This couple spent $48,000 to convert their
Portland, Oregon, home to 'net zero':
'The future is efficient and renewable'
CNBC,
by
Celia Fernandez
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
4/22/2023 9:30:52 PM
When Ryan Shanahan, 41, decided to buy a house in Portland, Oregon, he knew from the start that he wanted his future home to be "net zero." To be net zero is to cut greenhouse gas emissions to as close to zero as possible, with any remaining emissions reabsorbed from the atmosphere, by oceans and forests, for instance, according to the United Nations. "My mantra is that the future is efficient, electric, and renewable," Shanahan tells CNBC Make It. He is a zero-energy retrofits manager at Birdsmouth, a zero-energy housing company. He advises clients on how to convert their existing
Reply 1 - Posted by:
singermom9 4/22/2023 9:43:52 PM (No. 1453907)
And where are you going to put the old solar panels and car batteries that NEVER DECOMPOSE? The car batteries will leach into the earth and into the groundwater. Windmill blades never decompose either. But for today they think everything is OK. No vision for the future.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
padiva 4/22/2023 9:46:27 PM (No. 1453909)
Let me know in 10 years how everything is going.......
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 4/22/2023 9:49:27 PM (No. 1453913)
A few weeks ago, a neighbor's solar panels caught on fire. The fire department sent three firetrucks and spent over an hour putting out the fire and ripping off all the panels. They were nearing the end of their useful life and apparently shorted out.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
jalo1951 4/22/2023 10:02:07 PM (No. 1453921)
Let's see, $60,000 for an electric car and throw in another $50,000 for the house (not counting the original price of the house). How much disposable money do most of us have just sitting around? I would say not that many.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 4/22/2023 10:03:59 PM (No. 1453922)
A foolish couple and their money...
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
WV.Hillbilly 4/22/2023 10:31:51 PM (No. 1453933)
They will never recover the investment.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Bison65 4/22/2023 10:50:36 PM (No. 1453949)
Portland, Oregon is rated as the third cloudiest city in the country with 222 days rated as cloudy. The solar panels on this house will not provide their energy needs for most of this time.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
BirdsNest 4/22/2023 10:51:32 PM (No. 1453951)
A fool and his money....
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Omen55 4/22/2023 10:58:25 PM (No. 1453953)
Portland!
We all know what's going on there.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
caljeepgirl 4/22/2023 11:00:28 PM (No. 1453955)
He has a mantra....
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
VAPMAN 4/22/2023 11:23:35 PM (No. 1453962)
But how are you going to get rid of the co2 you are breathing out?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
stablemoney 4/22/2023 11:25:06 PM (No. 1453965)
3 BR house, and 1 bathroom. He would have been better served to add another bathroom.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
NessunDorma 4/22/2023 11:37:43 PM (No. 1453971)
Buddy, we already know you're crazy--you bought a home in Portland.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
sunshinehorses 4/23/2023 12:07:53 AM (No. 1453979)
There are common sense ways to reduce dependency on electric and gas. Farmers had SMALL windmills that pumped their water. That small windmill could produce electricity for the homestead. A running creek or river with a dam can produce a fair amount of electricity (and used to until the environmentalists got in the act). How about renewable wood for heating? Most woodstoves today produce very little pollution. Instead of thinking BIG, power companies need to think smaller - but then people wouldn't be paying so much $$ for the electricity produced.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
DVC 4/23/2023 1:13:04 AM (No. 1453992)
Zero economic sense. Just stupid when mains power is available.
CO2 is beneficial.
Climate change is a total scam.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
DVC 4/23/2023 1:20:16 AM (No. 1453995)
Total annual electric bill....$1,100 before, $285 after. So they save $815 oer YEAR. They SPENT way more than the $48K, but the taxpayers of Oregon were forced to pay part of their foolishness.
So - the save $815 per year, and EVEN ignoring the time value of money, they will take 59 years to break even. The ACTUAL cost was $61K, so the break even is 75 years. And with the time value of money, currently at about 6-7%, they will take FAR longer to break even. They will NEVER get any actual economic benefit in their lifetimes.
Stupid, stupid, stupid....but then - they are leftist, which REQUIRES them to be stupid. And they have proven it.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
seamusm 4/23/2023 1:23:39 AM (No. 1453997)
I have no problem with trying to keep one's environmental footprint to a minimum. But the damage done elsewhere in the world with rare earth mining is enormous even if hidden from these and other Americans. More importantly, I had to read this twice but it would appear this couple is childless. So who are they doing all of this for? I can assure them, Gaia doesn't give a damn. There is no future without children.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
singermom9 4/23/2023 2:47:00 AM (No. 1454002)
Just a heads up. TREES use the CO2 that we expel to LIVE.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 4/23/2023 6:04:47 AM (No. 1454022)
Not a STEM major.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Strike3 4/23/2023 7:04:23 AM (No. 1454041)
I hate to burst his bubblehead but trees and plants absorb and process ALL of the CO2 they can get their hands on or else the Earth's atmosphere would have been poison to humans centuries ago. The only way we can kill the atmosphere is by cutting down enough trees to overpower their ability to process CO2 into O2. Do not fall for climate scams because every "solution" is a scam.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
spacer 4/23/2023 7:06:59 AM (No. 1454042)
Without CO2 there would not be photosynthesis. Without photosynthesis the veggies these two eat, they are vegans right?, won't grow and the corn steers eat won't grow so no Big Macs. Besides the Chinese made solar panels the other tax payers paid for far exceed any pollution they might mitigate. Pixie dust lies and unicorns, it's the amerikan way.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
udanja99 4/23/2023 8:36:59 AM (No. 1454100)
Gee, not too many years ago the whole environmentalist thing was all about saving the rain forests because they were “Earth’s lungs”. Back when I was in grammar school in the late fifties we learned about the exchange of CO2 and oxygen between plants and animals and how neither could survive without the other. Now the crazies are cutting down the rain forests in order to mine minerals used in EV’s and ignoring the fact that not a single one of their predictions in over 50 years has actually come to pass.
