Race must be considered in determining
legality of police stops and seizures,
WA state Supreme Court rules
Seattle Times,
by
David Gutman
Original Article
Posted By: Ron_lfp,
6/14/2022 11:16:22 AM
The Washington state Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that a person’s race, and law enforcement’s long history of discrimination against people of color, should be taken into account when determining the legality of police seizures.
The court also clarified state law to say police have seized a person if an objective observer would conclude that the person was not free to leave or refuse a request. But, the court wrote, that “objective observer” must be aware that discrimination and biases “have resulted in disproportionate police contacts, investigative seizures, and uses of force against Black, Indigenous, and other people of color.”
Reply 1 - Posted by:
3XALADY 6/14/2022 11:23:46 AM (No. 1185525)
I guess it doesn't matter that 75% of the crime is committed by a portion of 13% of our population? Have people lost their mind, especially the judiciary?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 6/14/2022 11:28:01 AM (No. 1185532)
What if the person is only half black? And some whites can have a dark complexion - especially Greeks and some Italians. The cop with have to do a quick Genetic origins test before turning on the siren.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
singermom9 6/14/2022 11:30:09 AM (No. 1185536)
If I were a police officer I would NEVER EVER pull over ANYONE of color. Let them alone. Never help them or detain them. My father used to say, "how dumb can you be". Between shooting each other and aborting their babies they will soon be extinct. But don't come complaining to me when bad stuff happens. You want to be left alone. So be it.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 6/14/2022 11:38:09 AM (No. 1185550)
Two years ago, activist groups went before the Washington state Supreme Court agitating for the release of ALL prisoners over the age of 50 because of the threat of catching Covid. By a vote of 5 to 4 they ruled not to release them. So by ONE VOTE, the Green River Killer, Gary Ridgeway is still in prison. This is a man convicted of murdering over 50 women and authorities believe he is responsible for at least 100 missing women presumed to be dead. Also another monster, David Rice Lewis, who murdered a family of four, the dad, mom and two young boys during a home invasion on Christmas Ever 1985 would have been released.
And a law passed last year, Washington state police cannot pursue a car unless a violent felony is involved, impairment, or if the driver is causing a danger to the public. Cops have to get Supervisor approval before engaging in pursuit. Consequently, this year a few thousand people have refused to pull over for traffic violations.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 6/14/2022 11:38:44 AM (No. 1185552)
THIS is your systemic racism, and it is ALWAYS in favor of blacks and against whites and asians.
LOTS of racism today, it's everywhere, baked into everything, and all of it is anti-white, and anti-asian.
31 people like this.
Reply 6 - Posted by:
rockeysroomie 6/14/2022 11:46:30 AM (No. 1185561)
#2-people from India too.
9 people like this.
Reply 7 - Posted by:
stablemoney 6/14/2022 11:59:04 AM (No. 1185571)
Why is communist Washington state so racist?
14 people like this.
Reply 8 - Posted by:
jimboscott 6/14/2022 12:12:07 PM (No. 1185587)
As long as one keeps score, race will be an issue. Keeping score, alone, creates sides.
13 people like this.
Reply 9 - Posted by:
curious1 6/14/2022 12:35:33 PM (No. 1185616)
Hmm, that sounds like it violates federal law regarding making police decisions depending on the race of the suspect.
17 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
Grateful 6/14/2022 1:03:01 PM (No. 1185634)
Justice is 'blind' except in the State of Washington. I'm sure the 13% who commit most of the crimes are celebrating this decision by the state.
12 people like this.
Reply 11 - Posted by:
skacmar 6/14/2022 1:04:16 PM (No. 1185636)
The legal spaghetti and linguistic gymnastics needed to come up with this type of ruling are incomprehensible to most common sense Americans. Bottom line on this case is the man fled from the police after lying about who he was arousing suspicions they might not have had leading to him being convicted of more crimes than those he was already wanted for. Now he is claiming that his rights were violated because of his race? These judges stretch their interpretation of the Constitution to like silly putty to fit their liberal agenda. That they can make such illogical nonsensical rulings with a straight face is ridiculous.
