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Multiple Logical Fallacies Elevate COVID
Vaccines Over COVID Treatments

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Posted By: Magnante, 12/8/2021 9:32:10 AM

Monday morning, as I did my morning bicycle ride (I live in a safe neighborhood), I listened to Breitbart News host Alex Marlowe interview John Nolte, another Breitbart personality about COVID vaccination hesitancy. By the end of the interview, they’d wandered through several logical fallacies that need to be exposed so people can accurately balance vaccines versus treatments. Marlowe and Nolte quoted data purporting to show that Washington state counties that Trump won have much higher COVID death rates than counties that Biden won. Vaccination rates are blamed for the difference.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: franq 12/8/2021 10:23:39 AM (No. 1000569)
Logical fallacies, otherwise known as lies.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MDConservative 12/8/2021 10:30:15 AM (No. 1000576)
Here's what I think: There is so much BS information spread by all sides of the vax issue that people should make their own decision however they arrive at one. I happen to be vaxxed. I don't give a hoot whether you are or not. I do not wear a mask, never did unless "forced". I am opposed to any mandates. In January it was Trump's Warp Speed gift to mankind. Now it's Biden-Fauci overhyped poison. Whatever. The stories aren't going to change.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Avanti1 12/8/2021 10:54:12 AM (No. 1000597)
While I agree with the mantra to "follow the science," Americans must first be provided ALL the data collected using the scientific method. If there is no data, just say so and outline how the necessary data is being sought. Prominent people such as Dr Fauci make PRONOUNCEMENTS of CONCLUSIONS without providing the data required to reach those conclusions. They TELL people, they do NO CONVINCE people, which is neither scientific nor logical. It is merely propaganda and manipulation; it must be rejected and stopped.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: slipstik 12/8/2021 11:03:57 AM (No. 1000607)
Here's the bottom line on all these lies from our government: around 600,000 Americans don't have to be dead. They were murdered by the lying weasels heading the supposed.medical establishment at CDC, FDA, NIH, by withholding safe, efficacious treatments and LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH about it. Horse wormer, indeed. Murderers. Crime against humanity.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: lakerman1 12/8/2021 11:34:34 AM (No. 1000635)
I have been waiting for Dr. Noel to join in, and he does not disappoint. Muller's Ratchet (worth googling) and early treatment of Kung Flu with anti-virals has allowed India to overcome the disease. Too bad Little Anthony the Imperious was locked in on his flawed approach.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: cold porridge 12/8/2021 11:50:17 AM (No. 1000645)
Dr. Noel is dead on with this article. I have said the same things all along. I also believe that it is up to each individual to decide whether to be vaxxed or not. From what I see however, it appears the vaccines are more dangerous than covid.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 12/8/2021 12:18:38 PM (No. 1000674)
FTA: "Randomized controlled trials have proven that IVM reduces COVID deaths even better than the vaccine. The state of Uttar Pradesh in India used IVM to wipe out COVID for 241 million people. But those people in Washington’s red counties were ruled by Dark Lord Inslee, making IVM and HCQ unavailable." And monoclonal antibodies, used widely in Florida, difficult to obtain around here are also extremely effective, if given early. My friend who was denied monoclonal antibodies at the same time that his wife was given the antibodies (he didn't pass their 'checklist') HAS DIED after being sent home untreated to get sicker and sicker for 3 weeks, and finally he was sick enough to be hospitalized....where they did nothing useful, put him on a ventilator and after two weeks....he died. His wife was fine in a couple of days BECAUSE SHE WAS TREATED. He was selected to let die, "No, you don't qualify for antibodies". These "doctors" who will not treat people, who DENY the readily available (monoclonal antibodies) lifesaving treatment to sick people....are no different than murderers. I cannot tell you how angry I am. This WAS all theoretical, and very frustrating before this. Now it is personal. They murdered my friend. Evil people in white coats.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: franq 12/8/2021 12:23:21 PM (No. 1000680)
Sorry for the loss of your friend, #7. It must hurt and anger at the same time. Ventilator with COVID rarely confers survival. I was in that trap myself.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: mean Gene 12/8/2021 1:17:48 PM (No. 1000745)
The article implies that you can only get Ivermectin and HCQ via dotor's prescription. Not true. You can get each thru the mail without a prescription. That article from a couple days ago at AT about the covid infected man who smuggled them into his hospital room while the doctors there would have let him die is a case in point.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: jasmine 12/8/2021 3:08:20 PM (No. 1000861)
President Trump wanted Americans to have access to vaccines AND treatments. That's because he was a leader whose first priority was the United States and our citizens and legal residents. But our corrupt, self serving politicians have forgotten their place, choosing to stand between patients and their doctors. Supposedly "for our own good" politicians have been WARNING doctors and pharmacists not to prescribe, nor dispense drugs like hdroxychloroquine or Ivermectin for off label use. Imagine being a doctor with older patients you've known for decades, and being told you cannot treat those patient with well studied, decades old drugs that are off patent and cheap, and when used with certain vitamins and antibiotics, can clear the virus in a matter of days. It's all about politicians getting more power and money. Just as Dems scammed Americans with the Russia hoax, they're pushing another hoax to deny Americans treatment of a virus with drugs we already have. Doctors ought to be able to"repurpose " effective drugs without left wing political interference. I lost my brother to Covid 19 before the vaccines were available. Politicians only allowed "treatment" with vitamins and hydration, and sometimes ventilation. In rare cases where the repurposed drugs were permitted, the patient had to be hospitalized. That meant politicians and bureaucrats denied patients access to early treatment that could have been begun and completed with pills at home. Politicians and bureaucrats were able to claim the drugs were ineffective, knowing full well that early treatment with them gave patients the best chance of being cured.
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