Ron White is right - you can’t fix stupid. Or fanaticism.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
NamVet70 4/23/2023 8:40:37 AM (No. 1454105)
Apparently their stupid green investment did not break any laws, so why is this newsworthy? This doesn't prove anything except that there are a lot of people who have fully bought into the global warming hoax and there are a lot of businesses that are happy to take their money.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
bpl40 4/23/2023 9:20:34 AM (No. 1454135)
This guy is like someone spending good money to buy gasoline in 1890, saying it is the future. True but the timing is way off!
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
privateer 4/23/2023 10:42:22 AM (No. 1454210)
Haw, haw; that's a real knee-slapper! This is the Ecofascist equivalent of: lose 33 pounds in 11 days, using this one weird trick.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
crashnburn 4/23/2023 10:54:55 AM (No. 1454224)
I've got better things to do with my money.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
FLCracker 4/23/2023 12:04:16 PM (No. 1454312)
I'd read the article, but I don't trust anybody who has a "mantra." I bet he clasps his hands and bows to people, too.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 4/23/2023 12:19:04 PM (No. 1454329)
Just a minute here. After taking a look at the pics in the article, a few thoughts -
1. The minerals required to construct the solar panels comes from both the oil and gas and mining industries.
2. The chemicals in the paint on the house comes from both the mining and oil & gas industries.
3. The roofing shingles are petroleum-based composition shingles, the ingredients again come from the oil and gas and mining industries.
4. Hmm...I seem to notice the electrical power lines tied into the house. I wonder how the electricity is generated (hint- it isn't all from hydrogeneration).
5. The plastic used to manufacture their lawn chairs comes from the oil & gas industry.
6. The color dyes in the couples' clothing comes from both the oil & gas and mining industries.
7.The plastic used to manufacture the buttons used to keep their shirts closed comes from the oil and gas industry.
8. The cotton used to manufacture their shirts was made possible using fertilizers and chemical products that come from the oil and gas industry.
9. The metal clips used to hold the woman's bra closed comes from the mining industry.
10. The plastics used to manufacture their ecar come from both the mining industry and oil and gas industries.
11. The battery in the ecar was manufactured with chemicals that come from both the mining industry and oil and gas industries.
12. The nails and hardware used to build the house come from the mining industry.
13. The couples' dental fillings consist of materials produced by the mining industry.
14. All of the interior furnishings, appliances, plumbing, and electrical wiring in the house are produced using products from both the oil and gas and mining industries.
15. By the time you strip the couple, their bodies, and their house of anything that came from the oil and gas and mining industry products, they would be standing there butt naked on an empty lot.
16. Yep, Ryan and Megan, you are about as two-faced, fake, and "net zero" as a couple can be.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
MickTurn 4/23/2023 12:37:44 PM (No. 1454347)
Hey Ryan, Send me YO MONEY so I can do it too.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
oldretiredDAT 4/23/2023 1:21:03 PM (No. 1454398)
Last summer we had some solar panels installed. Am I worried about the environment so much I just had to do this? NO. I wanted to save a bit on our electric bill. Since October, our electric bill has averaged just the connection fee to the grid. I pay just under $200 a month for the panels. We are saving close to $100 a month. Not a lot, but the money stays with me. Thing they don't tell you is for you to have solar power when the grid goes down, you need batteries. $10k-$13k per battery depending on size. I guess someone could straight wire it. But we are saving money overall.
As for forcing this on all of us, NOPE! It was a choice, not a dictate. I do not plan to cut back on driving or anything else for the "climate". Let innovation develop new ways to use the energy sources we have that will be cleaner. Do not dictate. Ever check the stats out for how much cleaner coal burning is today compared to how clean it was 50-75 years ago? We can clean things up, and probably will not cost an arm and leg. Might even end up being generational improvements in equipment.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Kazzowee 4/23/2023 2:07:45 PM (No. 1454433)
I’m only going to address where this property is at. It’s on a city lot, which means small. It’s in the middle of four busy streets, there’s no view, no trees, and no privacy. It’s in Portland. They will never recoup the extra costs they invested in it in their lifetime. There’s zero chance I’ll buy this house.
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They actually spent over $60,000 but government handouts and various tax credits lowered the bill. By the time it's all paid for the appliances and solar panels will be due for replacement.