China might claim salvage rights to crashed
US F-35 stealth jet by calling it an 'environmental
hazard': US recovery vessels are two weeks
away from crash site in South China Sea
and could take four MONTHS to retrieve it
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Elizabeth Elkind
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
1/26/2022 11:30:58 AM
A retired military official is warning on Wednesday that China could claim salvage rights to an F-35 stealth fighter jet that crashed into the South China Sea earlier this week. Carl Schuster, former director of operations at the US Pacific Command's Joint Intelligence Center in Hawaii, told CNN that China's likely game plan will be to capitalize on its territorial claims in the South China Sea and claim it's salvaging the craft for environmental purposes.(Snip)The timeline for search and recovery could stretch across months, the retired military commander said. Salvage ships could take between 10 to 15 days to arrive at their destination, he explained,
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Highlander 1/26/2022 11:39:05 AM (No. 1051428)
Why can’t they have self-destruct devices on these planes as soon as the pilot bails out?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Quigley 1/26/2022 11:41:50 AM (No. 1051430)
The bi.den response is to insist that’ll be another $1,000,000.99 purchases of huncher art. And an extra key to the office.
Otherwise the US will launch nuclear devices.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
downnout 1/26/2022 11:42:15 AM (No. 1051432)
Something doesn’t add up here. As I understand it the plane crashed on the flight deck then went over the side of the carrier. Are they telling us a United States aircraft carrier can’t keep the Chinese away from the crash site until the recovery vessels arrive?? What has happened to our military?!?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Rich323 1/26/2022 11:42:36 AM (No. 1051433)
They probably have the plans and technology behind the F-35 already. They send students to all our universities and those students are in technology development groups. Once a new tech is created the US Govt takes over and runs it. They have been stealing technology from universities and US companies for years. Problem is Washington has NEVER wanted to do anything to fix this problem. I guess they are all being paid off by CCP to look the other way?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Gina 1/26/2022 11:49:18 AM (No. 1051441)
China is an environmental hazard.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Sherlock AZ 1/26/2022 11:50:42 AM (No. 1051445)
How convenient. Isn't this a great way to pass on our technology to the Chinese who beyond any doubt owns the Biden family?
Yes, I've grown (correctly) paranoid in my old age.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Highlander 1/26/2022 11:53:52 AM (No. 1051448)
Reply 5: I agree China is an environmental hazard. Just about all our modern diseases come from there. China is one huge Petri dish of pathogens.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
itsonlyme 1/26/2022 11:54:36 AM (No. 1051449)
Why be concerned about the Chinese getting a F-35 stealth jet?
Joe "Dementia" Biden is probably gearing up to celebrate:
National Ice Cream Day – July 17, 2022
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Nixon faced the same thing with the Russians for a missing F-14. Fortunately he had Howard Hughes and the Glomar Explorer and of course our adversaries feared him - unlike Ice Cream Joe.
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Number 1 I can’t imagine many pilots or maintenance crews would want to be around an aircraft with self destructive devices built in. Certainly the captains of aircraft carriers would object too.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 1/26/2022 12:07:20 PM (No. 1051463)
What makes anyone think that China doesn't already know everything there is to know about our defense systems, including the bra size of the latest 'female' Navy admiral?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
thomthomp 1/26/2022 12:18:28 PM (No. 1051477)
#1, as a retired USAF fighter pilot I believe you might want to think about that idea just a few minutes longer.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Trump Won 1/26/2022 12:29:24 PM (No. 1051496)
As others have said, the Chinese most likely have already stolen the technology for the F-35. They can't even weaponize a virus without our help (right Fauci?). As far as trying to recover the aircraft, I don't think the PLA Navy will be messing around with the Carl Vinson's carrier strike group anytime soon.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
kono 1/26/2022 12:48:16 PM (No. 1051521)
The Navy has to be capable of more timely response to matters having urgency, such as this. A salvage ship with a handful of escorts should be able to muster to the spot within a few days, not weeks. The amateurish mismanagement of the Afghanistan pullout has company now, with the amateurish bumbling of this.
Our best hope with China and Russia, it seems, is that our incompetence might leave them paralyzed with laughter.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Kumoan 1/26/2022 1:03:05 PM (No. 1051541)
IIRC, the Chicomms have already stolen all the F-35 data [demorats are outraged as there no payoffs] and have a cheap, throwaway Chinese knockoff "flying."
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 1/26/2022 1:21:02 PM (No. 1051562)
#3 is thinking what I'm thinking. An aircraft carrier cannot begin a salvage operation, and protect American property?
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
DVC 1/26/2022 1:23:07 PM (No. 1051565)
Ridiculous, #1. What are the odds that some way, some day, it would go off at the wrong time?
Put a cruiser and a couple of destroyers to sit on the site, literally.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
hershey 1/26/2022 1:26:54 PM (No. 1051571)
They probably already have the tech courtesy of deep pockets poopie pants president and his worthless son Hunter...
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Pearson365 1/26/2022 1:34:02 PM (No. 1051577)
Since this ridiculously expensive aircraft won’t be useable if recovered, why spend $35 million or more retrieving it? Just blow it to a thousand pieces where it lies. Surely our Navy, even in its woke status, can accomplish this task.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
DVC 1/26/2022 1:56:39 PM (No. 1051594)
#19, it is probably in about ONE big piece with some crash damage. And it has a LOT of classified systems, designs, materials, electronics and software on board.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 1/26/2022 2:10:45 PM (No. 1051608)
We'll have a lot of allies in the UN who'll vote against this. /s
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Highlander 1/26/2022 3:41:16 PM (No. 1051706)
I modify my original question thus; set the device to go off, once every American is clear of it and before the Chinese get their hands on it. Maybe have it go off as soon as the Chinese junks are above it!
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec 1/26/2022 3:46:20 PM (No. 1051708)
Trump would have called Xi and told him if he went near than plane China would regret it.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 1/26/2022 4:09:42 PM (No. 1051726)
Re #1,
Don't blow it up. Just set something up to melt all of the electronics.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
BarryNo 1/26/2022 5:19:53 PM (No. 1051779)
If it were any other president, but Biden, they'd be telling the Chinese they put a salvage team anywhere near our plane, they need another salvage team to recover the remains.
However, I'm pretty sure Barak and Joey have already passed the F35 plans along for a pretty campaign donation.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
danu 1/26/2022 6:27:09 PM (No. 1051849)
This ineptitude wouldn't happen if Popeye were in charge.
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The Chinese have already stolen the plans for the F-35. Not much need for them to salvage.
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I guess I've just watched too many WWII movies but why can't they just blow it up? We used to drop depth charges on submarines, right?
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
DVC 1/27/2022 1:36:31 AM (No. 1052085)
Still ridiculous and way too dangerous for any real consideration, #22. You've never been around ordinance, have you? I have not myself, but had a Spec Forces demolition expert as a close friend for many years, and we talked about stuff, and I have been around watching when friends were blowing rocks and stumps. That sort of demolition charge would be more dangerous to US folks than any possible benefit.
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