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Toilet paper is getting less
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Posted By: NorthernDog, 7/6/2019 9:51:39 PM

Toilet paper – the one product that the majority of us use just once and flush away – is becoming less sustainable, according to research. Analysis from Ethical Consumer magazine found that major brands were using less recycled paper than in 2011, while only five of the nine major supermarkets (the Co-op, Morrisons, Sainsbury’s, Tesco and Waitrose) offered an own-brand recycled toilet paper. The large-scale use of virgin paper contributes to unnecessary deforestation. The UK uses 1.3m tonnes of tissue a year, according to the Confederation of Paper Industries, with the average British consumer reportedly getting through 127 rolls every


Article ends by hinting we're going to have to adopt alternative methods.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Northcross 7/6/2019 9:58:06 PM (No. 116124)
No problem. Just save the soiled paper and use the other side.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: scottj 7/6/2019 10:04:37 PM (No. 116128)
The one product that the MAJORITY of us use just once? You mean some people use it multiple times and then flush it? Do you live in Venezuela?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Omen55 7/6/2019 10:05:10 PM (No. 116129)
Just recycle all the newspapers from fake news. That will be enough for years.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: JHHolliday 7/6/2019 10:24:52 PM (No. 116141)
The newspaper I worked for many years ago used toilet paper made from recycled newsprint. It was slick and it took lot to get a decent wipe. This was over fifty years ago and it was used to cut costs and had nothing to do with ‘sustainability’. The employees started bringing and hoarding their own private ‘stash’ of TP which was enough to get the boss to furnish some decent paper for us.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: LadyHen 7/6/2019 10:32:27 PM (No. 116144)
Is this the next thing the progressive elites will be going after? Not that they would ever give up their toilet paper. Denial of essentials is only for us serfs. Light bulbs, freon, plastic bags, straws, and now toilet paper. Anything to hurt everyday working folks. I think it is high time the people stand up and say "No!" Their "Let them eat cake" attitude needs to have some real life consequences. Tar, feathers, and maybe worse.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Faithfully 7/6/2019 10:34:32 PM (No. 116146)
Idiot children who have never used an outhouse or wiped with newspapers are preaching to us. When the power goes out, and it will, these kids will be in for a shock. They won't know whether to poop or go blind.
34 people like this.

Reply 7 - Posted by: Shadow722 7/6/2019 10:34:41 PM (No. 116147)
"Article ends by hinting we're going to have to adopt alternative methods." No, not the Three Seashells????
15 people like this.

Reply 8 - Posted by: jimincalif 7/6/2019 10:40:01 PM (No. 116151)
First they came for your plastic bags, then they came for your straws, now they come for your toilet paper!
42 people like this.

Reply 9 - Posted by: DeplorableVet 7/6/2019 10:47:53 PM (No. 116154)
I'd suggest that liberals who want to save the environment use 80 grit sandpaper. You can wash it out and reuse it multiple times, and since your butt is always hurt anyway, you won't notice the difference.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Vesicant 7/6/2019 10:49:04 PM (No. 116156)
127 rolls per year? That's one roll every 2.8 days. Either the rolls are very small or the Brits are very busy.
17 people like this.

Reply 11 - Posted by: web 7/6/2019 10:53:52 PM (No. 116158)
We must all follow Barbara Streisand's example, and use only one square of toilet paper. No more, no less. Or perhaps she uses rose petals, and it is only we peasants who must use one square. I don't really care about being an Ethical Consumer.
16 people like this.

Reply 12 - Posted by: JediJerry 7/6/2019 10:54:05 PM (No. 116159)
Simple just split the two ply into separate rolls. Of course this is all related to man made climate change right? Alternative method is just use some leaves off the nearest tree or come up with cloth toilet paper like cloth baby diapers. Use it, put it in the pail and launder when full. This will lead to a new industry like work uniforms and diaper services.
4 people like this.

