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CNN analyst claims Ohio police
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Posted By: Ida Lou Pino, 4/25/2021 12:00:03 PM

A journalist and CNN analyst on Friday advanced the controversial claim that an Ohio police officer responding to a knife-wielding teenager should have shot her "in the leg" and should have considered not even using his gun to address the situation. April Ryan, a reporter with theGrio, made the argument—a common one among police critics—on Friday’s edition of HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher. The show’s panel was discussing in part the recent police-involved shooting of 16-year-old Ohio resident Ma’Khia Bryant, who was attempting to stab several other teenagers with a large butcher knife when a responding officer shot and killed her.


I agree 100% - - but - - which leg should the police officer have shot? Ma'Khia's right leg was behind her - - providing the forward thrust for the knife. But her front - - or left - - leg provided the balance needed to direct the knife to its target. If he shot the right leg - - the thrust still could have proceeded forward. If he shot the left leg - - the balance would have been disrupted - - but the force was still there. The solution may be to bring a bio-physicist along whenever a knife attack has to be stopped. At least - - that's what I recommend.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird 4/25/2021 12:02:42 PM (No. 766626)
The really crazy one was the bit (from someone who watches too much TV?) about shooting the knife out of her hand. The girl in pink was right behind her. Others were very close by. That is why they shoot for body mass. So behave!!!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Finally50 4/25/2021 12:10:09 PM (No. 766637)
I wish someone would shoot April Ryan in the leg.....but that's just me.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hershey 4/25/2021 12:11:42 PM (No. 766640)
Been watching too many movies, c'ome on man...there speaks a man who has never been confronted by any criminal...look up the 21' rule you wanker...
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Fasteddie 4/25/2021 12:11:50 PM (No. 766641)
Us old-timers know that the Lone Ranger always shot the gun/knife out of the Bad Guy's hand (and the Bad Guy was always a "guy".) And the LR would NEVER shoot someone in the back! It was Matt Helm who said "Yeah, he happened to be facing that way at the time."
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bighambone 4/25/2021 12:14:57 PM (No. 766646)
No doubt Biden agrees with Ryan, as during the 2020 presidential campaign, Biden advised that in use of deadly force incidents that the police should shoot perpetrators in the legs or not at all. Maybe the congressional Democrats will resolve that issue in their police reform bill?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 4/25/2021 12:22:40 PM (No. 766650)
The CNN "analyst" is full of beans, a dangerous fool. If you don't have a need to kill someone, you have no right to shoot them AT ALL. As a matter of settled law, if you were to say "I knew I didn't need to kill I shot him in the leg", you have admitted that you thought that you had no legal right to use deadly force, and therefore your protection under the special exception is erased and your shooting is now just a violent attack...that you had no justification for. You just said it yourself. And, a leg shot would, almost certainly, NOT have protected the victim from being stabbed. Numerous, common situations can be cited of violent individuals shot BY ACCIDENT in peripheral places, arms, legs, etc (when intending to shoot to kill, but failing) and having minimal to no effect on stopping them from continuing their violent attacks. Only the kind of deadly shock to the spine, heart or central nervous system that cuts off nerves or radically lowers blood pressure, which will typically kill someone, will also stop a violent, adrenaline-fuel raging attacker. And who knows what drugs this attacker might have been on, too? The CNN puke is a dangerous idiot, just like all the folks on CNN.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: volksford 4/25/2021 12:23:28 PM (No. 766652) aren't ready for your "close up" ! SHEESH !
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Reply 8 - Posted by: itsonlyme 4/25/2021 12:31:33 PM (No. 766666)
Shewt kneer da tow, shewt da oter tow iff kneedbe
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Reply 9 - Posted by: stablemoney 4/25/2021 12:33:41 PM (No. 766668)
Why didn't the officer use a stun gun? Why didn't the officer tackle her, and put his knee in her neck? Why didn't the officer call social services? Did the officer call his supervisor for a use of force authorization? When an officer applies to be a cop, they should find a lawyer at the same time, or have a plan to not do their job.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: HotRod 4/25/2021 12:37:20 PM (No. 766675)
April Ryan is ignorant. There is no way she could know if that would have prevented a stabbing. Shock and pain in the extremities takes a brief period of time to affect a person's action. The only way to guarantee the stopping of the attack was exactly what the officer did. Of course, April would rather have the stabbing occur, and the victim suffer- if not die. Did I say that April was ignorant? Anti-cop too....
