A Significant Geopolitical Problem for
President Trump and Us
Conservative Treehouse,
by
Sundance
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
7/10/2025 3:30:55 PM
Secretary of State Marco Rubio met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on the sidelines of a meeting of foreign ministers from the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) in Kuala Lumpur today. Against the backdrop of multiple questions to him about the outcome of their discussion, let us first discuss the problem being avoided.In the mind of President Putin, and in the growing awareness of the American electorate, the President of the United States does not control the Intelligence Community. It is entirely possible for the USIC to take America deeper toward war despite the President and people of America not wanting that to happen. Putin is simply
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Ashley Brenton 7/10/2025 4:40:04 PM (No. 1975594)
I seriously doubt the Chinese military, which hasn't fought a conflict since the 70s (which it didn't win), has the ability to successfully conduct a "cross channel" amphibious assault, Normandy style, against an island with only a few beaches suitable for the attempt.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Venturer 7/10/2025 4:40:56 PM (No. 1975595)
Perhaps it is time thar the President did control the intelligence community.
I would say it's long past time.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 7/10/2025 5:26:41 PM (No. 1975613)
More anti-Ukraine, pro-Russia propaganda from Sundance. Tiresome.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
earlybird 7/10/2025 6:29:05 PM (No. 1975635)
FTA:
People struggle to accept this dynamic. However, I would remind everyone that right now YOU are paying for the entire government of Ukraine to exist. Including the Ukraine govt payrolls, retirement benefits, healthcare and operational budget of Ukraine overall.
Americans do not want to pay for that. President Trump does not want to pay for that. Yet, here we are, paying for that.
Zelenskyy asked for funding for precisely these things.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
earlybird 7/10/2025 6:37:39 PM (No. 1975643)
I get the impression that some here would like our country's sons and grandsons to join the war against Russia.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
frankiems 7/10/2025 9:48:45 PM (No. 1975685)
We have no business being involved in this war. Nato keeps pushing east when it is explicitly not supposed to do so. Watch the documentary "Ukraine on Fire" and you will understand that the west (Britain) has being provoking Russia for years and then they dupe us into doing their fighting for them. "Hey, let's you two fight". No! And don't even get me started on Europe. We essentially fund that massive welfare state of theirs because we are picking up the tab on their defense while they pick fights with the neighbor (Russia)
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DVC 7/10/2025 10:16:22 PM (No. 1975692)
Re #4, unfounded assertions aren't evidence.
I once trusted Sundance, but having a lot of first hand knowledge about Russia and Russians and Ukraine and Ukrainians gathered over many years working with them, I no longer trust what Sundance says on this topic. He went to Russia for a few days and apparently bought all their propaganda.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 7/10/2025 10:20:19 PM (No. 1975695)
Re #5. Not at all.
How many in your family are dead in foreign wars recently? One beloved nephew in my family.
How many more family members are in the military? Two in my family.
Ukraine has only asked for weapons for their own soldiers to fight. They have never have asked for foreign troops.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
FLS 7/11/2025 12:37:12 AM (No. 1975735)
The leaches in Ukraine are going push us further into debt. Always begging for weapons and funds to run their government. What are the chances after passing the BBB that the uni party in Congress will pass another 100-200 billion to fund the wars in the middle east and Ukraine.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Strike3 7/11/2025 7:21:39 AM (No. 1975787)
The very first bundle of money that Biden sent to Ukraine was used mainly to fund their government, Many of the "leaders" took the money and ran. Mrs. Zelinskyy enjoyed a nice shopping vacation in Paris.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
felixcat 7/11/2025 7:29:33 AM (No. 1975792)
Yes, we get it. Putin is a bully. And there are a lot of bullies as heads of countries but we don't start wars or support wars against them just because they're a bully.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Zigrid 7/11/2025 9:09:39 AM (No. 1975850)
Someone's always threatening war....SO ...give US your best shot...and it will be pathetic!!
