'Why Does the IRS Have Guns': Joni Ernst
Leads the Charge to Disarm the IRS
Townhall,
by
Spencer Brown
Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac,
6/13/2023 3:45:52 PM
U.S. Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA) is again taking action against (literally) weaponized bureaucracy by leading the charge in the upper chamber to ensure the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is not using tax dollars from hardworking Americans to arm its employees — and going beyond just that to disarm the taxman and move the IRS' investigation division over to the Justice Department.
According to an Open the Books report released last month, the IRS has spent more than $35 million since 2006 on firearms, ammunition, and tactical gear for its glorified and federally empowered accountant force, with some $10 million of that taxpayer-funded armament coming since just 2020.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
billa57 6/13/2023 3:50:51 PM (No. 1491197)
Strong arm enforcers. Better pay up or they'll shot you dead.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 6/13/2023 3:52:40 PM (No. 1491199)
No reason for IRS to have any of this. They need computers, pencils and paper, and a telephone.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
reefdiver 6/13/2023 4:02:19 PM (No. 1491211)
So the IRS is now part of the FBI?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DVC 6/13/2023 4:11:03 PM (No. 1491217)
Re #3, it would seem that all these strangely armed bureaucracies are part of a growing federal thugocracy, intent on controlling us by force.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 6/13/2023 4:26:36 PM (No. 1491232)
Democrats have been arming bureaucrat troops in the Executive Branch for years. They're giving out so much ammunition to these "DemCops" that they can't possibly use it all up and take it all home. No doubt many of them are selling some as a side hustle to pay for baby formula. /s I wouldn't doubt that much of the executive levels of each branch gets secret protection and travel "enhancements." Does the Education Department get weapons too.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Mcscow sailor 6/13/2023 4:39:35 PM (No. 1491240)
Many of our agencies have private armies
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And why isn't Lois Lerner in federal prison?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
tisHimself 6/13/2023 5:14:34 PM (No. 1491263)
Can we go back to the discussion cira 2012 of why the government was buying up ammo for various non military agencies?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec 6/13/2023 5:30:38 PM (No. 1491271)
If the IRS needs to arrest someone for whatever crime may have been committed, per their purview, they can call the Federal Marshal's to do it for them. The IRS does not need to have its own army. If you give them guns, they'll use them. The DOJ can petition the Court for a warrant and the FM Service can pick them up. It's called oversight - checks and balances.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Strike3 6/13/2023 5:31:26 PM (No. 1491272)
I was kind of interested in seeing how they would match up against real warriors. Well, there's always the EPA.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Catherine 6/13/2023 5:38:03 PM (No. 1491280)
Now we know why Obama bought one million bullets while in office.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
bad-hair 6/13/2023 5:48:37 PM (No. 1491287)
Seriously ???
The Library Police and Mall Cops have Guns. They're government.
"Drop the book and Hit the deck !!! ... sarcoff
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
bobn.t 6/13/2023 5:59:56 PM (No. 1491295)
Why Does the IRS Have Gunsz? zthe formstion of s national police force.
Buy guns an ammo before the civil war/IRS war startss
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
columba 6/13/2023 7:02:33 PM (No. 1491339)
I used to direct a program for the State in which I live. The IRS was upstairs from my office. The local FBI guys spent more time than needed in my office, looking at a woman who worked there.
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Why Joni? Because when Big Sis was the head of Homeland Security, she pretty much stockpiled as much as 20 million rounds of ammo, for all the weapons I am sure they quietly amassed to go with the ammo. They are quietly gearing up to go to war against the American citizens, and they are going to wish they had not.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
DVC 6/13/2023 9:00:20 PM (No. 1491415)
The "huge quantities" of ammo that these agencies have been buying is just a distraction.
Do they buy A LOT of ammo? Yes.
Why is that OK, and not something nefarious?
I'll explain - although the IRS having ANY armed thugs is nefarious in and of itself, the ammo quantity isn't.
In most cases the info on ammo quantities was a multiyear contract, like six or more years worth of ammo, contracted for many years in advance to get a super low price.
Then you look at how many agents they have....the IRS is known to have 4,600 guns, probably all handguns...which seems to indicate 4,000 or more armed "agents". So, divide the ammo numbers by 4,000.
And then, how often are they required to qualify? Often this is two or four times a year. And often this takes at least 50 rounds to qualify...and two or three practice runs before the "for the record run". IME, many police departments have a certain percentage of officers who need 6-10 chances to qualify, often affirmative action folks that won't be flunked, have to keep trying.
So qualify four times a year with 50 rounds, and two practice runs, that is 4 x 150 = 600 rounds, minimum, per agent. With three practice runs it's 650 rounds.
And they need ammo in their guns...4,000 guns, with three magazines with 15 - 17 rounds in them....that's 3 x 15 x 4,000 = 180,000 to 204,000 rounds just sitting in the guns without firing a shot.
So, 4,000 agents, qualifying four times a year, using 150 rds for two practice runs and one qualification run is 4,000 x 600 = 2.4 million rounds per year in qualifying. If it is a 6 year contract....then you order 2.4 million x 6 = 14.4 million rounds, make that 15 million for a nice round figure for the negotiations. Sounds bad when you read "IRS orders 15 million rounds of ammo!"
I personally used to burn through 5,000 to 10,000 rounds per year in practice when I was competing regularly, all paid for out of my own pocket (!). 600 rounds per year is really minimal for competence.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
EQKimball 6/13/2023 11:15:32 PM (No. 1491485)
When a Democrat Congress passes a personal property tax on firearms, those who do not provide a complete inventory will be visited.by heavily armed agents pursuant to search warrants. Your neighbors and acquaintances will be incentivized by rewards to turn you in. War? You betcha, which is why an army of new agents is being provided weapons.
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