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Andy McCarthy Smart But Disturbing Argument

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Posted By: earlybird, 8/9/2022 4:26:10 PM

Note, first of all, that I didn’t write “disturbing”—just disturbing. It really is. I think McCarthy is right, and someone needs to get to the bottom of it. At this juncture, the only people who could do that would be in the judiciary, if Trump should challenge the warrant—but I’m not sure how that could be done. The question comes down to a simple binary—yes or no:So here’s Andy’s argument—follow the link for the entire article which is totally worth reading:

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By the time I got got to McCarfthy’s article, here was a paywall. Much of it is quoted here along with Wauck’s further analysis. .Wauck is a retired FBI Special Agent and lawyer.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 8/9/2022 4:45:17 PM (No. 1243082)
It's the President who decides which documents are classified and which are not, and can declassify anything at any time without any process.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Xokie2 8/9/2022 5:52:26 PM (No. 1243139)
i think that everyone has overlooked the obvious. The real reason for the raid was to make Trump supporters so angry that it would inspire an armed rebellion, with serious amounts of violence. The left truly believes that the right is a bunch of gun-loving Hitler worshipping loons just looking for an excuse to start a new civil war. Trouble is, at all previous demonstrations the right were peaceful, polite, respectful, solid citizens from all backgrounds and ethnic groups who just don't look like loony revolutionists. Being short of a crazed mob of armed revolutionaries, it became necessary to manufacture one, much like manufacturing race hoaxes. How better to do that than to directly demean and humiliate Trump. invade his home, insult his entire being. What the right now must do is make sure no one actually does anything crazy as all of this stuff rebounds to the detriment of the Democrats. The net effect should be highly positive for all Trump supporting Republican candidates for the House and Senate.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: MDConservative 8/9/2022 6:08:18 PM (No. 1243149)
There is little doubt that the Wyoming soothsayer Liz Cheney is right when she crows about future indictments. They're coming. The charges are immaterial. It's the effect of being indicted, with a public perp walk with wall-to-wall reruns, that makes that UNIPARTY crowd salivate. This is politics-to-the-death; an actual Armageddon. They are NOT allowing Napoleon back from Elbe. They have no desire to waste their investment in the '20 selection. They have no desire to repeat the fraud, either. Without Trump on the ballot, the eventual winner matters little regardless of party affiliation. The cabal will continue its spending of TRILLIONS in pursuit of inflation reduction, spread around appropriately. Of course, one is free to believe that electing Republicans will turn the tide, reinforcing Mitch, Lindsey, Mitt and the whole gang of dependable and courageous patriots. Now, take the pundits' advice du jour and keep your powder dry...i.e don't do anything.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: sw penn 8/9/2022 6:42:43 PM (No. 1243187)
"[S]o it could search for what it is really looking for: evidence that would tie Trump to a Capitol riot offense – either a violent crime, such as seditious conspiracy to forcibly attack a government installation (which is highly unlikely), or a non-violent crime, such as conspiracy to obstruct the January 6 joint session of Congress to count electoral votes, or conspiracy to defraud the government." Or, to just be in a position to say they had found evidence. You know, like a birth certificate, from Hawaii... I wouldn't trust these people as far as I could throw them by their shadow...
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Reply 5 - Posted by: john56 8/9/2022 6:43:04 PM (No. 1243188)
I'm not a lawyer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I cannot see why anyone would do anything but exercise their 5th amendment rights on any subpoena from the J6 Witch Hunt or any Biden DOJ show trial/grand jury. Assuming the GOP can at least win the House, it's a question about being able to run out the clock until the end of the year .