Reply 13 - Posted by: slab 7/6/2019 11:00:37 PM (No. 116165)
Culturally appropriating my favorite British word here. Balderdash. Logging companies plant more trees than they harvest. Trees are a crop just like corn or wheat, except for the timeline. Old growth 'virgin wood' - whatever that is - accounts for less than 10% of paper production, and that is mostly scrap and inferior leftovers from the lumber industry. If the Guardian still buys newsprint to smear their biased ink on, they know this article is......balderdash.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Historybuff 7/6/2019 11:14:45 PM (No. 116175)
It’s not like the material grows on trees! /s
22 people like this.

Reply 15 - Posted by: jjs 7/6/2019 11:19:38 PM (No. 116178)
I didn't think Muslims used toilet paper?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: bighambone 7/6/2019 11:21:48 PM (No. 116179)
Since the old wiping standby, the Sears catalog no longer exists, they will probably have to fallback to the really ancient corncob wiping era? Never fear as there are a lot of corncobs out there.
13 people like this.

Reply 17 - Posted by: watashiyo 7/6/2019 11:30:20 PM (No. 116189)
Just train the dog to walk between your legs. And their furs? They'll lick it off.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Finally50 7/6/2019 11:40:35 PM (No. 116191)
#11, i think that is Sheryl Crow who advocates for 1 square of toilet paper. No available information on Barbara's toilet paper use.
15 people like this.

Reply 19 - Posted by: anonymous 7/6/2019 11:41:41 PM (No. 116193)
Before long, we'll be forced to go back to using fronds. In any case, I wish these magazines and organizations would leave us alone. They're putting their noses into all sorts of things that are private. From how we dispose of our waste in the kitchen to how we dispose of it in other aspects of our lives, they want to be there with their rules and regulations. If they don't wish to use toilet paper, don't use toilet paper. Just stop telling me what I should be using.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: texaspast 7/6/2019 11:44:40 PM (No. 116194)
This has to be written by people who never lived in the country. REAL country. Here in East Texas (and all across the South all the way to the Atlantic), the problem is how to keep the forest at bay! Fly across what used to be the Great Southern Forest - you will see that it is STILL the Great Southern Forest. 80 years ago you would have seen much more open land raising crops. Now the crop is trees. You kill the market for trees, you will not have the trees. You will have plowed crops. Only the ignorant (willfully or otherwise) can't understand that. All that great forested land in East Texas used to be cleared for cotton, corn and other cash crops. Now the landowners can leave the land in timber and harvest it every 20 years or so. There are many more trees in the U.S. than there were 100 years ago.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Rivetjoint 7/6/2019 11:50:08 PM (No. 116199)
Might be an untapped market in the UK for those Japanese combo toilet/bidet fixtures, but then someone's bound to complain about the increased use of water.
15 people like this.

Reply 22 - Posted by: cThree 7/7/2019 12:04:23 AM (No. 116207)
Poop less. How else would true liberals address this? Extol constipation, encourage those Brits to keep those cheeks pursed tight an extra day. I'm sure the lord mayor of London already has the plan! Meanwhile, someone told me today, "I saw a sign that said 'Try our toilet brushes!' So I bought one. But after a couple of weeks I went right back to toilet paper."
12 people like this.

Reply 23 - Posted by: Trigger2 7/7/2019 12:27:16 AM (No. 116219)
Hmmm, alternative methods...I guess that means use your hand, squat in a farm field growing food, or search out leaves from trees and use them.
3 people like this.

Reply 24 - Posted by: NotaBene 7/7/2019 1:15:45 AM (No. 116238)
Sorry, I will continue using soft paper. I am an American. They tell me that Socialists in Venezuela would like to wipe like US.
5 people like this.

Reply 25 - Posted by: DVC 7/7/2019 1:16:57 AM (No. 116239)
Bull. This is a lie.
2 people like this.

