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Another scientist challenges Darwin’s theory

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Posted By: Deety, 11/4/2019 5:23:48 AM

Dr. Marcos Eberlin, a physical chemist who specializes in spectrometry and supervises a large lab in Brazil that has produced hundreds of doctoral level scientists, is former president of the International Mass Spectrometry Foundation, author of more than 1000 research papers, and has written a book that makes a strong case for another nail in the coffin of Darwin’s theory of evolution of species. In the late 1960s when I went to medical school, the histologists (cellular level anatomists) had received a great new instrument, the electron microscope, that provided an order of magnitude improvement on studying and recording the microanatomy of living cells.

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Evolution, as an explanation for the origin of life on earth, will accompany "global warming" into the dustbin of history.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: jalo1951 11/4/2019 6:19:05 AM (No. 226517)
I don't have the answer to life but I always had trouble wrapping my brain around the THEORY that a slimy mass of cells crawled out of the ocean and poof evolved into every living thing on earth. How come there is no evolution to plant life? Some sprout pops out of the ground and turns into every plant found growing on earth. Agree that one day this will all be proven wrong.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MattMusson 11/4/2019 6:21:58 AM (No. 226519)
Darwin's theory does a good job of explaining adaptation which is just a haphazard version of selective breeding. It explains why we can breed tall horses, short horses, brown, black, silver and white horses. But, to explain the fossil record - we would have to be able to breed 6 legged horses or horses with wings. And, we can't do that.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: frew 11/4/2019 6:47:04 AM (No. 226536)
What happened in the primordial soup will probably forever remain a mystery. Regardless of the difficulties posed by gaps in the fossil record and the improbabilities of certain steps in evolution, the theory of evolution will remain a very useful tool in organizing biological knowledge.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 11/4/2019 6:51:32 AM (No. 226540)
You might like the late Tom Wolfe's "Kingdom of Speech." He's merciless on Darwin.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: rabidrepublican 11/4/2019 7:05:00 AM (No. 226550)
Same sentiment for the "Big Bang" theory.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: MOBeef4u 11/4/2019 7:27:25 AM (No. 226572)
Everyone who accepts much of the theory of evolution (yes, it doesn't explain everything, that's science) is not anti-religion. These are not mutually exclusive concepts. The Bible is not a science book and science is not concerned with matters of religious faith. For many scientist the more they learn about the universe the more religious they become.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Casper27 11/4/2019 7:42:20 AM (No. 226588)
Darwinians and evolutionists cannot answer the question of 'granite'. Do you like your beautifully inherently designed granite cabinet tops. Each one with a special design and under a microscope it is like it is a hand painted mural. Here you go....Granite makes up 84 percent of the earths crust. "The Earth's crust is an extremely thin layer of rock that makes up the outermost solid shell of our planet. In relative terms, it's thickness is like that of the skin of an apple." How did it get here through all the heat and melting and maintain design? It melts in 3.06 seconds and turns into gray blobs of gray ugly stone, like gravel. All that heat and melting, all those millions of years and granite is made intantly, with design. Read: Creations Tiny Mystery by Robert Gentry
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rivetjoint 11/4/2019 7:45:03 AM (No. 226590)
I remember a speaker considering the difficulties associated with the Big Bang theory and likening it to blowing up an old-style (pre-digital age) printing shop and expecting the Encyclopedia Britannica to be the result.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Casper27 11/4/2019 7:45:36 AM (No. 226593)
Granite melts in 3 minutes and .06 seconds.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bpl40 11/4/2019 7:49:06 AM (No. 226597)
It was Gandhi who said "Faith begins where intellect ends".
