama does not speak English. I guess when I heard of her ridiculous comments, I was reading a translated transcript...
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Vaquero45 5/31/2022 10:30:59 AM (No. 1171303)
We already know that the initial reports of him being a “loner” because he was “bullied” at school were b.s. Now we know he liked to kill cats and show off their bloody carcasses. We know his mother is a druggie, his father is nowhere to be found, and his grandfather is an ex-con. The truth will come out - slowly....
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 5/31/2022 10:47:22 AM (No. 1171322)
Given that the killer was Hispanic and thus unable to be tagged with the label "White Supremacist," the libtard media has by and large lost interest in the story beyond it's usefulness in advocating for total gun confiscation.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Midwest Mom 5/31/2022 10:51:12 AM (No. 1171324)
No we're not.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/31/2022 11:09:04 AM (No. 1171341)
His place of birth was almost the first question asked. He had a Latino name so that was an obvious question. Presumably answered by his family. No reason why someone couldn’t dig deeper. Will this writer do so or will he just throw it out and let it lie?
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/31/2022 11:10:50 AM (No. 1171342)
Re #3, please post a link to that information.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/31/2022 11:16:18 AM (No. 1171346)
In an interview, Texas State Senator Roland Gutierrez also said that Ramos, was born in North Dakota before moving to Uvalde. He also noted that the teenager went to high school in Uvalde, as reported by KFYR-TV. We are trying to independently confirm this information and will update the story as we learn more.
https://www.ibtimes.sg/salvador-ramos-was-texas-school-shooter-illegal-immigrant-64800
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/31/2022 11:35:07 AM (No. 1171356)
This article debunks the claims about photos of Ramos in female clothing. The actual subjects of the photos are coming forward and are pretty angry that their photos are being claimed to be of Ramos. There i also some info on the claims that Ramos was illegal. Inforwars and 4Chan apparently perpetuated false information. No surprise.
https://www.newsweek.com/uvalde-suspect-salvador-ramos-trans-claimswhat-we-do-know-what-we-dont-1709950
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
mc squared 5/31/2022 11:43:20 AM (No. 1171359)
Interesting link #9, but it says that Snopes confirmed that Ramos wasn't illegal. It also implies that is"apparently from the town of Uvalde
Snopes has never been the last word on anything. If the media were trustworthy, I wouldn't have any doubts.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 5/31/2022 12:27:27 PM (No. 1171420)
I don't believe any of the family are citizens. An entire family of illegals, is my bet.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 5/31/2022 12:30:24 PM (No. 1171422)
Of course, all most people want to know is how a fry cook could afford a Daniel Defense AR-15? While that's not much, it's off to a good start for questioning the "Current Narrative" of our untrustworthy, "Fast and Furious" Federal Government.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 5/31/2022 12:38:24 PM (No. 1171435)
Seriously, North Dakota? I don't think so...
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Penney 5/31/2022 1:22:40 PM (No. 1171487)
The dems' press obscures the facts surrounding the guilty killer while attempting to divert public attention onto the socialist media's political focus on gun control. The tunnel-visioned press is, as usual, off on a tangent away from the actual cause of this tragedy. They should instead research EVERYTHING about the killer, his motives, etc. and how he paid for the expensive weapons. The press hinders the investigation with their efty political bias!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
The Remnants 5/31/2022 1:57:18 PM (No. 1171530)
I relate to the author's story about his teacher's instruction to look for the source. Had a nun in high school who taught English and Literature and told us to do the same thing. Especially nowadays, when journalists, whether through laziness or the need to write the narrative they're told to write, cannot be trusted to give us the truth.
And Chuck Todd should find something else to write about than people who offer their thoughts and prayers for the victims. What else have we to offer? We rely upon our law enforcement and our news departments to fill us in on details to try to help us understand an horrendous situation. Both institutions failed us once again. Thoughts and prayers may be the best we have to offer, but it is better than incompetence and indifference.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
udanja99 5/31/2022 2:19:14 PM (No. 1171551)
I don’t use or trust Google and I certainly don’t believe anything that is posted on ultra left wing Snopes.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
DVC 5/31/2022 2:32:42 PM (No. 1171559)
Re #13, a fry cook in a family of big time coke smugglers. LOTS of cash laying around in that sort of a family, for a bit of skimming, or a big "allowance".
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No one seems interested in Ramos' place of birth. They're not interested in his sudden wealth which enabled him to buy his weapons. The Uvalde school has been locked down an average of twice a week because law enforcement was chasing smugglers. I think that town is filthy with drugs and mules.