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Reply 11 - Posted by: edgar 4/25/2021 12:39:54 PM (No. 766677)
"CNN Analyst Claims..." that is all I need to see to understand that I need not go any further. This is not a news organization.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: janjan 4/25/2021 12:51:49 PM (No. 766693)
Nothing like a completely useless’CNN analyst’ telling cops how to their job. I’ll bet they’re all really impressed.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: earlybird 4/25/2021 12:58:20 PM (No. 766703)
Re #6, I too wondered about drugs. Said to be a “peaceful girl”, the person we saw was a raging animal who came down that driveway and charged with a knife at first one and then another girl … There was nothing timid or peaceful about her rage, her display of her intentions in both her words (also caught on tape) and her actions. She intended to knife at least one, probably both of them. My questions: Why was this girl in the custody of the Franklin County Child Services, and living in a foster home. Her “lovng” mother showed up and had rather a lot to say. Hoped to have her daughter back with her soon. That usually involves a druggie mother who has to test clean (random tests, very short notice) in order to regain custody of their kid(s). Who was the tall black man in gray hoodie and jeans who involved himself in the scene, kicking the first girl Bryant had gone for while that girl lay on the ground, challenging one of the officers? Bryant’s father was said to have been there. Why? And was this man the father? If so, it takes little imagination to see where she got her violent side. If not, why did he involve himself?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Petronius 4/25/2021 1:24:24 PM (No. 766720)
You always shoot at center mass.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: LadyHen 4/25/2021 1:25:18 PM (No. 766722)
Oh hoho.... why even the leg? I am sure he could have just shot THE KNIFE right out of her hand, like the Matrix or Mission Impossible? I mean RL=movie and TV, right? /s My personal fav has been "Why didn't he just fire "warning shots" up into the air?" Like the physics of gravity don't work on bullets too or maybe the bullets have little parachutes? Real geniuses we are dealing with here.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: plaids 4/25/2021 1:35:44 PM (No. 766730)
Really? journalist, CNN and analyst, from the get go. Also, if a bullet strikes the major artery in the leg, the person can bleed out in minutes. Some of these so-called pundits made it sound like she was wielding a butter knife.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Words have Meaning 4/25/2021 1:36:36 PM (No. 766731)
This officer was an expert marksman. In western movies they would just shoot the knife out of her hand. In real life, they don't just go for the smallest target available. Too risky to innocent bystanders. They go for the biggest target, and shoot to kill. If you have see those videos that girl weighed over 400 lbs. Anything other than a kill shot she would not even have felt it. In the end, a girl's life was saved and a lunatic girl's life was ended. PS...Good luck with your lawyer, Benjamin Crump, and winning your lawsuit lottery.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: chance_232 4/25/2021 1:48:54 PM (No. 766740)
Considering the size of the young "girl" , hitting her in the leg wouldn't have slowed her down. Had he crippled her, they still would complain about excessive use of force. AND, the cop would probably be on hook to pay her medical bills and rehabilitation. AND, the tax payers would pony up millions in a settlement. Never wound a criminal. Killing them is cheaper.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: formerNYer 4/25/2021 2:04:01 PM (No. 766750)
if you shoot someone in the leg and hit the artery will cause a long slow painful bleed out which ultimately leads to death. April Ryan is another know nothing on CNN the world leader in know-nothings.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: lakerman1 4/25/2021 2:17:11 PM (No. 766757)
It has ben reported that the man who kicked the girl on the ground in the head, was the dead girl's father. One should ask why he did not intervene when his daughter knocked down the other obese girl. One should also ask why there was a birthday get together while the foster mother was at work. Or was the man supposed to be the adult supervising the get together? As to the usual demeanor of the dead girl, remember Mark Furman's words from the OJ Simpson trial. 'The first words out of a (deleted) mouth is always a lie.' Conferring sainthood on dead, bad people has become part of our social fabric. Travon Martin, Tamir Rice, Michael Brown, George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and now this girl. What message does that send to black children? Finally, the dispute was based on the failure of the dead girl's housecleaning skills. Was she the only foster child in the house? Was she the housekeeper?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 4/25/2021 2:24:37 PM (No. 766764)
Excellent questions, #13. Several police officer friends have told me that the most uncontrollably violent individuals that they have dealt with were on various street drugs, often not fully identified, but frequently found to be PCP. Apparently this stuff can push a person to violent, homicidal rages and give really shocking strength. Likely the person is predisposed to that sort of nutso, violent behavior but the drugs just brings down all the barriers and lets the inner savage out. One officer friend, who went on to work at the FBI, now retired, related a story of him arresting a small, skinny guy, perhaps 5'5" and 135 lbs for running around screaming at people and being naked in public. Clearly off his nut, and out of control. It took two police officer to initially tackle him and quickly get him cuffed and into the car. When he dropped the perp with the jailers in booking, and was leaving, he saw the guy running down the hall, screaming with two burly jailers chasing. My friend joined in and it finally took two officers and four jailers, all good sized men to pin and re-cuff this skinny little guy and get him into a holding cell, screaming, fighting, spitting all the way. The fact that he was naked and sweaty made it a lot more difficult. Clothes can be a good "handle". Later reports were "he got a bad batch of dope"....whatever that means, the officers suspected PCP, which seems to give pain immunity and extreme strength. Who knows what sort of bizarre junk was flowing through the blood stream of that raging, violent, screeching person who was just about to kill at least one, perhaps two people? The bottom line is that people like that, when armed, will almost certainly have to be shot, or they will kill someone. Especially when they are screaming that they intend to do just that.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: RUReadyY3K 4/25/2021 3:19:02 PM (No. 766814)
Maybe he should have shot her in the foot or her big toe (not sure right or left) and this could have deterred any potential stabbing.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Twinkle93 4/25/2021 3:33:20 PM (No. 766820)
Biden said during the campaign that police should shoot at the legs. Has Commissar Joe instructed the the secret service to shoot for the legs of anyone who attacks him?