Reply 26 - Posted by: snakeoil 7/7/2019 1:25:09 AM (No. 116242)
Amazing. Over two dozen comments and no one mentioned the Sears and Roebuck catalogue. This is one item I don't try to save money on. The plusher the better. When Plugs goes belly up in politics he can become the new Mr. Whiffle.
3 people like this.

Reply 27 - Posted by: BRDG 7/7/2019 1:27:17 AM (No. 116245)
My dad was so cheap he bought half-ply toilet tissue.
4 people like this.

Reply 28 - Posted by: kennedylaw 7/7/2019 1:38:42 AM (No. 116252)
Paper is not made from old growth forests. Paper is made from trees that people plant as crops. The less paper people use, the less trees farmers plant. Trying to conserve paper is like trying to conserve wheat or corn.
15 people like this.

Reply 29 - Posted by: M2 7/7/2019 6:48:05 AM (No. 116315)
Calling Sheryl Crowe.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 7/7/2019 7:12:04 AM (No. 116323)
There are plenty of copies of old New York Times laying around, I imagine.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: 3XALADY 7/7/2019 7:16:35 AM (No. 116331)
@6 No Sears or Montgomery Wards catalogs. Now what will they use? Corn cobs? If our TP gets any smaller or thinner .....
3 people like this.

Reply 32 - Posted by: franq 7/7/2019 7:18:07 AM (No. 116332)
Just another attempt to foment civil unrest...Yep, who could forget Sheryl "One Square" Crow? Having just had to buy a new washer, when the 3 year old "high efficiency" (Maytag, no less) puked a transmission spline, I can imagine the DOE would love to have another appliance to regulate: the bidet. Cool, warm, extra soil...regulate the water usage. Should require at least 500 pages of prose. Yay!
4 people like this.

Reply 33 - Posted by: southernboy 7/7/2019 7:33:13 AM (No. 116349)
And the price of pulpwood across the South is so low it doesn't pay to harvest it.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Bur Oak 7/7/2019 7:46:04 AM (No. 116353)
Guardian doesn't seem to be concerned about the sustainability of the Drax power plant. To power it, 7.5 million tonnes of wood chips are imported from USA and Canada and burned.
4 people like this.

Reply 35 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 7/7/2019 8:05:43 AM (No. 116374)
Oh great. Another leftist cause. This is just another way for the left to control people. GTH.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: chance_232 7/7/2019 8:34:45 AM (No. 116407)
ARGH........................ We don't "deforest" for paper. Pine trees are literally a cash crop. Pine trees are literally grown like corn, and in row after row, acre after acre, square mile after square mile. You plant the trees, then you harvest the trees and then repeat the process.
11 people like this.

Reply 37 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 7/7/2019 8:37:34 AM (No. 116410)
This article combined with the news that the answer to the "climate crisis" is to plant millions of trees....I see where this is going. Soon it will be forbidden to cut a tree. Paper of all kinds will become impossible to acquire. There will be back alley toilet paper from China made from leaves coated with toxic chemicals. ~
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Reply 38 - Posted by: padiva 7/7/2019 8:38:01 AM (No. 116411)
But make sure that the illegals in detention centers have plenty of TP.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: bigfatslob 7/7/2019 8:44:04 AM (No. 116418)
Here's an easy solution ban all newspaper and use the paper to make more toilet paper. Man does not need fake news printed on paper but does need toilet paper. What's wrong with this picture. Some more hard hitting research from the UK.
7 people like this.

