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Posted By: GustoGrabber, 4/19/2023 7:55:03 AM

America has an undeniable, serious problem with gun violence and firearm deaths. The debate about how to solve it revolves around whether guns are the cause or a symptom of deeper societal issues. In truth, whether cause or symptom, gun violence in the young does not lend itself to a single solution. It is a multifactorial problem that is obscured by a recent alarming statistic, currently being disseminated in the media and scientific literature. Rather than an argument for a ban on AR-15s or a defense of the Second Amendment, this piece is meant to clarify that misleading statistic.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Clinger 4/19/2023 8:04:55 AM (No. 1450980)
The author is most certainty a deeply flawed character because he makes perfect sense that doesn't fit the official approver leftist narrative.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: NamVet70 4/19/2023 8:11:07 AM (No. 1450986)
"undeniable, serious problem with gun violence and firearm deaths" - Actually, we have a problem with crime. The fact that firearms are used in crime is a problem with criminals, not a problem with firearms. No firearm ever perpetrated a crime. Some person did the act. Even the guy on the movie set who shot one of his employees.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: tootall 4/19/2023 8:18:58 AM (No. 1450992)
'If you don'tknow where you're going, any road will get you there' - Lewis Carroll
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Krause 4/19/2023 8:38:34 AM (No. 1450999)
One of the biggest causes of youth shooting, stealing and mayhem is poor, or no, parenting. And no one wants to touch this issue. So it will continue.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Strike3 4/19/2023 8:44:10 AM (No. 1451002)
If the end goal is to reduce deaths in young people, focusing on 100,000 deaths from Fentanyl with a simple fix of closing the southern border is far more serious and productive than citing 4,500 deaths per year from firearms misuse. Out of a population of 360 million you are statistically always going to have some people with mental illness or anger issues. Is it worth it to focus on gun violence at all? Ironically, the dealers that sell Fentanyl and use guns to protect their turf add to the firearms deaths.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Maggie2u 4/19/2023 11:47:40 AM (No. 1451122)
The manipulation also extends to maturity. According to radicals a 10yr. old is mature enough to have surgery to change his/her sex even against their parents wishes. But, when committing a crime their brain isn't fully mature until age 26yrs. so the criminal can't be prosecuted as an 'adult' because they can't understand what they were doing.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: cold porridge 4/19/2023 12:02:21 PM (No. 1451135)
They never want to discuss the homicidal and suicidal adverse effects that are plainly listed on most psych drugs, and most of the mass shooting at schools from kids were shootings when the shooter was on psych drugs. They never want to discuss that, because it would cause a push to ban psych drugs and Big Pharma could lose money. Ban the psych drugs, not guns and bring back mental hospitals.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 4/19/2023 12:04:39 PM (No. 1451137)
The main symtpom is a disfunctional citizenry and government that are suffering from a chronic mental health illness. Belief in God has been replaced with obeyance to the deep state. If a disfunctional citizenry doesnt use guns to express their mental health problem, they would resort to knives. If not knives, they would use bombs. If not bombs, they will use delivery trucks for running over people. If not delivery trucks, they will use {fill in the blank}. Is mental health illness itself a symptom? If yes, what then is the cause or did i already answer my own question above.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Avanti1 4/19/2023 12:23:26 PM (No. 1451150)
Just like guns, statistics can be misused. Everyone should have a basic understanding of the proper methods of statistics and the valid conclusions that can be drawn by statistical analysis. Unfortunately, we are far from that situation. "The same set of statistics can produce opposite conclusions at different levels of aggregation." — Thomas Sowell
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 4/19/2023 12:57:04 PM (No. 1451190)
They've been doing this for decades. When I used to have to go to the library to collect info from the paper phone book sized Uniform Crime Statistics, the murders were reported in 10 year groups. 0-9, 10-19, 20-29, etc. When looking at "firearms deaths" the 0-9 was always NATIONALLY in the upper single digits, running about 6-9 range, randomly varying each year. But the 10-19 was far, far larger, I really don't remember now, but more like 1,500 or 2,000 if I remember correctly. Clearly the teen gang bangers were killing and murdering even three or four decades ago far beyond ACTUAL children. But, even then the antigun folks ALWAYS defined "children" as 0-19 and occasionally even cheated more by including 20 year olds as "children". They wanted to say "Look at all these poor CHILDREN who are murdered"....when all but 6 or 8 per year were teen gang members shot by other teen gang members.....HARDLY anyone's idea of "children"....more like feral beasts.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: WWIIDaughter 4/19/2023 1:10:09 PM (No. 1451210)
Using the term "gun violence " is speaking false language. Guns cannot drive cars, rob banks, or commit crimes. Words matter. Gang violence, thug violence, criminal violence, deadly violence... these reality. Reminds me of Rush doing his Killer SUV stories, e.g., "SUV crashes into school bus: 2 stuents killed."
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