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Reply 11 - Posted by: chillijilli 11/4/2019 8:34:39 AM (No. 226645)
I've never understood why evolutionists feel they need to stop the evolution of the climate.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: pilot222 11/4/2019 8:36:16 AM (No. 226647)
For those who believe no explanation is needed, for those who don’t no explanation can be given. Faith is a gift freely given by God, but with free will you can take it or leave it.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Quigley 11/4/2019 8:53:37 AM (No. 226667)
I don’t know why it’s called the “theory” of evolution. If it was a theory it would predict some things. It would explain some things, like how life began from lifeless atoms or molecules, like HOW a sea creature evolved to a land creature (details about how lungs developed, how the change from gill breathing to lung breathing was accomplished in detail). But it’s just a black box, worms go in, rabbits come out. So it’s not even a theory. More like a thought in search of enough evidence to allow it to evolve into a theory. The Chesterton quote above is completely unassailable in it’s removal of the thought from serious consideration.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: gone2pot 11/4/2019 9:03:20 AM (No. 226681)
My faith in a designer is reasonable. I don't have enough faith to believe in random occurrences due to quantum mechanics over a mere 14 billion years of random activity to make a perfectly designed planet for life, let alone perfect digital reproduction with analog parts in bacteria and cells. If you want to believe it, that's fine. There is literally zero scientific evidence that random events violated the second law of thermodynamics AND the science of random mathematics and the science of probability mathematics in exactly the right order repeatedly in just 14 billion years to get to life with unimaginable complexity in its cell structures. Just using probability mathematics SCIENCE, it would take between 10 to the 64 to 10 to the 120 years to get to a goldy locks planet with a moon in exactly the right orbit and mass, then randomly generate digitally reproduced cells. SCIENCE provides evidence that the universe is no where near old enough. Hence, there are several pieces of evidence that suggest believing a designer created things is quite reasonable. I have faith that it is the case. If you do not, then be warm and be fed and let's debate it scientifically but please don't point your Flying Spaghetti Monster ad hominem at me. Why? Because if the quanta really can create an infinite number of universes per Dr Leonard Susskind and Steven Hawking, thereby rendering any anthropic universe a common thing, there is necessarily at least one of the infinite universes controlled by a Flying Spaghetti Monster you use to make fun of believers in God, and you better hope this ain't the one. It might be offended by your colander hats.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: hammondb3 11/4/2019 9:16:25 AM (No. 226700)
The evidence of a PLAN for life is found in many of life's processes, but none of them are better in proving design than the process of reproduction. Reproduction is something NOT required until some point in time in the future. It is a process that is completely 'forward-looking'. The very first living thing(s) all had the ability to reproduce and no environmental stresses could mindlessly coax that ability, perhaps life's most COMPLEX ability, out of mere random set of molecules. How, or why could a mindless Universe just HAPPEN upon a workable genetic code from scratch sufficient to support reproduction? Mostly... WHY? Reproduction is forward-looking and a purely material Universe does NOT have eyes.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Casper27 11/4/2019 9:19:28 AM (No. 226704)
Plus, I will take the intellect of Christ Jesus (Yeshua Ha-Mashiah) over Ghandi any day. I like the intellect of Sadducian Rabbi Saul who became Paul and all his words on faith since he had the entire Torah memorized. "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the 'evidence' of things not seen'.... The intellect of man is base on myth, whereas faith is the evidence of truth and fact.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Franz 11/4/2019 9:21:19 AM (No. 226709)
Darwin was well aware of “mutation” which can produce variations, some of which are quite striking, in the same species. He also noted features (eyes, ears, etc.) common to multiple species indicating a linkage. He then theorized (guessed) that mutation or a process like mutation was creating a variation that resulted in a new species. This he called “evolution.” Both mutation and evolution occurred within organisms. For this to be true, evolution requires linking organisms. Ever since Darwin published his theory, people have looked for the missing links. Two observations have been made. Since then, no missing links have been found and no new species have evolved. An alternate explanation for different species is that they were created by an intelligence external to the species. Just as an architect creates buildings with common features (windows, doors, etc.), the linkage is not a physical one between buildings but in the intelligence that created them.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: msts 11/4/2019 9:24:25 AM (No. 226714)
My kids believe in God. They don't believe in the Theory of Evolution because it doesn't provide enough explanation. In order to believe there is no God, and therefore, no plan, no guidance, we are left with coincidence. Its all just coincidence. But even if it is coincidence, the Theory states evolution is the effect of some cause. So how come there haven't been any more? The answer is "its something over time, millions of years". Got it, but an example given was a moth that developed black color for the smog and fog from burning coal in London. That was a hundred year timeline. So how come I dont see any new species? Last, without science the Book Of Genesis narrates the formation of the Earth. In exact order. Huh?!!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: F16 guy 11/4/2019 9:25:23 AM (No. 226717)
What this all boils down to is a "god of the gaps" argument. 1. The Theory of Evolution tries to explain evolution 2. Some say that one theory is wrong 3. Instead of seeking out further truth, we give credit to a "god." 4. We stop looking for further proof. Historically, every time gods of the gaps theory was enacted, it was proven false, and scientific theories prevailed. What makes one think God is the answer now, explaining in poor detail how evolution exists? https://www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/essays/2005-11-the-perimeter-of-ignorance.php One can accept god into their lives without giving credit to him every time we can't explain one of life's enigma's.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: NotaBene 11/4/2019 9:36:57 AM (No. 226730)
