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Who Really Committed War Crimes in Bucha?

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Posted By: earlybird, 4/10/2022 6:16:53 PM

The reports and photographs showing an apparent massacre in Bucha, Ukraine, are truly terrible.(snip)Of course, pictures do not always tell the whole story. For example, to determine whether a war crime took place we must know who did the killing, why, and how.(snip)If civilians were shot and purposefully killed in Bucha, it undoubtedly would be a war crime and a terrible thing. But there are credible reasons to believe the so-called Bucha Massacre was not the doing of the Russian Forces, but rather of the Ukrainians—either local militia or SBU or some combination of thereof—as part of brutal reprisals against “saboteurs” and “Russian collaborators.”

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Roach mentions what I had noticed: The mayor of Bucha celebrated its liberation on March 30 without any mention of murdered civilians in the streets. We didn’t hear of that until several days later. From another report we are told that temporary burial in mass graves is done during wartime because burial in individual graves is too dangerous. It was difficult to believe that the bodies showin in the street days after the Russians had left showed no signs of decomposition. Bindings used on hands were pristine clean white. Things that create doubts.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: RuckusTom 4/10/2022 6:43:26 PM (No. 1124925)
Extreme turmoil in a nation (e.g. an invasion) is a great way for gangs to take of business.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Kate318 4/10/2022 10:01:12 PM (No. 1125053)
Thank you, OP. Stay on target.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: MDConservative 4/10/2022 11:22:27 PM (No. 1125096)
I don't believe anything about any of this tod/written by anyone. Both sides are known liars, and occasionally very good ones. More COVIDS fear porn, anyone?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: chumley 4/10/2022 11:35:13 PM (No. 1125108)
Keep in mind that the first casualty in any war is the truth. I dont believe anything that comes from any side, including our own. Been lied to too many times.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Subsuburban 4/11/2022 5:59:29 AM (No. 1125159)
Shortly after this conflict began with Russia's incursion into Ukraine territorial space, I noticed that war drums were being loudly beaten by many here in America. The drummers were frequently those whom one would think to be generally opposed to armed conflict anywhere, so my index of suspicion began to rise. Particularly when the Biden cabal and its naive supporters (as well as "true believers" began to heighten the rhetorical attacks on Putin, it occurred to me that something was not adding up. The propaganda flowing out of Zelensky along with his petulant demands for western assistance, if not actual involvement also caused me a good deal of pause. As matters have progressed, I have on numerous occasions posted comments similar to those in this article, not supporting Putin by a long stretch and actually condemning him for initiating hostilities, which were frequently met with virulent replies accusing me of being a Putin stooge, a Russian collaborator, anti-American and anti-democratic. I remain skeptical and urge everyone else to be so. This is not our war, there is no American interest at stake and the Biden cabal's response has convinced me that there are nefarious political reasons behind everything said and done by them in the name of "democracy." With all the massive disruptions being perpetrated by our own government under the cabal's anti-American agenda, we have more than enough trouble within our own borders. Meanwhile, never forget that "wag the dog" is a favorite distraction technique of our government masters. God bless America, may she soon arise and throw out the traitors currently running things in Washington, DC. And God help us if the cabal leads us into open conflict with Russia in order to further cement its hold on power.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: JrSample 4/11/2022 8:29:19 AM (No. 1125226)
Yes, it is just so difficult to believe that the stinking russians would massacre unarmed civilians. I mean, they have always been such nice people. Just unbelievable that a poorly trained, undisciplined, amateurish army who can't succeed in combat against an actual professional Army would take out their frustration on unarmed civilians. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the truth.
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