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DeSantis Is Right About Ukraine

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Posted By: mc squared, 3/16/2023 11:43:40 AM

Ron DeSantis came out against our current blank check n’ hack cliches Ukraine policy, stating the indisputable truth that Ukraine was not a vital US interest worthy of risking World War III with Russia. The next day he was proven right when a Russian SU-27 knocked a US Reaper drone into the Black Sea. Hey, feeding Russians (and Ukrainians) into a meat grinder is all fun and games until we get dragged into the abattoir too. Of course, all the right people got really mad about it – when Bill Kristol, Adam Kinzinger, David French, Max Boot and Mitt Romney are all for something, you need to be against it.


As Schlichter says, you know your policy is right by the people who are against against it.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 3/16/2023 12:24:54 PM (No. 1426621)
No, he's not.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Pearson365 3/16/2023 12:31:04 PM (No. 1426629)
If either DeSantis or Trump manage to overcome massive Dem voter fraud in 2024 to win the presidency, the Democrats will abruptly turn against aiding Ukraine. Dems will do their worse to undermine even a modest effort to supply arms and money despite having spent over $100 billion aiding Zelensky. Ukraine firsters will suddenly become American minority and women firsters without ever having to explain their 180 degree shift. The Repub president will be labeled the war monger determined to ignore US needs while pushing for WWIII. Dems never change. Slightly off topic, Poland is about to give Ukraine 14 to 24 Russian produced fighter jets. If you were Putin, would you order the destruction of these jets before they are handed over to the Ukrainian Air Force? An attack on a Polish military airfield would trigger NATO obligations to defend a member, spreading the comflict behind Ukraine. Like the banking crisis the war can easily spread.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: bamboozle 3/16/2023 12:37:08 PM (No. 1426640)
He's right on. See also VDH's Are We The Byzantines? on the Townhall page.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 3/16/2023 12:53:00 PM (No. 1426663)
FTA - "A supporting strategy should be to integrate Russia into the West to counter China’s rise." Kurt, just one problem with what you said. Putin and Russia want no part of the Great Reset. Neither does China. Why do you think the BRICS countries have banded together. But it is getting rather old that America now cowards out in the latter stages of wars. The Vietnam war bugout, the Afghanistan war bugout. And now a possible Ukraine war bugout? It's too late for anymore bugouts because the world is on the brink.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: minuteman 3/16/2023 1:15:48 PM (No. 1426688)
Th US hasn’t declared war since WW2 and the results speak for themselves. I am firmly against any further escalation of our involvement in Ukraine. Unfortunately, the world tyrants seem to leading us toward a massive global conflict.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Geoman 3/16/2023 1:26:36 PM (No. 1426694)
For those Ukraine hawks who knee-jerk disagree with DeSantis on Ukraine, please explain how Ukraine's value to the U.S. is worthy of risking nuclear war with Russia. In addition, please expound upon the necessity to drain American military supplies and ammunition, even as our own borders are literally being overrun, as well as our treasury prioritizing the needs of Ukraine above those of our own country. Finally, please explain how Trump's word is infallibly correct except with regard to Ukraine.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: joew9 3/16/2023 2:12:53 PM (No. 1426717)
I think we should tell Russia they can do with Ukraine as they like. And that we will assure that NATO will not invade Russia. And that Russia will be able to continue to have a sea port. And that we will no longer finance NATO. When the Soviet Union fell NATO should have been disbanded. But now NATO is the aggressor.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: felixcat 3/16/2023 2:34:14 PM (No. 1426724)
In the meantime, our own borders are wide open, fentanyl and other potions are pouring into the country, the economy is a bit shaky, we are no longer energy independent, China is rattling its sabers all over the world while we deplete our armaments for Ukraine? But we have to take our Putin and then what ? Hmm. Don't tell us that there is a Russian Thomas Jefferson waiting in the wings to replace Putin. Sorry but if things are that serious in Ukraine then Mrs Zelensky should stay home and start prepping bandages rather than hanging out with all the beautiful people. As poster 5 stated: Unfortunately, the world tyrants seem to leading us toward a massive global conflict. And so we better get ourselves ready.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Quigley 3/16/2023 3:31:05 PM (No. 1426752)
I am echoing some of the sentiment above. I would like to think that the Iraq invasion did some good. But the Dims undermined every scrap of good to attack a Republican president. I cannot believe that the US has the will to execute a decade long plan. Throw into the mix that the Dim party seeks to damage the US and would use a war to that purpose- as was expressed above- and it’s charley brown and the football episode 28. Would you want Generally Cyrus Milley fighting a war on your behalf? Would he warn the other side if a Republican president were going to do something he didn’t approve of? Would he give the enemy $85B of high grade weapons because it’s just easier? These are not wars. They are crises the Dims will not allow to go to waste.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DanvilleBill 3/16/2023 4:04:31 PM (No. 1426783)
I'm with #6. Particularly his last sentence: "Finally.....::
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Rhh0nda 3/16/2023 4:58:39 PM (No. 1426816)