Natural selection had a very long time to generate so many forms most beautiful. The creator started it with a Big Bang and it then evolved. Gene sequencing gives us now a detailed roadmap of how species evolved. No point in being Luddites.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: hammondb3 11/4/2019 9:44:35 AM (No. 226736)
22, I just do the math. The probabilities that GOD created life from nothing are the exact inverse of the probabilities that something ELSE created life from nothing. So far, all of the world's brightest and best have not even come CLOSE to creating life from raw materials. Oh... they have made certain proteins that are highly complex, and they have tinkered with existing components of life that they could presently never dream of making 'from scratch', but to date, all of the most intelligent scientists who have brought their collective talent to bear on the problem of first causes of life have come up empty. Should they one day SUCCEED... then that would just prove that it takes intelligence to do this sort of thing... Finally, to say that the only legitimate answers to the mysteries of life can come from man is perhaps one of the most arrogant things I have heard in my 62 years.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: frankdn 11/4/2019 9:54:43 AM (No. 226747)
You will never change my mind about this until you present to me an argument that *I* find convincing. What convinces you does not matter.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Bohallx 11/4/2019 10:09:33 AM (No. 226767)
When a star is born, at one of the earlier stages in its formation, it spews huge volumes of WATER out at it's poles. That water is under immense pressure and assumes the molecular form of trillions of double-helix molecules. From that point on it's just a question of replacing hydrogen and oxygen atoms with other stuff.... which does lead to considerations of self-assembly having a place ~ maybe the only place ~ in further discussions of what's up with the stars.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: paral04 11/4/2019 10:21:34 AM (No. 226783)
The problem with the so called Darwin Theory is that it does not meet the scientific requirement for a theory. It is a notion at best.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: davew 11/4/2019 11:01:37 AM (No. 226826)
Death is unnecessary in creationist theory but essential to natural selection. Many complex looking processes like planetary motion were attributed to intentional causes in the past until we understood the laws of physics better. The laws of natural selection follow the free energy principle described by Karl Friston and would have been beyond Darwin's comprehension.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: kono 11/4/2019 11:12:37 AM (No. 226841)
Science and Religion are partners locked in a dance around mystery in mutual pursuit of truth and understanding, not antitheses straddling a single track on a collision course in some metaphysical game of "chicken". But 'science' has led us to claim there is no difference between man and woman, how can we expect it to discern the distinction and relationship between faith and reason? As a side note, a phrase in #19 derailed the train of thought: Who on earth is or was "Sadducian Rabbi Saul who became Paul"? Certainly not Saint Paul, nee Saul of Tarsus, who quite unambiguously identified himself (and demonstrated himself) as having been a leading Pharisee, not a Sadducee.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Chicagoan 11/4/2019 11:14:24 AM (No. 226843)
Even Darwin doubted his own theory and some of his contemporaries couldn't hold with him. Please read: Darwin's Doubt: The Explosive Origin of Animal Life and the Case for Intelligent Design Book by Stephen C. Meyer
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Reply 28 - Posted by: BRDG 11/4/2019 11:22:10 AM (No. 226852)
Like evolution, gravity is also a theory. They exist, but the exact explanation of how they work can not be 100% proven. I.E. as more evidence came to light, Darwin's gradual theory of evolution was modified to pinpoint evolution. One mutation brings advantage, not disadvantage. They are impossible to prove. So scientists gather evidence and attempt to refine OR disprove.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: snakeoil 11/4/2019 11:23:55 AM (No. 226857)
Back when I was in high school if someone said they didn't believe in evolution they were classified as an ignorant hayseed hick who just fell off a turnip truck. So peer pressure resulted in many of us embracing evolution. Now that I've aged I realize that anything that happened before recorded history (around 5 k) is pure speculation. So believe whatever you want to believe. Your opinion is as good as anyone else. Stripped of all the details it comes down to are we here for a reason or is it just random chance. Which is the most believable? If life began randomly why don't we see it happening now?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Trapper 11/4/2019 11:57:58 AM (No. 226894)
Kicking out the final leg of the three legged stool of 19th Century crackpots (Marx, Darwin, Freud) that produced and supported 20th Century "modernism" and all its post- progeny and utterly ruined the 20th Century. The combined 20th Century casualty count of their follies is breath taking. Freud replaced by a prescription pad, Marx replaced by Jefferson, and Darwin replaced by real scientists. It's a good start.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Skeptical1 11/4/2019 12:01:09 PM (No. 226898)
I think we should cut Darwin some slack. He was trying to explain the fossil record, which was kind of a new discovery in his time. Not the origin of life, or the mechanisms of variation and inheritance. Really, natural selection seems like an obvious idea, given the state of knowledge at the time. But Darwin acknowledged that his theory needed defending. The intense dogmatism seems to have come later, with neo-Darwinist thinkers like Dawkins, who elevated the role of chance (Darwin, after all, thought it was obvious that some acquired traits could be passed on) and claimed that their theory was complete. When thinkers like Eberlin challenge the neo-Darwinists, many see it as a contest between religious and scientific thinking, so their emotions get worked up. Of course it is, in a way, since it suggests that science has a little more work to do. But, when you think about it, that should be a pleasurable discovery no matter what your belief system is.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Trav 11/4/2019 1:24:33 PM (No. 226971)
All material changes have an immediate material cause, and that's the part of "intelligent design" that gets lost in the shuffle. I'm no scientist, but I've been involved with language throughout my very long life, and the closer one gets to the precise meanings within the language of the anti-evolutionists the more the concepts dissolve into pixels. And the scientists who challenge "Darwinism" never quite seem to be actual evolutionary biologists. Religion has no place whatever in this discussion, and I wish there were a movement, "Conservatives Against Intelligent Design."
