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Turley: "This is an extremely damning indictment"

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Posted By: Dreadnought, 6/9/2023 5:49:48 PM

Just how serious is the bill of charges that Donald Trump will face on Tuesday? “These are hits below the water line,” Jonathan Turley tells Fox News this afternoon after the surprise unsealing of the 38-charge indictment against Trump. “This is not an indictment that you can dismiss.” You can bet that Trump’s legal team will literally attempt that on Tuesday, but Turley cautions that special counsel Jack Smith put a lot of effort in making sure it will stand. And not just in court, either: So did locating an e-mail server in a Chappaqua bathroom. But I’m getting ahead of myself … You can find the indictment here, although

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Hazymac 6/9/2023 5:55:04 PM (No. 1488607)
Damns the accuser.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 6/9/2023 6:06:46 PM (No. 1488610)
Don't be so sure, Turley. Trump isn't the only non-establishment politico that you should worry about.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DVC 6/9/2023 6:33:17 PM (No. 1488619)
Totally fraudulent, fake "indictment". Trump had absolute power to declassify anything that he chose to. So, anything that he says is not classified is BY DEFINITION not classified.....without regard to what it says on the paper, or the cover sheet, or what some other person says.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/9/2023 6:49:46 PM (No. 1488632)
It's damning of our government. This is abuse of power.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: thatsomewhereplace 6/9/2023 7:01:21 PM (No. 1488635)
When can we expect to see an indictment against Biden? Seems like, to me, Biden's rear end should get kicked too. Thinking his file stealing a far greater national danger than Trumps. Biden should be charged. NOW.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: kono 6/9/2023 7:09:37 PM (No. 1488639)
A conviction is damning, not an indictment. Dude needs to review what Due Process means, and the presumption of innocent until proved guilty. He probably also believes our nation is a democracy.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: jar 6/9/2023 7:28:45 PM (No. 1488644)
Conversation cited could have been created by AI. Boxes found in bathroom, ballroom, could be plants by FBI during their raid of Mar-a-Lago. Documents could also be phonies and plants.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: FormerDem 6/9/2023 7:32:00 PM (No. 1488647)
The partisanship of DOJ is sickening. Going to vote for PDJT, period.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: red1066 6/9/2023 7:35:22 PM (No. 1488649)
This would be serious if Biteme hadn't taken money from foreign governments and also didn't have classified documents in some twenty locations which include a cardboard box in his garage.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: LadyHen 6/9/2023 7:48:06 PM (No. 1488658)
DOJ better damn well better pray to whatever false idols they believe in that President Trump never makes it back into that Oval Office. The hell to pay will be legion.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: TruthFetish 6/9/2023 7:55:22 PM (No. 1488667)
"Show me the man, I'll show you the crime." - NKVD chief L Beria
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Reply 12 - Posted by: downnout 6/9/2023 8:16:28 PM (No. 1488675)
I have a question - the conversation sounds like it was taped. Were DJTs offices bugged?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Strike3 6/9/2023 8:28:10 PM (No. 1488682)
It's damning to the DOJ and their retarded child, the FBI, to frame Trump when Hillary and Biden did far worse and there was barely an investigation before calling them innocent. Since it seems to be okay these days to dress in black and burn cities all over the country, they may see more than they can handle in the near future.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: stablemoney 6/9/2023 8:28:43 PM (No. 1488683)
I heard Turley, always muddle mouthed, give the most vacuous, double sided mouth, analysis anyone has ever heard. Turley is the type that cannot decide what he wants for dinner.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bpl40 6/9/2023 8:50:55 PM (No. 1488695)
All the legal gobbledygook of Title 18 etc. aside. The prosecutor is going to have to prove that Donald Trump wanted to willfully and deliberately harm the United States. Getting that past more than four justices of the SCOTUS in an election year is going to be impossible. But they know that. There must be some other game afoot.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: nerdowell 6/9/2023 8:52:08 PM (No. 1488696)
I think Turley is sincere but his analysis is essentially technical and we know this is political. It's trivial --the product of one of General Milli Vanilli's charges, Trump wasn't trying to start a war, just defend his reputation. Nothing was revealed outside until justice disclosed it, and this only revealed Milli's susceptibility to fever-dreams. They should: put Milli on the stand and question him thoroughly about his contacts and efforts to undermine trump-- which led to this. Question William Barr about his obvious dereliction in failing to advise the president.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby 6/9/2023 9:10:47 PM (No. 1488705)
Is this part of the plan? Trump studied Sun Tsu. "The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent." “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” Stay tuned to Twitter.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: clayusmcret 6/9/2023 9:26:16 PM (No. 1488712)
We thought Comey was a serious FBI director. We thought Mueller was a serious former FBI director. We thought Merrick Garland was a serious Attorney General (thanks God he's not a supreme court justice). They've all shown themselves to be partisan hacks. Smith, like Bragg, is no different.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Sully 6/9/2023 10:13:20 PM (No. 1488723)
Did anyone **read** the article? It says documents that have significant importance to the US do not need to be classified to be illegal to share. And that private citizen Trump was sharing such documents, specifically ones relating to US invasion plans for a country (likely Iran). And that Citizen Trump admits on tape that the docs were never declassified in any case. I fail to see the whimsy in this. Nor can I fathom how the heck fmr President Trump could leave himself vulnerable like this. What on Earth... Please sober up.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Axeman 6/9/2023 10:54:33 PM (No. 1488736)
What proof is there that anything other than the existence of some document was shared? Is sharing the fact that a document exists supposed to be something that requires an inquisition? I saw a lot of unprovable assumptions. Compared to the actual treason that the Demzis are in the process of this is a real nothing burger again. But it diverted attention from the Clintler, 0bama, and FJB crime family exploits for a while.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: terrywhite 6/10/2023 8:19:20 AM (No. 1488864)
I have a question for the esteemed Mr. Turley. If the crime is so egregious, so terribly heinous, so clearly a violation, why does it take years of investigation to find it out; to determine if it actually occurred?
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Reply 22 - Posted by: msjena 6/10/2023 8:22:19 AM (No. 1488867)
An indictment is a one-sided document. Can they really prove what they say? Including wilfullness? Those pictures of boxes in the bathroom are designed to prejudice people from the outset. They knew the media would take that ball and run with it. Did they contain classified documents? Most documents are not classified. If they were not classified, it is, at most, a civil case. There is also the issue of a President's right to declassify documents. How will the courts interpret that?
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