New York City is banning natural gas hookups
for new buildings to fight climate change
CNBC,
by
Emma Newburger
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
12/15/2021 4:49:54 PM
The New York City Council on Wednesday voted to pass legislation banning the use of natural gas in most new construction, a move that will substantially slash climate-changing greenhouse gas emissions from the country’s most populous city. (Snip) Under the law, construction projects submitted for approval after 2027 must use sources like electricity for stoves, space heaters and water boilers instead of gas or oil. Residents who currently have gas stoves and heaters in their homes will not be impacted unless they relocate to a new building. New York state was the sixth largest natural gas consumer in the country
Reply 1 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 12/15/2021 4:54:39 PM (No. 1008269)
Are they also mandating the building of new power plants to generate the electricity to power all these new appliances and electric cars? They forget that most power in this country is generated by fossil fuels - natural gas and coal. Hydropower, solar, wind, nuclear and biomass generate only a small percentage of our power needs.
Our politicians are idiots.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
SALady 12/15/2021 4:56:07 PM (No. 1008270)
Socialism -- coming to a Demon-Rat run city near you very soon!!!
NYC and most of Cuba-fornia are just test sites to see how well they can force this evil on the peasants before the peasants say "no more"!!!! They are succeeding beyond their wildest Communist fantasies!!!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
aasilver 12/15/2021 5:00:32 PM (No. 1008279)
Cali-fornia is in the midst of shutting down its last nuclear power plant - Diablo in SLO county.
The Liberals are insane.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
skacmar 12/15/2021 5:05:10 PM (No. 1008284)
Wait until the first big hurricane, blackout, ice storm, or other power grid disruption and see how wonderful the all electric buildings and electric car thing is then. I can picture some foreign hackers cutting off the NYC electric power grid during a blizzard and holding the city for ransom. Only old gas and oil heated buildings will have any heat. All those electric cars and snowplows won't be able to be recharged so no snow clean-up. Every city dweller will be trapped inside, freezing wondering why this is happening to them.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Historybuff 12/15/2021 5:05:22 PM (No. 1008285)
Please show cause and effect. Show your work,
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
SALady 12/15/2021 5:10:20 PM (No. 1008288)
#4, as brainwashed as they are, sadly (if they don't freeze to death) they will still vote for all the same Demon-Rats that did this to them in the next election...
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
downnout 12/15/2021 5:13:00 PM (No. 1008290)
Chefs will not be pleased. Cooking with gas is much better than electric.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Birddog 12/15/2021 5:20:07 PM (No. 1008295)
Fine!! Do it! Do it! in fact turn off ALL current gas lines/hook ups/pipelines...
Then when the "Real" insurrection starts and we rascally deplorables take down the powerlines into the City, ALL of your "Constituents" can freeze in the dark until they deliver your HEADS across the bridges we have blocked in/out of the city.
We of course, as "Gentlemen", would NEVER do anything sooo violent, but your restive, savage, "subjects" most certainly will.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
jimincalif 12/15/2021 5:28:30 PM (No. 1008300)
FTA: "a move that will substantially slash climate-changing greenhouse gas emissions from the country’s most populous city."
So instead of burning gas to cook food and heat living space, the electric utility will have to burn gas to create heat, which then drives turbines to convert heat into motion, generators convert the motion into electricity. It goes out over the grid where there is voltage drop over the transmission lines, it goes thru transformers to step down to 240v for the home, then the stove and furnace convert the electricity back into heat. And everyone who went to middle school before they became woke learns that every time energy is converted from one form to another there are losses, nothing is 100% efficient. Uh, like science and stuff.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
janjan 12/15/2021 5:51:53 PM (No. 1008326)
Decisions again being made by people with a political agenda and no clue whatsoever. The electric companies are heartily endorsing this ridiculous plan for obvious reasons. Utilities in NYC will end up costing as much as rent. It is impossible to feel sorry for people who go to the polls and request these people to rule them.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 12/15/2021 5:55:11 PM (No. 1008330)
Evil people in charge, and they do evil things. Natural gas heating is as near to 100% efficiency that you will ever get in this life. If you have the old fashioned blue flame wall heaters....pretty much 100% of the energy heats your home. If you have a furnace system, the newest and most efficient models are about 96% efficient, wasting just 4% of the energy in the gas.