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Pete on the Coast 4/25/2021 4:27:44 PM (No. 766856)
Actually, Joe Biden provided the answer when he told Jill that all she needed to do to get rid of a potential attacker was to fire a shotgun in the air as a warning shot. Why couldn't the cop have thought of that?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 4/25/2021 4:45:03 PM (No. 766863)
The femoral artery is in the leg. Then she would have bled to death while she was still stabbing the other girl.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: TexasHillCountry 4/25/2021 4:49:51 PM (No. 766867)
It has been mentioned, but rarely, what a great feat of controlled marksmanship the officer performed. To have hit the girl in black and yet to have missed the girl in pink--all while under stress and pumped with stress hormones--is an amazing accomplishment. And with shots in quick succession,mind you. Needless to say, a sad situation all around.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 4/25/2021 4:54:17 PM (No. 766870)
April Ryan is CNN's authority on firearm protocols? Ryan has no clue but that is a CNN characteristic. Sorry to disappoint Ms. Ryan but firearm usage is not a Roy Rogers western.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Hugh Akston 4/25/2021 7:03:16 PM (No. 766931)
I stopped reading at April Ryan.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Strike3 4/25/2021 8:03:47 PM (No. 766978)
I'm waiting for the video where somebody finally loses it, takes a run at Joe Biden and Joe screams at his SS people to shoot him in the leg.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Strike3 4/25/2021 8:06:44 PM (No. 766981)
I bought a batch of pistol targets a few days ago and not one of them had a picture of a leg on it.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: broken01 4/25/2021 10:15:15 PM (No. 767048)
Or in the immorally dumb words of future CNN analysis LeBron James why didn’t the cop try to su’due the girl with the knife.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: rytwng 4/25/2021 10:33:02 PM (No. 767058)
Hey April you twit, if someone comes at you with a knife your bad luck.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: MickTurn 4/25/2021 10:45:15 PM (No. 767073)
He did, too bad it went all the way up to her neck...
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Reply 34 - Posted by: SALady 4/25/2021 11:00:30 PM (No. 767082)
This CNN editorialist needs to go to a shooting range and see just how hard it is to hit a small target like a moving leg with a hand gun in the heat of the moment. Cops are trained to shoot at the large mass of the body in that type of situation, since there is a much better chance of stopping the criminal from killing someone, and much less chance of hitting an innocent bystander.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Rumblehog 4/25/2021 11:32:22 PM (No. 767091)
Hahaha... shoot much bucko? Try that when the action is moving at breakneck speed. A more ample target was that girl's butt. Now there was a target of opportunity!
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Reply 36 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 4/26/2021 2:23:49 AM (No. 767146)
All reporters should have to commit to a ride along with an LEO on a Saturday night in NYC.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: mifla 4/26/2021 6:16:47 AM (No. 767198)
You mean like in the movies?
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Iranian foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif claimed in recently leaked audio that John Kerry, when he was serving as Secretary of State during the Obama administration, informed him of more than 200 Israeli operations in Syria. Kerry has previously been accused of colluding with Iranian leaders to undermine the Trump administration. Kerry is now a part of the Biden administration and has a seat on the National Security Council as the special presidential envoy for climate. Kerry shocked Zarif by revealing that Israel had attacked Iranian targets in Syria more than 200 times, according to leaked audio obtained by The New York Times and other outlets.
Fifty-two passengers on one flight from
Delhi to Hong Kong test positive for
coronavirus after landing—despite ALL
presenting a negative test while boarding
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Posted by Ribicon 4/26/2021 12:08:57 PM Post Reply
At least 52 people from a single flight from Delhi to Hong Kong have tested positive for Covid-19, despite all passengers presenting a negative coronavirus test before boarding. All of the passengers who tested positive flew into Hong Kong on a flight from India's capital, run by Indian airline Vistara on April 4. Hong Kong as a whole has been recording fewer daily new infections than the total number detected on the flight, since it brought a fourth wave of infections under control in January. Meanwhile in India, the country's healthcare system is collapsing under a devastating second wave of coronavirus that is killing
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