Unvaccinated Americans are more likely
to die of non-Covid causes than those
who received their shots, CDC report finds
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Mary Kekatos
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
10/22/2021 11:50:16 PM
Unvaccinated Americans are more likely to die of non-Covid causes than those who got their shots, a new report finds.
Researchers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) compared deaths among those aged 12 and older who got any of the three authorized vaccines in the U.S. to teens and adults who did not. Deaths due to causes unrelated to the virus were up to three times more likely in unvaccinated people than those who got either the Pfizer or Moderna Covid vaccines. And non-COVID-19 fatalities were nearly twice as likely among Americans who were not jabbed compared to those who received the one-shot
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Catherine 10/22/2021 11:59:02 PM (No. 954628)
So wait, did they just say vaccinated people are more likely to die from Covid? I think that's what they said.
132 people like this.
Any time I see 'CDC says' I know the exact opposite is true.
90 people like this.
Reply 3 - Posted by:
BRDG 10/23/2021 12:23:18 AM (No. 954638)
I call B.S.
"All Causes" death rate is running more than 10% ABOVE expectations.... the big variable is the vaccine.
They are covering their donkeys with more lies.
68 people like this.
Reply 4 - Posted by:
stablemoney 10/23/2021 12:26:04 AM (No. 954640)
The governments britches have gotten so large that they think they can control mortality, the climate, and everyone on the planet.
81 people like this.
Reply 5 - Posted by:
Birddog 10/23/2021 12:40:51 AM (No. 954642)
WOW! The Vaccine that works on EVERYTHING!!!
"Wait there's More...if you call right now you will get TWO for the same looooow price(plus shipping/handling)"
80 people like this.
Reply 6 - Posted by:
LadyVet 10/23/2021 1:00:35 AM (No. 954648)
If there is any truth to this (and the stats may be within the margin of error), then it may be that people who are already seriously ill or have life-threatening conditions are not getting the vaccine, probably because the risk of the vaccine only increases the risk already hanging over their heads. For instance, why get the vaccine if you already have heart valve problems?
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
pensom2 10/23/2021 1:21:13 AM (No. 954651)
Any statistician--heck, any scientist or logical person on the stret-- can tell you that correlation does not equal causation.
52 people like this.
Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 10/23/2021 1:33:39 AM (No. 954657)
I have said for months that I am more afraid of The Shot than I am of the Wuhan virus.
Sounds like proof that I was evaluating the risks properly.
69 people like this.
Reply 9 - Posted by:
kono 10/23/2021 1:42:01 AM (No. 954660)
And the vaccinated are dying because of the unvaccinated, I'm sure. I stopped paying attention to CDC 17 months ago.
59 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
chumley 10/23/2021 1:57:45 AM (No. 954672)
No government agency has any credibility whatsoever. They will all do what they are told to do, and most of the time that order is to lie. If there are any truths involved they get classified.
CDC? Please. They have become political operatives just like the FBI and IRS.
65 people like this.
Reply 11 - Posted by:
BirdsNest 10/23/2021 3:23:13 AM (No. 954710)
They need a new Ouija board.
36 people like this.
Oh please…this crap hasn’t even been on the market long enough to make this assumption be anywhere near valid. Next…
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 10/23/2021 4:31:11 AM (No. 954726)
If you love Jesus you don’t care if you die. Absent from the body is together with the Lord.
60 people like this.
Reply 14 - Posted by:
planetgeo 10/23/2021 6:03:21 AM (No. 954748)
This is getting Looney Tunes goofy.
27 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
anniebc 10/23/2021 6:13:45 AM (No. 954750)
And yet, everyone of us WILL die. From something. Liars.
26 people like this.
Reply 16 - Posted by:
Toby Ten Bears 10/23/2021 6:25:39 AM (No. 954762)
So in other words, they will die of natural causes... vaccinated will die of Covid... OK then!
44 people like this.
Reply 17 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 10/23/2021 7:15:03 AM (No. 954795)
Will someone in the government PLEASE say something that makes sense?
26 people like this.
Reply 18 - Posted by:
udanja99 10/23/2021 7:36:58 AM (No. 954812)
The headline is so absurd and blatantly false why read beyond it?
21 people like this.
Reply 19 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 10/23/2021 7:37:34 AM (No. 954815)
I've been looking all morning for the CDC's credibility. I can't seem to find it.
16 people like this.