16 people like this.
Reply 12 - Posted by:
mc squared 6/14/2022 1:12:33 PM (No. 1185641)
Being white Im expected to obey the law, or I'll get hauled to the hoosegow.
8 people like this.
Reply 13 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 6/14/2022 2:19:20 PM (No. 1185697)
But what about sexual orientation!? Now we are talking real police discrimination.
6 people like this.
Reply 14 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 6/14/2022 2:45:49 PM (No. 1185722)
A preview of SCOTUS decisions if the Marxist/Democrats get to pack the court as they hope to do.
7 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 6/14/2022 2:47:28 PM (No. 1185723)
I agree with #5. For many years I worked closely with many municipal police department and county Sheriff's Offices. By far the greatest prejudice and unjustified (brutal) physical attacks were black officers against whites, including weak and defenseless white women who were pulled over because a tail light on their vehicle was out, or an "improper lane change." They also brutalized white college students.
5 people like this.
Reply 16 - Posted by:
Venturer 6/14/2022 2:49:16 PM (No. 1185728)
A get out of jail free card for blacks.
4 people like this.
Reply 17 - Posted by:
Lazyman 6/14/2022 2:50:19 PM (No. 1185731)
No individual responsibility. This is MLKs dream?
3 people like this.
Reply 18 - Posted by:
24tea@Mag 6/14/2022 2:54:35 PM (No. 1185737)
It’s all bull!
3 people like this.
Reply 19 - Posted by:
coyote 6/14/2022 2:55:58 PM (No. 1185738)
Equality before the law, is the law of the land.
5 people like this.
Reply 20 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 6/14/2022 2:56:51 PM (No. 1185740)
Sounds like a violation of the Equal Protection Clause on its face.
7 people like this.
Reply 21 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 6/14/2022 3:02:16 PM (No. 1185747)
So, in other words, the"objective observer" must be biased in favor of persons of color or he's not objective in the correct way.
Yep, I get it.
5 people like this.
Reply 22 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 6/14/2022 3:06:15 PM (No. 1185750)
Watch our judiciary usher in the breakdown of law. There will be consequences.
4 people like this.
Reply 23 - Posted by:
jasmine 6/14/2022 3:13:23 PM (No. 1185752)
FTA: "The Washington state Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that a person’s race, and law enforcement’s long history of discrimination against people of color, should be taken into account when determining the legality of police seizures."
This is asinine. Police are not mind readers. That's why they ask questions. Police cannot do their jobs if a category of subjects get to "flee the interview" based upon guesses that may or may not be accurate about the subject's race, ethnicity, or social history. My home state has become an embarrassment over the years. The lack of stewardship over Seattle and other majestic towns and cities throughout the state shows the depraved nature of the "leadership." There is something wrong with people bent on destroying communities and lifestyles folks used to be proud of.
5 people like this.
Reply 24 - Posted by:
RedWhite&Blue2 6/14/2022 4:51:00 PM (No. 1185802)
"people of color"
Another pile of radical left narrative doggy doo
EVERYBODY has color!
3 people like this.
Reply 25 - Posted by:
ms1234 6/14/2022 5:38:39 PM (No. 1185829)
Time for me to break out the black face paint and start committing crimes! ;-)
1 person likes this.
Reply 26 - Posted by:
Omen55 6/14/2022 5:48:01 PM (No. 1185832)
This will go up to SCOTUS under equal protection.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Scribelus 6/14/2022 6:55:38 PM (No. 1185880)
Could we please trade Washington for Alberta?
0 people like this.
Reply 28 - Posted by:
MickTurn 6/14/2022 7:21:58 PM (No. 1185900)
I'm of the Pink Race, how does that get me a total pass?
0 people like this.
Reply 29 - Posted by:
paral04 6/14/2022 9:36:42 PM (No. 1185989)
Enough already! I don't care what color you are. Obey the laws.
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A major pro-crime action. In the heat of stopping a crime Washington state police must stop and consider the long history of discrimination by police against people of color.