OTOH....run that into a central power station...and you get 35-40% of the energy in the gas out as electrical energy....the rest is wasted. So, direct nat gas heating is the best possible use for the gas.
But these climate crazies are too dim and propagandized to listen to facts.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
rikkitikki 12/15/2021 6:15:34 PM (No. 1008353)
And they're doing it without any credible science that demonstrates a link between anthropogenic CO2 emissions and global warming. Until they explain the several dozen ice ages in the past, they have no credible argument...period.
Only consider...these are the same nimwits that are mandating the public be forced to take an experimental drug which has not passed standard double-blind studies, that doesn't prevent infection or transmission, but does cause serious and life threatening side effects, to treat a pandemic that was never a pandemic in the first place, and one for which cheap, effective, and safe therapeutics are proven to work and are readily available.
These people are beyond idiotic...they've gone insane in what history will show to be mass psychosis on a national scale.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
bad-hair 12/15/2021 6:25:06 PM (No. 1008360)
Hey New Yawk. Back in the day in Nova Scotia they didn't have to ban gas. There was none. Do what we did. Run electric heat and keep a good hot wood stove in the basement. If you're in a apartment on the 23rd floor keep a REALLY hot wood stove in the basement. Only about 4 cords of firewood each winter.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Owney 12/15/2021 6:25:18 PM (No. 1008361)
Wait! They won't need any heat...because of global warming. But the thing about space heaters...it's not that they start any fires or or trip your breakers or anything like that. I remember during the dark and cold Carter years in Minnesota. During the winter people died because they were burning kerosene indoors. It's all good. No worries.😖
3 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
LanceLink1 12/15/2021 6:30:27 PM (No. 1008366)
Attempting to drive down the need for natural gas believing they can eliminate the fracking process and energy independence.
Won't work.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
mort 12/15/2021 6:35:23 PM (No. 1008371)
My birth city has not only become a crap hole but also stupid. Then again, vote woke, go broke.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
JackBurton 12/15/2021 7:10:52 PM (No. 1008396)
On the bright side...
...no banning boilers that use coal.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 12/15/2021 7:22:54 PM (No. 1008409)
Another reason to not live in NYC.
The left has this vision of how people should live their lives. They don't want to admit it doesn't work. Especially if they get rich and powerful in the process.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
MickTurn 12/15/2021 7:49:02 PM (No. 1008423)
Well we in Texas can bottle Cow Flatulence and sent it to New Jerk City...will that work for you Commies?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
john56 12/15/2021 8:08:18 PM (No. 1008439)
Hah. A few miles from my house is a power generating plant. A friend of mine was the gm and opened if years ago. Got four generating units. Three run on natural gas and the fourth on the steam from the three natural gas generators. Why did they build it here? Well, there are three major natural gas pipelines that run within miles of the plant. One of the things they did in building the plant was hook up to all three lines. That way, they buy the gas from who ever gives them the cheapest price.
Reminds me of the picture of the electric car charging unit. Powered by a diesel generator.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 12/15/2021 9:00:34 PM (No. 1008467)
Idiots! Window Dressing!
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
hershey 12/15/2021 9:36:35 PM (No. 1008489)
Yep, with all the smokestacks popping up the town will look like London in the 1800's...You just can't fix stupid, but if you have any sense, you can vote it out of office...
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But, but, but..... global warming isn't heating NYC houses?
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 12/15/2021 11:15:05 PM (No. 1008537)
Windmill for every resident in the city! Not blowing today? Awww! Another liberal scheme down the toilet!
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
kewmac 12/15/2021 11:22:02 PM (No. 1008540)
FNYC & FJB
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
heartsurgeon 12/16/2021 12:51:01 AM (No. 1008563)
being dependant in a single energy source for heating, cooling, cooking, travel....what could possibly go wrong.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Trigger2 12/16/2021 1:43:10 AM (No. 1008577)
Fools. Elect a demonrat or a straight out communist and this is your future.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Kumoan 12/17/2021 3:01:22 AM (No. 1009756)
Luckily, electric chairs will still be viable. And necessary...
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This is insane. All-electric utilities will cost a fortune.