Reply 20 - Posted by:
cgood 10/23/2021 7:37:48 AM (No. 954816)
They are trying to prove that unvaccinated people make poor choices about their health all around. Good excuse for insurance companies to deny coverage.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 10/23/2021 7:40:26 AM (No. 954820)
Sorry for the second post but please note the rendering of the data leading to their conclusion. The assertion that the 'vaccines' prevent deaths from other causes seems shocking at best, absurd at worst. It's as if they're well on the path to discovering immortality!
"Death rates were calculated as deaths per 100 person-years, or number of persons who die per 100 per year."
It is well known that suicide rates and drug overdoses have greatly increased in the age of COVID. Because of this our average life expectancy has declined. These causes of death are far higher in the younger population. Is this study simply amplifying deaths caused by overdoses and suicides and attributing it to the unvaccinated? As pointed out by a previous poster, correlation is not causation.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 10/23/2021 7:43:31 AM (No. 954825)
They are running out of lipstick on that pig!
17 people like this.
Reply 23 - Posted by:
NancyD 10/23/2021 7:51:17 AM (No. 954830)
Remember when Rush said, "Whoever eats peas will eventually die". That is what I immediately thought about when I read this article. It's SO dumb.
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Remember, They are the ones who brought you 18 months of crud disguised as a pandemic! They, and the NIH are complicit with Herr Fauci in throttling the world with this bio weapon. Why the truth hasn’t come out is beyond me (Sarc…)
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
little guy 10/23/2021 8:07:38 AM (No. 954846)
Mark Twain once wrote: "Statistics are like a drunk woman --- after awhile you can do whatever you want with them".
How's this: Using the data, it proves that the people who have taken "the shot" are more likely to stay home anyway or are much older percentage wise and less likely to be exposed to danger. "Shot takers" are more cautious & less adventuresome and more worried about --- everything!. The people of all age groups LEAST likely to take "the shot" are the young, the brash, the more out-going, the risk takers among us. They run their own lives and also climb mountains ... and sometimes fall off! Thus, the stat difference.
13 people like this.
Reply 26 - Posted by:
MickTurn 10/23/2021 8:35:14 AM (No. 954873)
I'm throwing the major Bull Crap Flag...
10 people like this.
Reply 27 - Posted by:
Strike3 10/23/2021 8:47:34 AM (No. 954905)
It all comes down to one question, should you place your trust in what God created or in what the US Government says is good for you? A no-brainer for me.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
downnout 10/23/2021 8:54:44 AM (No. 954916)
Well, since unvaxxed people are less likely to be cowering in their homes it makes sense. The unvaxxed are out enjoying life and taking risks. The government won’t be happy until we’re all reduced to begging for crumbs from their benevolent fingers.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
3XALADY 10/23/2021 8:55:30 AM (No. 954917)
Well, paint me green and call me a pickle! I fully expect to die of natural causes, not some heart issue or clotting issue from gettig the clot shot. Sounds to me like they think it will kill you dead. That's what i think too.
12 people like this.
Reply 30 - Posted by:
lakerman1 10/23/2021 9:03:03 AM (No. 954931)
Fauci has turned into a 19th century medicine man, peddling his wares from the back of a horse drawn wagon.
If Old Doc Adams were around, he would slap the snot out of Fauci. (Obscure reference to a character from Gubsnmoke,)
18 people like this.
Reply 31 - Posted by:
gop_guys 10/23/2021 9:13:05 AM (No. 954945)
No wonder thinking Americans don’t trust these ridiculous government agencies. This latest statement is beyond the pale. Signed; a “pure blood.”
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 10/23/2021 9:19:18 AM (No. 954957)
There is no pandemic!
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 10/23/2021 9:22:13 AM (No. 954963)
I just want Fauci and several others to be handcuffed and taken in for lying to the American people. The filing of criminal charges and life in prison for Fauci's role in assisting the chicoms in developing the covid virus is too nice an outcome for him.
20 people like this.
Reply 34 - Posted by:
Republic Can 10/23/2021 9:29:57 AM (No. 954968)
Could it be that for those who need transfusions, that they are refusing treatment because the medics can't guarantee the blood they will receive is from non vaxxed people. So they would rather die. I know it sounds farfetched but I would go into the hyper-reluctant category over that too.
One way or another, they are coming for all us useless eaters and breeders.
5 people like this.
Reply 35 - Posted by:
czechlist 10/23/2021 9:52:35 AM (No. 955004)
"non covid causes"
does that include a gun shot from Alec Baldwin?