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Reply 33 - Posted by: WesternTradition 11/4/2019 2:04:27 PM (No. 226997)
Marcos Eberlin continues the opposition to Complete Darwinism along with Michael Behe, David Berlinsky and Stephen Meyer. Darwinism is good for very limited changes in species, but not much more.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Casper27 11/4/2019 2:36:52 PM (No. 227022)
No. 35 Religion is not about faith. Faith is scientific. Scripture is intellect in action. When it moves it burns. When God's word is read it imparts faith. You can accept it and believe it or reject it. It is up to you. Jesus Christ (Yeshua Ha-Mashichai) at age 12 lectured the Sanhedrin in the Temple with Saul present and baffled them. It is not about religion it is about truth and facts, not myths. Remember these famous intellect words "You shall not surely die"...........................Now, get that living will ready. It is a sure thing. All these comments are very appreciated and respected as to their sincerity. Good folks. Good Americans.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: little guy 11/4/2019 3:45:34 PM (No. 227070)
Just another proof that Almighty God ... the infinite Unmoved Mover ... in His infinite wisdom ... deliberately hid His tracks so well that He knew man would always be confused. However, He has given us enough signs to see His design while also giving us the choice to be confused. Therefore, for those who believe, no further proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, well ... no proof will every satisfy them.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: Rumblehog 11/4/2019 4:28:19 PM (No. 227098)
Evolution has also never explained an ugly caterpillar's metamorphism into the beautiful butterfly. The DNA changes completely, along many other things, which goes hand in hand with the fact that evolution attempts to explain "hardware" without explaining how the "software" got there. The Bombardier Beetle can't be explained, since it can shoot a jet of caustic liquid at predators, blinding them, allowing escape and survival. It mixes two liquids from separate bladders in exact quantities in a mixing chamber which explodes when combined. Not only that, but it has synchronized metering valves that pulse hundreds of times a second, which allow it to remain in position and not be blown away by the force of big explosion. No way such complexity could evolve simultaneously, independently chemically or physically, and on its own. Darwinism fears the lowly Honey Bee, which can build complex hexagonal hives, has a complex social structure, navigation and communication skills, and makes three substances to totally unique to them... Honey, Beeswax, and Saliva. Honey, because it NEVER spoils : Beeswax because it's the only organically produced totally hydrophobic material on earth (even epoxy absorbs water): and their Saliva because it's amazing anti-bacterial properties slathered on the chamber walls protect the larvae from disease. What "random force" that caused all these things could be so marvelous? s/o
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Bluefindad 11/4/2019 5:27:44 PM (No. 227148)
I'm a biologist turned programmer. Please, anyone who wants to understand the degree of complexity that comprises life - take a graduate level course in embryology. The programming required to transform the single, fertilized egg cell into differentiated tissues and form is astounding. Chesterton is absolutely right in his intuitive assessment of the reasoning power of evolutionists.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: franq 11/4/2019 7:32:21 PM (No. 227233)
Those who reject Creationism do so by choice, not by evidence.
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The year in movies was like the ultimate Mom Facebook Page. So many reunions. So many updates on friends from long ago, so many surprising next chapters in so many lives — and so many heartfelt goodbyes to loved ones who passed away. From “Avengers: Endgame” to “Toy Story 4,” from “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” to “Mary Poppins Returns,” from “Frozen II” to “It Chapter Two,” from the “Downton Abbey” movie to “John Wick: Chapter 3 — Parabellum,” from “Terminator: Dark Fate” to “Rambo: Last Blood” to “Glass” — the 2019 BSU (Big Screen Universe) was dominated by sequels and reboots and spinoffs and curtain calls.