Just remember, the same people who sold you Gov. Bush "I'm a Uniter not a Divider, Anthrax,Mushroom Clouds, WMDs, Chenical Weapons,"Compassionate Conservatism" T.A.R.P.,CCP in the WTO w/ sum MFN , Stagnant Wages, Service Sector Jobs w/ a side of Freedom Fries, Patriot Act, Homeland Security Door Mat, "Come on In" and 20 years of Regime Change, preemptive strikes,invasion, incursions, Benghazi, Syria, Yemen,Afghanistan, Iraq,Libya, Death, Destruction and Debt! Are the same people editing, publishing and selling you DeSantis. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me! MAGA Trumps their thinly veiled idiotic Strategery every day in every way. No More Endless Wars! America 1st.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Gartrell Bibberts 3/16/2023 7:59:56 PM (No. 1426869)
Among the other considerations, Europe has the most at risk but are sniggering about letting us bear most of the cost. Europe had lost WWI until the Germans made it impossible for us to stay out. Further, we bore the major effort and cost of WWII. I’m for letting Europe take the lead on this Poop Show.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: LLAMA 3/17/2023 8:03:06 AM (No. 1427140)
It's hard to understand why we are taking the side of a despotic country against another despotic country, spending billions to do it, and allowing a massive invasion into our own country through our southern border. And BTW, depleting our own cash and munitions when we face actual threats to the nation's security in Asia?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Rinktum 3/17/2023 8:57:25 AM (No. 1427172)
#9 wrote and I wholeheartedly agree: “ These are not wars. They are crises the Dims will not allow to go to waste.” #11, I agree. I am done with Republicans who want to fight on every foreign front but can’t rouse themselves to fight against the enemy within which is the most existential threat to the Republic we have ever faced.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: uforabin 3/17/2023 9:29:37 AM (No. 1427198)
I am of the mindset that either a Trump or DeSantis administration would have seen what was coming in Ukraine well in advance and would have found a way to prevent a hot war from starting, let alone escalating.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Trapper 3/17/2023 10:03:56 AM (No. 1427222)
The leader of Ukraine is shutting churches and arresting priests, not him personally, but the government people he sends out to do it. The US is funding the entire Ukraine budget, pensions, salaries, office supplies, civilian, military, all of it. So – the US government is shutting down churches and arresting priests in Ukraine. NOT ANOTHER CENT TO UKRAINE. Trump 2024
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Zigrid 3/17/2023 11:08:05 AM (No. 1427289)
I learned early in life...never walk away from a shows weakness...the pentagon wanted a war in Ukraine because it's good for business and they got it...thanks to biden's Keystone Cops in the White House...but now WE need to finish the job...and now china is negotiating a peace settlement with Russia....don't doubt it...XI needs to look like a global leader and Ukraine is just the bad his country folk are getting restless and ready to buck him...that should be fun to watch...IF the fake media will even cover it....
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Reply 18 - Posted by: cor-vet 3/17/2023 11:15:19 AM (No. 1427303)
I don't regret my time in 'Nam, I'll call it a learning or maturing experience, but I think it was a waste of good men and resources for a cause that meant nothing to America. Now that I'm within spitting distance of 80, and have watched the debacles our government has made in the middle east so that our recipients in congress of military/industrial lobbying largesse can amass huge fortunes, I'm with DeSantis. If we’re going to make neo-cons wealthy, let's at least do it with the aim of making America stronger and let the others fight their own battles. We should have learned in the 60's/70's that we are not the world's police force. I also believe, that NATO should have been disbanded when the Berlin wall came down, and would add, that the UN should have been disbanded at the same time. We need to look after American citizens 1st., before we worry about the rest of this crazy world.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: coldborezero 3/17/2023 11:31:46 AM (No. 1427317)
RE#1: Yes, he is. Not one drop of American blood for the Globalist/DNC Eastern European Money Laundering Scheme. Damn them to hell.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: udanja99 3/17/2023 12:50:12 PM (No. 1427398)
I’ve been with DeSantis since long before he made this statement. I’m sick to death of Biden sending billion$ to the utterly corrupt Zelensky while we have military veterans living in the streets, our economy is tanking and Zelensky’s wife is out on 40,000 Euro per hour shopping sprees in Paris. The seriousness of this subject is obvious when you consider that for Kurt, this was a snark free article.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Wexfordcounty 3/17/2023 2:16:08 PM (No. 1427461)
Russia annexes Crimea, and Obama stamps his foot and does nothing. Coincidence that his vice president is not being taken seriously by Putin? I think not. He saw the humiliating bug-out in Afghanistan and planned accordingly.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: coyote 3/17/2023 3:12:14 PM (No. 1427486)
Well, DeSantis' comments are interesting, but what would he do if he were president? Did I miss that?
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Lawsy0 3/17/2023 9:11:05 PM (No. 1427679)
This Putin was the not-bad-looking shirtless guy on horseback the media tried to make us swoon over. We didn't swoon politically. We haven't swooned since Dallas in 1963. That was our last group-swoon. We've gotten over teen crushes and got our 4.0's in advanced placement poly-sci all over the place. Thanks in particular to Lucianne Goldberg and Rush Limbaugh who pried open our eyes. Eternal thanks to them. We'll be fighting for DeSantis, full throttle, if he gains the nomination. Slightly off topic, but I'll honor DeSantis for my paraphrase of the statement HE made about COVID lockdowns; ''Why do we quarantine well people; it's normal to quarantine sick people.''
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