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What George Will and Karl Rove Get Wrong
About Populist Conservatism

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Posted By: GustoGrabber, 12/2/2022 6:50:21 AM

Are modern conservatives just unthinking rubes who want to be angry? That was the tenor of a discussion Wednesday on the “future of conservatism” featuring former George W. Bush strategist Karl Rove and columnist George Will, who announced that he’d left the Republican Party in 2016. The event was sponsored in part by the Lyndon Baines Johnson Foundation, a curious choice to discuss the future of conservative ideas. Johnson was the architect of the Great Society, the largest expansion of the federal government in our history alongside the New Deal. Rove said that many of the conservative “touchstones” of the past, such as federalism and limited government

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Reply 1 - Posted by: chumley 12/2/2022 6:55:14 AM (No. 1347148)
Idiots like that complain that we are angry, yet they are the reason we are angry. In all their intellectual smugness they fail to see that they are no different than the democrats. They are speeding us down the same road to the same cliff, but think they are virtuous in that they are driving in a different lane. To blazes with all of them. There are few things more worthless than an intellectual.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: FJB 12/2/2022 7:15:07 AM (No. 1347157)
George Will's still alive?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Clinger 12/2/2022 8:02:46 AM (No. 1347186)
FTA: "Rove said that many of the conservative “touchstones” of the past, such as federalism and limited government, have been diminished and replaced by populists and European “blood-and-soil-style” conservatism." It never ceases to astound me the lengths to which the learned elite go to deny that there is a solid vein of constitutionally grounded deeply principled voters who will always shift our vote to whomever is the best option to preserve the republic as founded. Just because that best choice isn't exactly what we want doesn't mean that we changed what we want.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: philsner 12/2/2022 8:19:22 AM (No. 1347196)
What do they get wrong? Everything. Captain Obvious
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Reply 5 - Posted by: TexaTucky 12/2/2022 8:36:17 AM (No. 1347214)
In a recent thread I was reminded by earybird of a great SAT word that I will now bastardize to characterize these two ding-dongs: SuperSillyAsses . . . always so much smarter than the rest of us.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: janjan 12/2/2022 9:16:27 AM (No. 1347241)
Rove is right about one thing. We are angry. We’re angry about what happened to this country while people like George Will sat around drinking their expensive brandy and lamenting at how ignorant everyone else is. There is a lot to be angry about and these puffed up little men will not be the ones to fix it. We will.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 12/2/2022 9:30:37 AM (No. 1347264)
Will and Rowe are the LAST people that I would trust about ANYTHING.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Italiano 12/2/2022 9:34:44 AM (No. 1347274)
What we want is to be left alone, free to live our lives, raise our children, be safe in our streets, attend our churches and not have to send our kids overseas to fight and die or be maimed in a meaningless Third World hellhole for nothing. The Rove's, Will's, Bushes and their Democrat soulmates do everything possible to prevent that. Why not, their families are not affected or hurt in any way by the disaster that is 2022 America. Ours are. To cap it off, Trump exposed the Uniparty Deep State corruption that we suspected but were never able to confirm. We're not going back.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: red1066 12/2/2022 10:08:33 AM (No. 1347311)
Have these two EVER been right about anything? Fox trots out Rove with his stupid white board every election cycle. I guess the prop makes him look like he knows what he's talking about. As for George Will, I haven't seen him on TV in years, and haven't read anything he's written either.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 12/2/2022 10:43:28 AM (No. 1347336)
Prissy George Will, ever impressed with his vocabulary and now out of touch politically, one of the leading practitioners of clutch-your-pearls journalism.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: MDConservative 12/2/2022 12:07:46 PM (No. 1347421)
FTA: "Are modern conservatives just unthinking rubes who want to be angry?" No more than modern "liberals" who thrive on anger and "injustice". The difference is that the liberals seem to hold the upper hand these days. Many dismiss these as "idiots", yet have no real answer that resonates or even translates into political action. Modern conservatives prefer to rage on over the ideological purity of the politicians they elect. Primary them all! While professing a "republic" separating us from democratic mob rule, some celebrate the mob, er, populists. They dismiss "intellectuals", which I suppose would include such as Jefferson, Franklin and Madison. The more extreme call for watering the fabled tree of liberty with the tyrant's blood. That's a real vote-getter. Ideology is not politics, which is a practical rather than theoretical exercise. Conflating the two is a mistake. Recognizing the difference a key. American "conservatism" essentially has no where to go politically today but out. That happens occasionally, Perot-ism being a recent example. It's inert in thought, unable to present a cohesive vision beyond lesser government, lower taxes, and a strong defense. It wants to turn back a clock to halcyon days. A generation or two removed from Reagan, that doesn't sell to the masses expecting government bacon be served them, nor generations swathed in government-provided bubble wrap, nor a nation that sees "injustice" everywhere it looks. American conservatives and conservative politicians need to find a palatable-to-the public path to the future. To FPDT's credit, he dented the liberal chokehold on racial voting blocs offering an alternative. More, much more needs to be done.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bighambone 12/2/2022 12:09:51 PM (No. 1347423)
Will and Rove are liberal establishment and “UniParty” Republican supporters, so what would you expect?
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