Reply 40 - Posted by: hershey 7/7/2019 9:26:33 AM (No. 116478)
Maybe they would be happy if we went back to leaves and corn cobs like Medieval days...there is NOTHING that leftists/progs/ecoweenies like....
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Reply 41 - Posted by: hershey 7/7/2019 9:29:43 AM (No. 116480)
Ah it's ok folks, there is a new standard to replace the Sears catalog...there are plenty of unsold Obama/Clinton/lefty books left to use...
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Reply 42 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 7/7/2019 9:36:39 AM (No. 116487)
#13 stole my comment. Lumber in the United States is a sustainable crop. The lumber companies replant all the areas the cut and over time will come back to that spot when the trees mature. Since the bulk of our lumber is pine and pine grow very quickly. Regarding recycling. If they made it easier for the general population to do and didn't charge for it you may get a lot more participation. Also, it was Sheryl Crow's quote.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Daisymay 7/7/2019 9:42:23 AM (No. 116495)
When I was a child, visiting my grandparents on the Farm, we had to use the Outhouse (back in the Apple Orchard.) The Trusty Sears Catalog was our "toilet paper" back then. So, we're in trouble now if they take away our toilet paper. No more Cagalogs available. Sears and Penny's both did away with them years ago. If I had know.....I would have saved them!! Now I will have to stockpile Toilet paper like I did with Light Bulbs!
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Reply 44 - Posted by: Peaches 7/7/2019 9:49:23 AM (No. 116502)
#9 wins the Internet today!
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Reply 45 - Posted by: red1066 7/7/2019 9:52:55 AM (No. 116506)
I don't get the sustainable in this. Are we going to start recycling toilet paper? How exactly would that work, and what brain malfunction would one need to do this. I'm certainly not going to start saving used toilet paper for recycling day pickup.
2 people like this.

Reply 46 - Posted by: cobieone 7/7/2019 10:23:38 AM (No. 116541)
It is amazing, isn't it? People are more educated than ever, yet are more ignorant than ever. Seems many people have no idea what the forestry industry is, no clue about the Earth's water table, etc. Unbelievably stupid. We are not running out of resources people!! Educate yourself! I looked at Rebecca Smithers' profile and, of course, she is the perfect picture of a leftist elite.
2 people like this.

Reply 47 - Posted by: JackBurton 7/7/2019 10:41:24 AM (No. 116557)
Plant trees. They're a 'renewable' resource.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 7/7/2019 10:41:51 AM (No. 116558)
".....we know that there are lots of perfectly hygienic alternatives to using paper-based products." Really???? Like the nasty water hoses hanging next to the toilets in the Muslim country I recently visited? Or probably the squeeze bottle flecked with feces found in the bathroom of a Muslim restaurant that flunked a recent inspection. Maybe we should all retrofit our bathrooms with bidets at a cost of thousands of dollars, or use leaves like they do it Africa. Why must we give up everything that keeps us clean and well in order to appease the enviro nazis? I'll be even "one sheet" Sheryl Crow doesn't practice what she wants the rest of us to do.
2 people like this.

Reply 49 - Posted by: ginadee 7/7/2019 11:05:15 AM (No. 116586)
I use what I need, flush and say "bye bye".
2 people like this.

Reply 50 - Posted by: Arby 7/7/2019 11:12:33 AM (No. 116597)
OK, before AOC gets to this issue . . . someone tell the joke about the 'single sheet' method.
1 person likes this.

Reply 51 - Posted by: ROLFNader 7/7/2019 11:32:20 AM (No. 116626)
As a child , I remember using the Sears catalogue . Guess I'll have to figure out a way to use their website now..
1 person likes this.

Reply 52 - Posted by: Strike3 7/7/2019 12:14:15 PM (No. 116673)
What is this, a campaign to do it the muslim way? All you need is a flexible left hand and some water.
0 people like this.

Reply 53 - Posted by: Califedup 7/7/2019 12:21:09 PM (No. 116685)
Anyone else ever heard of the suspiciously named "Ethical Consumer" magazine which is named as the source for this article on butt wipe? The eco commies move from item to item on the conveniences of modern life in effort to exert control over every aspect of our lives including our bodily functions. Now it's toilet paper. Sounds like a load of crap.
1 person likes this.

Reply 54 - Posted by: thewarden 7/7/2019 12:39:56 PM (No. 116705)
Out of my cold, dead (but clean) hands...make my day.
0 people like this.