Giuliani: ‘Saint Marie Yovanovitch’ Quashed
Ukraine Probe Into Missing $5.3 Billion in
Foreign Aid
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Posted by earlybird 12/26/2019 1:32:50 PM Post Reply
Rudy Giuliani alleged Monday that former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch “quashed” a corruption investigation into the disappearance of foreign aid because the Obama Administration was funneling the money to non-governmental organizations run by left-wing billionaire George Soros. Giuliani, President Trump’s personal attorney, recently returned from a fact-finding mission in Ukraine, and discussed his findings in an interview with Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk for his podcast. The former mayor of New York City told Kirk that in 2017, the Ukrainian Accounting Authority did a study which revealed that $5.3 billion in foreign aid during the Obama/Biden years was not properly accounted for. So the agency started an investigation
Subway graffiti is making
a resurgence in NYC
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Posted by Ribicon 12/26/2019 12:29:00 AM Post Reply
Graffiti is on the express track back into New York’s subway landscape, MTA data obtained by The Post shows. After holding at around 200 markings in stations and on trains per year in the first half of the decade, the number tripled to 619 in 2018, and sits at 537 as of Dec. 18 this year, the figures show.(Snip) Each major hit lightens the MTA’s already scraped-clean pockets, with the agency spending a total $348,000 so far this year to clean the 285 majorly bombed trains, data shows. Sometimes categorized among major hits is political graffiti, which is also on the rise.
Japan executes foreigner
for first time in a decade
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Posted by LittleHoodedMonk 12/26/2019 12:06:15 PM Post Reply
Japan has executed a Chinese national who was found guilty of murdering a family of four, putting to death a foreigner for the first time in a decade. Wei Wei, a 40-year-old language student who studied in Japan, was hanged after over 16 years on death row for the murders and robbery. Justice minister Masako Mori said Wei was executed at Fukuoka detention centre on the Japanese island of Kyushu on Thursday. He was convicted of robbing and killing a married couple and their two children at their home in Fukuoka in 2003. (Snip) Amnesty International said the hanging showed Japan's "shocking lack of respect for the right to life."
Police Wasted £1.5 Million on Electric
Cars That Can’t Chase Criminals
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Posted by earlybird 12/26/2019 10:18:36 AM Post Reply
Police forces in the United Kingdom have squandered over a million pounds on electric cars that are incapable of chasing criminals or performing emergency services because the eco-friendly vehicles are too slow and take too long to charge. A freedom of information request found that police in the UK have spent £1.49 million on 448 green cars and vans. However, the actual cost of the eco-police fleets is likely much higher as many districts have not reported their purchases. The official police reports admit that the battery-powered cars are incapable of fulfilling police duties such as chasing criminals or handling emergency response situations and often run out of power before a shift
Undocumented woman marks a
year inside Maryland church
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Posted by Pluperfect 12/26/2019 4:57:51 AM Post Reply
Next to Rock Creek in Bethesda, Maryland, sits a six-acre church campus shrouded by old cedar trees. For a year and two weeks, this has been Rosa Gutierrez Lopez's home, sanctuary and site of confinement. This year, for the second time, it is where she will spend Christmas. Gutierrez Lopez, 41, was the first undocumented immigrant in the Washington area to seek protection from deportation at a house of worship - one of the "sensitive location" categories where Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are discouraged from conducting enforcement activities.
How power shutoffs are
changing California's way of life
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Posted by StormCnter 12/26/2019 11:46:30 AM Post Reply
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Joe Fatula left the Bay Area in 2017 wanting to settle down in the mountains somewhere quiet. He chose Colfax, a small town rich with Gold Country history, and became mayor last year with the goal of boosting business on Main Street. But his sanctuary turned apocalyptic in October. Every gas station, grocery store and restaurant closed due to massive power shutoffs as part of the state's efforts to avoid a major wildfire. The mayor found himself loaning out his personal pickup truck and RV, which have built-in generators, to the town's 2,000 residents as they scrambled to save food in their refrigerators,
Dems Target Tulsi 16 replies
Posted by Deety 12/26/2019 4:53:42 AM Post Reply
Former congressman and Hawaii governor Neil Abercrombie, the Hawaii Tribune-Herald reports, has called for Democrat presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard to resign “the sooner the better” following her vote of “present” on the articles of impeachment against President Trump. Abercombie is co-chair for the campaign of Kai Kahele, a Democrat running against Gabbard, and the former governor cited Gabbard’s missing votes “on everything” as the reason for his resignation call. On the other hand, fallout from the call has focused on Gabbard’s impeachment stand. “Throughout my life, whether through serving in the military or in Congress, I’ve always worked to do what is in the best interests of our country,”
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