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
Trapper 10/23/2021 10:15:39 AM (No. 955040)
The covid vaccinations provide an invincibility cloak. Auto accidents, falling tree limbs, lightening strikes, falling buildings, bullets, runaway trains, jealous husbands, cattle stampedes, zombie hoards, none of it can hurt you if you get the jab. Who knew?
9 people like this.
Reply 37 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 10/23/2021 10:17:10 AM (No. 955043)
I call this Bull Corn. This is the dumbest statement I have ever heard. It's getting deep folks I'm old but if I get the jab I can live to be as old as Methuselah. Whoopie we all going to die from something but the shot will save you if you are on a bicycle and a car runs over you. FCDC & JB
7 people like this.
Reply 38 - Posted by:
cheeflo 10/23/2021 10:24:21 AM (No. 955052)
T’was always this. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning.
This is meaningless.
3 people like this.
Reply 39 - Posted by:
Zigrid 10/23/2021 10:58:40 AM (No. 955090)
Is anyone listening to the CDC?... I think not...they lie about fatality numbers...they lie about china virus...they lie about it's origin...their poster child...dr. fauci is a laughing stock...and America has no reason to believe anything they say... WE do for ourselves as best WE can till WE can depose nervous nancy and her crew of gloom and boomers....working on getting rid of dickie Durbin of Illinois....one step at a time folks...
8 people like this.
Reply 40 - Posted by:
columba 10/23/2021 11:07:03 AM (No. 955101)
The CDC has also in its "wisdom" declared that Christianity is harmful to our country.
4 people like this.
Reply 41 - Posted by:
columba 10/23/2021 11:11:28 AM (No. 955104)
The headline states that people who have not received a COVID shot are less likely to die from a COVID shot than people who have not received a COVID shot.
4 people like this.
Reply 42 - Posted by:
Strike3 10/23/2021 11:22:27 AM (No. 955117)
The inferred logic of the headline seems to indicate that the vaccines are worse than useless. Americans are wise to avoid them. I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies have attempted to create something useful but reality indicates they did not but must attempt to recover their R&D money.
4 people like this.
Reply 43 - Posted by:
janjan 10/23/2021 12:49:03 PM (No. 955187)
Will they ever run out of fresh BS to feed the public? I’m sure unvaccinated gun owners shoot more people then the vaccinated.
3 people like this.
Reply 44 - Posted by:
WV.Hillbilly 10/23/2021 12:49:38 PM (No. 955188)
Unvaccinated are more likely to die of non-Covid causes AND more likely to die of Covid causes.
Take the shot and live forever!
3 people like this.
Reply 45 - Posted by:
Hermoine 10/23/2021 12:57:18 PM (No. 955202)
The study itself is nonsensical.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
Subsuburban 10/23/2021 12:57:52 PM (No. 955204)
And people who do not travel by air are more likely to die in non-airplane accidents. Yup. The intended meaning all depends on who is writing the headline. So, Catherine, you are absolutely correct. Mo' vaccinated, mo' dead of Covid19.
2 people like this.
Reply 47 - Posted by:
PrayerWarrior 10/23/2021 2:03:03 PM (No. 955268)
Read recently a person who was shot and died had Covid in their system. So the hospital said the person died of Covid. How interesting! Could it be that hospitals are getting money from the Feds if the person dies of "Covid." Follow the money.
3 people like this.
Reply 48 - Posted by:
jacksin5 10/23/2021 2:09:39 PM (No. 955274)
I f you factor in the murder rate amongst the un-jabbed POC's , it makes more sense.
2 people like this.
Reply 49 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 10/23/2021 3:47:49 PM (No. 955354)
The leading cause of death is… living! I get tired of garbage statistics. I work as a teacher, and I see plenty of garbage statistics. The standardized testing scores in our state are garbage. The standard of error is so far outside of even the most generous significance level that I have little confidence in anything produced. Likewise the NEW CDC/FDA/Fill-In-The-Blank alphabet agency. Remember, government accounting practices are voodoo. Government statistics are voodoo as well.
3 people like this.
Reply 50 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 10/23/2021 6:00:48 PM (No. 955491)
Quick! Somebody call Doctor Jill!
3 people like this.
Reply 51 - Posted by:
happywarrior 10/23/2021 6:28:18 PM (No. 955525)
From an agency that allows puppies to have their heads eaten by parasites while still alive! Yeah I said puppies!
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