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Aubreyesque 7/11/2025 10:35:57 AM (No. 1975888)
#8 We dont owe the Ukraine a thing. Im sorry for the loss of your family members but thats what soldiers sign up for when they join the military: they blow things up and sometimes get killed. Im grateful for the people who willingly do that, but you sound like youre using their deaths to justify TRULY STUPID foreign policy. If you want to send the rest of your military family to the Ukraine, go ahead and do so. I dont want to see other American soldiers killed in the name of some psychotic Eastern European idiot.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
crashnburn 7/11/2025 11:25:25 AM (No. 1975920)
Unfortunately, USIC actually stands for United States Intelligence Cabal!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Geoman 7/11/2025 12:00:03 PM (No. 1975936)
In essence, it appears Sundance is saying that he believes Trump is more fearful of the IC than he is of nuclear war. That begs the questions: Is John Ratcliffe now giving Trump orders, which could explain Trump's sudden shift on the US funding the Ukraine war? Were these funds part of the BBB, identified to be carved from another line item of the budget (e.g., DoD) that was to be the fuel for Trump 47's agenda, or is it being dug out of yet another rathole, essentially off the books? Sundance made it a point to show DNI Gabbard as being muzzled, presumably by the IC, which some folks are calling the 4th Branch of government. Are we to believe that Trump is now OK with the arrangement Sundance has presented? Who knew the Article II 'vesting clause' had an asterisk? The vesting clause, squarely places the power of the Executive Branch in a single individual, the president, intended to prevent Politbureau-type or congressional committee-like executive leadership that was common under the previous Articles of Confederation and within several of the states.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Timber Queen 7/11/2025 12:22:29 PM (No. 1975943)
The war in Ukraine is a proxy action by NATO and U.S. "intelligence agencies". Zelinsky is their puppet, put in place only to provoke the Russian Bear. Later he proved useful in the Dim and RINO's first impeachment action against President Trump. Have we forgotten the CIA-Deep State operation that removed their duly elected president, a man not selected by the powers-that-be to be their leader? Have we forgotten the long train of congress critters and Senators that made the pilgrimage to Ukraine to pick up their graft? Have we forgotten Hunter Biden on the board for Burisma? Have we forgotten Joe Biden bragging that he got the effective prosecutor fired after threatening to stop their foreign aid? Have we forgotten Pelosi waving the Ukrainian flag all over the speaker's podium? Have we forgotten the frenzy of spending we lavished on Zelinsky and Ukraine for lo these many years? Have we forgotten that Zelinsky used that money to first attack the eastern part of Ukraine that was the home of ethnic Russians? NATO wanted to push against Putin. They got what they wanted. The USA has pulled Europe's butt out of the fire too many times already. No more!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
NotaBene 7/11/2025 1:36:51 PM (No. 1975971)
Wise words #16, very wise. We remember and will not forgive. Getting rid of the Ukraine albatross is our biggest problem.
Remember WE pay for Ukranian pensions, welfare and Mrs. Zelenskyy.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
danu 7/11/2025 2:24:08 PM (No. 1976005)
re 4: z-toad demands ever more funding for mansions and oligarchs.
there: fixed it for you.
and remember: we did not vote for this. we cannot pay for this, globalist grifter wef'fers.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 7/11/2025 3:05:01 PM (No. 1976021)
Yes, indeed, #16. It is all true. Much agree with everything you said.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
danu 7/11/2025 8:38:02 PM (No. 1976173)
my friends: imho, these weeks have been america last...bigly. pdt chose to send in the b-2's, w/ great success.
were we then allowed to work on healing america's ppl and places in need? nope.
lately, it's open season, empty hands, trawling for tp funding for foreigners, foreign wars, rich domestic beggers.
use your own dosh, lady lindsey.
our state is poor and will not help pdt in the mid-terms. more millions for foreign interventions will be lethal.
the above crooks have thrashed our economy to a fare-thee-will. they know america last, pretty well.
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