Reply 55 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 7/7/2019 1:08:49 PM (No. 116742)
B.S. (No pun intended.) There are actually more trees on earth than there were two hundred years ago. In fact, in my area the "Forest Service" is intentionally destroying trees by the millions, by fire and machine. They say that there are too many of them, that trees are an invasive species, and must be removed so that grasses and cactus can better thrive.
2 people like this.

Reply 56 - Posted by: ZeldaFitzg 7/7/2019 2:14:21 PM (No. 116766)
I grew up on a cotton farm in Northeast Texas, in a big white farmhouse built in 1906. The outhouse, which was a two seater, was behind the old chicken house. We used real toilet paper, which was dropped in a tow sack [large burlap bag] that hung on the wall, its contents burned periodically. It was not in serious use, but as a very young child in the '50s I did use it occasionally when I was out playing. #20, as one Texan to another, perhaps we should blindfold those tree huggers, take 'em out into the Big Thicket, and turn 'em loose.
1 person likes this.

Reply 57 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 7/7/2019 2:24:09 PM (No. 116772)
@#18 - Streisand doesn't us TP. That's why she's been full of _______ for the past 50 years....
0 people like this.

Reply 58 - Posted by: dngriffin 7/7/2019 3:06:18 PM (No. 116800)
Get a bunch of red corn cobs and white corn cobs. Use 2 red cobs then 1 white one to see if you need to use another red one.
3 people like this.

Reply 59 - Posted by: Rumblehog 7/7/2019 3:25:40 PM (No. 116819)
Invest in Bidets!
0 people like this.

Reply 60 - Posted by: Oldenoughtoknowbetter 7/7/2019 4:58:50 PM (No. 116879)
Well, they already poop in the streets in San Francisco.
1 person likes this.

Reply 61 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 7/7/2019 6:08:36 PM (No. 116922)
The sky is falling! The sky is falling..... AND we're running out of toilet paper!
0 people like this.

Reply 62 - Posted by: oldmagnolia 7/7/2019 6:27:13 PM (No. 116937)
It is time to introduce again the bidet.
0 people like this.