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Reply 6 - Posted by: danu 8/9/2022 7:40:24 PM (No. 1243248)
the banana regime may love 'historical events in numerology' as much as some other folks we know. many have observed that 11th of sept, for example, seems to have been a favoured date since biblical times.. 8th august represented a day of martyrdom-many centuries ago, which can still provoke sectarian violence abroad: security forces in the streets, blocking phones and the like. here in florida, it's about devisiveness, persecution, and unconstitutional lawlessness under multi-faceted false pretence.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 8/9/2022 8:16:39 PM (No. 1243288)
FTA, the last few sentences put together what the garlic man and the deep state have up their sleeves - "It would suggest to a, hopefully, gullible public that, convicted or not, a Trump candidacy would be open to plunging the country into turmoil. That tricky part, of course, is that the Zhou regime has already done that, and the establishment knowingly did that with its coup against Trump. Dating back to when the Deep State and the Ruling Class first practiced to weave its tangled web of deception, otherwise known as the Russia Hoax. The country still hasn’t forgotten that." So in due course, it will be up to the dims' propaganda arm, the msm, to convince a "gullible public" that a Trump candidacy is not worth the time, effort, or support. In what was once the greatest Constitutional Republic on the planet, it has come down to this. The People vs. the deep state aka the federal government of the United States. We are ready for this, yes?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: kono 8/9/2022 8:44:49 PM (No. 1243324)
Nonsensical lede makes this click bait.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 8/10/2022 5:07:49 AM (No. 1243527)
Of course Garland is out to get 45. Lame Duck approved Garland's action against 45. Garland didn't do it w/o Lame Duck's approval. Garland better not miss as he risks making 45 a political martyr and ensuring that 45 becomes 47. If the red wave succeeds in November, Garland will find himself before Congress faster than Speedy Gonzalez escaping Sylvester. He can then blame Lame Duck for the action.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Red Jeep 8/10/2022 7:25:47 AM (No. 1243579)
Remember, to Liberals, it's the seriousness of the charge that matters, not the evidence.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Rinktum 8/10/2022 7:46:52 AM (No. 1243600)
With this raid against a former President democrats have shown us they are prepared to do whatever is necessary to prevent President Trump from running for Office. They have risked it all and now their very future hinges upon their success. They have nothing to lose by rolling the dice on this dangerous strategy because they have no other option except the unthinkable to prevent President Trump from seeking the office that was stolen from him. They know him, his popularity and his determination to prevent democrats from finishing off the Republic. He is the only thing standing in their way. No one, not even DeSantis as much as I love him, could stand up to the war that would be waged against him when he announces as a candidate. The Rinos don’t want him because he is too much like Trump and democrats would release their hounds from Hades to destroy him. Democrats believe they have enough power to ride this out. They know the media will support them and that the American people are largely a peaceful lot who are not given to violence. If you are a democrat or a democrat supporter or even a Trump hater, the risk is worth it. They will drag this out as long as they can to try and wear down any support President Trump has. They have set the narrative and all they have to do is run with it. Each day that goes by without serious pushback from Republicans is a good day for democrats. They have considered the risk and believe it is acceptable. Are Republican leaders going to let this play out without fighting back? Most likely and democrats are counting on that. Just like they did following the November 3rd election fraud.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: privateer 8/10/2022 7:59:52 AM (No. 1243613)
the first commenter on the article reminds us of this quote from PDJT: 'He also said the Clintons are “good people” and that “I don’t want to hurt them.” ' Maybe what he really meant was: the Clintons are BAD people...and I don't want them to hurt ME.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: msjena 8/10/2022 8:11:52 AM (No. 1243627)
The Democrats are the ones engaged in a coup. First, with the two sham impeachments. Next, with the private money scheme in the swing states. And now, with a weaponized Justice Department.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: msjena 8/10/2022 8:12:28 AM (No. 1243628)
^^Oh, and I forgot--the January 6 show trial committee.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Strike3 8/10/2022 8:29:30 AM (No. 1243650)
#2, that is exactly how the left views conservatives. I'm sure that the French royalty viewed the peasants in much the same way and Batista viewed the Cuban revolutionaries as rabble that lived in the jungle, right up until the time that the doors of their castles were beaten down. Revolution is a last resort, a remedy when all else has been exhausted, but never take it off the table if it's the only solution. At this point, it very well may be but we need to make damned sure that the new leadership is not another Fidel Castro.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: tootall 8/10/2022 8:40:26 AM (No. 1243661)
If the object of this raid was to remove any incriminating evidence the President might have in any number of areas, I would suggest that whatever one thinks of DJT, he is not stupid. There are multiple copies of this stuff in a variety of places. Furthermore, the DOJ and deep state know that too! The real object of this exercise was to find out what the President has! And if you don't think what was left in the file cabinet for the FBI to find was exactly what DJT wanted them to find, I would suggest you don't know very much about this man's history, and how he has approached situations in the past. You might not like his word, or 'aura', but he gets things done.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Zigrid 8/10/2022 10:12:25 AM (No. 1243760)
Out here in fly over country...which I now will call MAGA country people are furious...and if the democrats tried to humiliate President Trump...they have done the opposite ...WE are law abiding citizens and will not march on Washington...no matter how much soros tries to anger WE the people so he can call out martial law and shut down movement of the people...it's another covid lock down he's looking for....monkeypox lock down and vaccines for big Pharma isn't working for DC...and they are desperate...
