Can Californians afford electric cars?
Wait lists for rebates are long and some
programs have shut down
CalMatters,
by
Nadia Lopez
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
8/7/2022 10:44:30 AM
When Tulare resident Quentin Nelms heard California was offering a hefty state subsidy to help lower-income residents buy electric cars, he applied right away.
But it wasn’t as easy as he thought it would be.
Nelms spent four months on a waitlist before he was accepted into one of the state’s clean-car incentive programs in January. He qualified for $9,500 that he planned to use to buy a 2022 Ford Mustang Mach-E. But after discovering that several dealerships had raised the car’s price by more than $10,000 during the time it took to get the grant, he could no longer afford the roughly $53,000 cost.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Italiano 8/7/2022 10:49:50 AM (No. 1240563)
Oh darn. I guess that I'll just have to stick with my F-150. Curse the luck.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 8/7/2022 11:25:45 AM (No. 1240605)
Good news. I am never going to have an electric joke car, so any stumbling blocks will never affect me. Only for the fools.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
bad-hair 8/7/2022 11:48:24 AM (No. 1240624)
And the dumb azzes will get a future shock when they see the price of juice double ... triple ???
4 people like this.
Reply 4 - Posted by:
Axeman 8/7/2022 11:59:20 AM (No. 1240631)
That rising price thing is a real killer. I was lucky I had a price lock on the vehicle I ordered last Dec. By the time I took delivery 5 months later the price was up $5000 and dealers were tacking on $10,000 extra.
I could still sell it for more than I paid.
I got a survey, very detailed, asking the same questions in various different ways, about my experience and opinions concerning my purchase. A great deal of the survey was given to finding out what I thought about electric cars and what it would take to get me in one. I basically told them to put a 300+HP diesel engine in it and I will think about it.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Historybuff 8/7/2022 12:12:56 PM (No. 1240654)
subsidy is $9k. price of cars raises $10.k coincidence , or pot of gold for the dealers?
OK green califorinia what will you do with the dead batteries, and how will you have enough grid to charge them?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Highlander 8/7/2022 12:14:07 PM (No. 1240657)
The whole electric boondoggle: windmills, solar panels, and cars have proven to be impractical and unwieldy in every way. If there were no subsidies by government, none of it would have had any start in a free-market economy. Remember the Stanley Steamer? It’s another idea that had no legs. It could not compete with internal combustion.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 8/7/2022 12:22:11 PM (No. 1240663)
And they haven't even touched the monstrous Monterey shale deposit Put a few solar panels on top of the land while immeasurable BTUs lie below
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
CactusStar 8/7/2022 12:28:11 PM (No. 1240665)
Nothing says friend of the environment like a Mustang Mach-E. I'm sure that was foremost in his mind when he chose it.
3 people like this.
Reply 9 - Posted by:
MDConservative 8/7/2022 12:30:28 PM (No. 1240669)
What is it about "lower income" and the purchase of a NEW $53,000 (or $43,000 before the increase) car that seems incongruous? (And please, the "high cost of living in CA" is no factor.) The nice thing is, it wouldn't be polluting the air by idling in line at the food pantry giveaways.
4 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
rockeysroomie 8/7/2022 12:41:54 PM (No. 1240685)
I love this article mostly because it lays out how much California is spending to make us all go "Electric". Nadia Lopez forgot to mention though that California only gives off 1% of the Carbon Emissions per year worldwide. So in fact,,our politicians in this State are just wasting our valuable resources that will have no effect on decreasing total carbon emissions world wide (If in fact the reason for so called Global Warming).
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 8/7/2022 1:15:27 PM (No. 1240726)
Read the headline to the Lady Chihuahua, and she came at this from a very different perspective.
How much energy is lost in transfer? Energy is lost converting from coal or oil to electric. Energy is lost transferring from the power plant to your house, and then to your car. How much energy does it take to get a full charge on the first charge of the battery to the hundredth charge? How well does this compare to gas power?
6 people like this.
Reply 12 - Posted by:
Quigley 8/7/2022 1:28:23 PM (No. 1240729)
Can i have the subsidy if i only drive my gas guzzler 2000 miles per year? Maybe china set up hackers to get all the subsidies- public stupidity is an open invitation.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
snakeoil 8/7/2022 1:42:23 PM (No. 1240736)
My car is a gasoline powered Subaru. Some think Subarus are for the woke crowd. But, they are for old people. And I am an old people. They are loaded with safety features. When I back out of my steep driveway the backup camera thinks the street is an obstacle and slams on the brakes. So you back out slowly to give the computer a chance to analyze what it's seeing. Next year Subaru will have its first EV. Forget it. If Bidet drives the price of gas so high I can't afford it I'll get a horse.
2 people like this.
Reply 14 - Posted by:
vhs68 8/7/2022 1:43:16 PM (No. 1240737)
This article is just a discussion among morons. If you can't see the problems with all these mandates about going green, then you are totally stupid. Once stupid, you quickly move into the moron class. California deserves what is coming their way.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
kennedylaw 8/7/2022 1:44:16 PM (No. 1240740)
The goal is not for most people to buy electric cars. The goal is for most people to ride mass transit. Wealthy liberals will then be able to drive around in their electric cars without as much traffic.
5 people like this.
Reply 16 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 8/7/2022 2:09:37 PM (No. 1240765)
Electric cars are a suckers game. Everyone that buys one has been fully vaxed and boosted and wears face masks rubber gloves and has hand sanitizer in their pocket or purse. And believe Climate change is man made and real. Good luck with all that.
4 people like this.
Reply 17 - Posted by:
DVC 8/7/2022 3:16:56 PM (No. 1240803)
Nobody can really afford electric cars. Ultra expensive, very short range and very slow to "refuel".
And ultimately......powered by coal most of the time.
4 people like this.
Reply 18 - Posted by:
mifla 8/8/2022 5:48:10 AM (No. 1241154)
Can they choose between exploding or non-exploding models?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Old Army Vet 8/8/2022 8:24:46 AM (No. 1241267)
In a word, no. They don't have any infrastructure to deal with the electrical needs for charging them.
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Newsom’s grand design if a big fail. And I don’t know much about cars, but does this guy’s selection sound like a car he’d be able to afford without the subsidy even before the price went up? Grifter? (No, dears. Not all Californians voted for these morons. Did you know the Dems don’t even have a simple majority?)