Reply 63 - Posted by: cor-vet 7/7/2019 8:27:33 PM (No. 117012)
I almost needed a roll after Poster #58. Thanks for the laugh.
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Posted by MissMolly 7/8/2019 4:36:08 AM Post Reply
Christine Pelosi, a Democratic National Committee official and daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, warned conspicuously on Saturday evening that it is "quite likely that some of our faves are implicated" in the "horrific" sex-trafficking case against politically connected financier Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein is due in court following his sudden arrest Saturday in New York on new sex-trafficking charges involving allegations dating to the early 2000s, according to law enforcement officials. He has been accused of paying underage girls for massages and sexually abusing them at his mansion in Palm Beach, Fla., and in New York City. His 72-acre private estate on the Virgin Islands, a home said to be nicknamed
Bill Clinton Denies Knowing Anything
About His Pedophile Friend Jeffery Epstein
But Flight Logs Show Otherwise
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Posted by MissMolly 7/9/2019 4:54:19 AM Post Reply
Former President Bill Clinton, who is longtime friends with pedophile Jeffery Epstein, has released a statement about the billionaire's arrest over the weekend and charges related to child sex abuse and trafficking. "President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffery Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York. In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation,"
The New York Times Enlists in
the War on 'Sexist' Air Conditioning.
The Internet Isn't Having It.
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Posted by MissMolly 7/9/2019 5:06:13 AM Post Reply
Shortly before the Fourth of July, The New York Times published an op-ed attacking air conditioning as unnecessary, contributing to global warming, and oppressive. Taylor Lorenz, a staff writer at The Atlantic took up the call, calling air conditioning itself "unhealthy, bad, miserable, and sexist." She called for a ban on air conditioning in general, and the internet rushed to defend the technology. "Air-conditioning is unhealthy, bad, miserable, and sexist. I can’t explain how many times I’ve gotten sick over the summer b/c of overzealous AC in offices," Lorenz tweeted, adding "ban A/C."[tweet] The New York Times's Penelope Green begins her article
Whoa! Clinton Library Refuses to Hand
Over Information on Bill Clinton’s Ties
to Jeffrey Epstein
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Posted by Imright 7/8/2019 5:39:58 PM Post Reply
Florida billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on Saturday in New York for sex trafficking of minors, reported The Daily Beast. He faces federal sex trafficking charges. Reporter Yashar Ali believes there may be a second defendant in the Epstein case.In May 2016 FOX News reported that former President Bill Clinton traveled with Jeffrey Epstein on his famous “Lolita Express” at least 26 times and frequently ditched his secret service detail. And now this. OANN reported that the Clinton Presidential Library is refusing to hand over information
Cuomo signs law allowing New York
to hand over Trump's taxes
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Posted by Imright 7/8/2019 2:32:52 PM Post Reply
ALBANY—Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed a law Monday authorizing the release of state tax returns to a handful of congressional committees, opening a new avenue for Democrats to get their hands on some of President Donald Trump’s closely guarded finances.“Tax secrecy is paramount — the exception being for bonafide investigative and law enforcement purposes," Cuomo said in a release. "By amending the law enforcement exception in New York State tax code to include Congressional tax-related committees, this bill gives Congress the ability to fulfill its Constitutional responsibilities, strengthen our democratic system and ensure that no one is above the law."The law allows the state Department of Taxation and Finance
Linda Sarsour’s Tweets About Jesus
Echo Claims of Numerous Palestinian Officials
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Posted by M2 7/8/2019 7:05:25 AM Post Reply
Controversial Palestinian-American activist Linda Sarsour ignited a kerfuffle on Twitter over the weekend by tweeting that Jesus was “a Palestinian.” After drawing strong reactions, she fell back to a position of saying there were “multiple truths” about Jesus – that he can be seen to have been both Jewish and a Palestinian. The “Jesus was a Palestinian” claim is one frequently made by supporters of the Palestinian cause, for political purposes. Sarsour kicked off the row with a Friday night tweet, saying, “Jesus was Palestinian of Nazareth and is described in the Quran as being brown copper skinned with wooly hair.”
Pelosi says Trump is trying to
‘Make America White Again’ with
census question
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Posted by Imright 7/9/2019 3:32:22 AM Post Reply
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Monday blasted President Trump’s push for a citizenship question on the 2020 census as an effort to “Make America White Again” — claiming, “it’s not what our founders had in mind.”“They want to make sure that people, certain people, are counted,” Pelosi said at a press conference in San Francisco that focused on election security.“Just their people vote and not the general population,” said the Democratic lawmaker. “That’s why they’re fighting the census.”White House officials did not immediately return requests for comment from The Post on the statements. Pelosi, who was visiting her home district Monday, repeatedly called
Clinton denies pedo sex 23 replies
Posted by Maryland_Patriot 7/8/2019 8:52:05 PM Post Reply
Bill Clinton issued a statement denying that he knew nothing about Democrat billionaire donor Jeff Epstein having sex with girls. His statement said, "President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York," the statement read. "In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane: One to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation. Staff, supporters of the Foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on every leg of every trip.
Warren: I Would Push Israel
to End Occupation of Palestinians
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Posted by MissMolly 7/9/2019 5:09:21 AM Post Reply
2020 hopeful Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) told activists at an event Monday that she supported pressuring Israel to, in their words, "end occupation" of Palestinian territories. In a video posted by the left-wing Jewish group IfNotNow on Twitter, two of its activists approached Warren for a picture—she poses for photos with anyone who wants them after campaign events—and introduced themselves as American Jews with a proposition for her. "We really love the way you're fighting corruption. We'd really love it if you also pushed the Israeli government to end occupation," one of the activists said. "Yes, yes. So I'm there," Warren said quickly. Warren then took a picture with the two activists.
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