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Red Ghost 8/10/2022 11:17:01 AM (No. 1243841)
Mega Dittos Rinktum. I too love DeSantis, but there is no one on this planet, with the cujones of Donald J. Trump, no one. He is the only one that can save this Republic and ultimately the world from authoritarian rule. I believe the unthinkable IS on the table and should the raid not work and backfire, the unthinkable will be attempted. But, I fear with all of the pundits saying, given the FBI's history with the Russia Hoax, if this raid proves to be a dead end, both the FBI and DOJ's reputations truly will be destroyed. Not sure why anyone thinks their reputations are not already destroyed, but that said, what I fear the most is that it's not the documents the FBI seized, it's the documents the FBI planted. If they can't find the smoking gun, then they will manufacture it just as they manufactured the Russia Hoax. Desperate people do desperate things and there will be new "found" evidence that will ignite the Donald J. Trump perp walk.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: jasmine 8/10/2022 1:56:38 PM (No. 1244012)
In the NY Post article, McCarthy wrote "The Justice Department obviously used the potential classified information as a pretext to obtain a warrant so it could search for what it is really looking for: evidence that would tie Trump to a Capitol riot offense – either a violent crime, such as seditious conspiracy to forcibly attack a government installation (which is highly unlikely), or a non-violent crime, such as conspiracy to obstruct the January 6 joint session of Congress to count electoral votes, or conspiracy to defraud the government." He say it would be "...foolhardy for the Biden Justice Department to indict a former president on such debatable non-violent crime charges. That is especially so when it comes to a former president who could be the 2024 Republican nominee, since such charges would fuel the perception that Democrats are using the Justice Department as a political weapon." McCarthy goes on to say that in order to bring conspiracy charges against Trump, "...DOJ would need to prove that Trump clearly knew that the 2020 election was not stolen by fraud, yet willfully persisted in deceptive schemes to prevent Congress from counting the state-certified votes that would establish Biden’s victory." He closes by saying "The Biden Justice Department is under enormous pressure from the Democratic base to indict Trump, and it is straining to deliver. But what it is trying to deliver is a Capitol riot case, not a case of mishandling classified documents." Always remember, The Russia Hoax was an attempt by US government officials to frame a sitting president, Donald Trump, as a Russian asset. January 6 is constantly portrayed as a violent event carried out by Donald Trump's minions at his command. Having seen how Democrats (and a few cowardly Republicans) conducted themselves in President Trump's first term, I've seen enough. They don't trust Americans with the truth. They engaged in managed deception of the American people. Which makes them undeserving of the trust we once gave them.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: ldb51 8/10/2022 3:17:03 PM (No. 1244097)
#9, are you suggesting that Mr. Garland should watch his back between now and Nov., lest Lame Duck goes "duck-hunting"?
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