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Posted By: Magnante, 10/22/2021 3:14:37 AM

Preliminarily, it is tragic that 42-year-old Halyna Hutchins, a rising cinematographer in Hollywood, died yesterday on the set of Rust, a movie being filmed in Santa Fe, New Mexico. My thoughts are with the loved ones she left behind. Having said that, I cannot escape a feeling that karma had a hand in this one because the finger on the trigger of the gun that killed Hutchins belonged to Alec Baldwin, a hysterical leftist who is fanatically opposed to the Second Amendment. To give a sense of Baldwin’s hostility to gun rights, in 2018, the smug and constitutionally illiterate Baldwin had some harsh words for Dana Loesch, an NRA spokeswoman

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Log Cabin Preacher 10/22/2021 4:20:28 AM (No. 953625)
I'm no fan of Baldwin, but this feels to be too soon. We still don't know exactly what happened.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: chumley 10/22/2021 4:23:09 AM (No. 953626)
I dont like him either. He's way too Hollywood and has the ego to prove it. I fear this will make him even more rabid as an anti gunner. "If this could happen to me, it could happen to you in the unwashed, unwoke masses."
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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney 10/22/2021 4:37:51 AM (No. 953635)
Why is he pointing a gun at staff and pulling the trigger?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: KatieJo 10/22/2021 5:04:40 AM (No. 953649)
Gun advocates are serious about gun safety. Will we ever know how live rounds got into the gun? I have not had firearms training but I was strongly emphasized to me--at a young age--that you never point a gun at anyone you don't intend to kill.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: mifla 10/22/2021 5:08:30 AM (No. 953652)
Alec, if you are anti-gun, why are you making a movie with guns in it? I hope the family sues.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: SweetPea3 10/22/2021 5:36:25 AM (No. 953666)
Wife beater.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Kitty Myers 10/22/2021 5:50:39 AM (No. 953671)
FTA: "Hollywood, more than any institution in America, sells the glamour and power of guns." And drugs and sex and crime.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: F15 Gork 10/22/2021 6:15:33 AM (No. 953679)
Guns don’t kill people, democrats do.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Digiconver 10/22/2021 6:35:26 AM (No. 953687)
What many people and particularly gun idiots like Alec Baldwin don't understand is that the plastic wad in a blank fired at close range can kill someone just as dead as a bullet. Is this what happened? Too soon to tell but I wouldn't be surprised.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: WildBill357 10/22/2021 6:45:12 AM (No. 953695)
I would like to see the reference that validates that a projectiless shotgun shell wad can kill at point plank range.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: mobyclik 10/22/2021 6:46:24 AM (No. 953698)
Charge the ol' commie with murder just for the hell of it.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DW626 10/22/2021 6:50:51 AM (No. 953700)
Among all that has been written and said at this juncture, #3 asks the most pertinent question. Why indeed point with your finger on the trigger?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Ruhn 10/22/2021 7:06:23 AM (No. 953710)
A few missing pieces to the puzzle from the initial report. As an aside, the initial reports are always wrong. A few thoughts: A true “prop gun” is just that; a prop. No moving parts, made of plastic or rubber, and made to look like the real thing. Some prop guns can fire pyrotechnics to simulate the muzzle burst. However, what Baldwin allegedly used was an actual working firearm. Since the set is a Western, let’s assume he fired a revolver modified to fire blanks. What gets a little sketchy is how he fatally wounded the cinematographer AND wounded the director on set. This can’t be part of the scene. My take: more will come out in the days ahead. Manslaughter? Perhaps. Not versed enough in the nuances of NM law on the legal consequences. At a minimum, IMO, Baldwin’s career is effectively over. The man is now a pariah in media circles He has to live with this for the rest of his life as well.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: JrSample 10/22/2021 7:26:13 AM (No. 953726)
''You are worthress Arec Bardwin.'' - Kim Jong IL
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 10/22/2021 7:37:36 AM (No. 953735)
There are few confirmed facts known about this incident. No one knows for sure that Baldwin pulled the trigger. A Daily Mail article said, “his prop firearm unintentionally discharged.” Later in the article, an actor was quoted, 'I can’t even fathom how this is possible. So many people had to be negligent. This is a crime. Halyna was a tremendous talent. I’m sick to my stomach.' So, we’ll have to wait. In this matter I think the truth is going to come out.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Strike3 10/22/2021 7:38:12 AM (No. 953736)
Accidents like this should never happen and this one is more stupidity and neglect than an accident. Still, it could not have happened to a bigger jerk than Baldwin. We had his number the day he called his daughter a "little bit@h" on the telephone during one of his divorce battles. He is not a decent human being.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: RobertJ984 10/22/2021 7:39:19 AM (No. 953737)
Beetlejuice - Beetlejuice - Beetlejuice
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Reply 18 - Posted by: dst4life 10/22/2021 7:52:11 AM (No. 953745)
Aldwin's recklessness will shut him down forever. At least he will no longer be running his mouth against Dana Loesch.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Sully 10/22/2021 8:13:45 AM (No. 953762)
#1 agreed. No details yet, but if he was green lighted to shoot a prop gun... The man is a DH. His hypocrisy for glorifying gun violence for money is a topic for another day. Let's don't savor his suffering or her death. We are not progressives. If you have faith say a prayer for this poor bastd.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Digiconver 10/22/2021 8:19:21 AM (No. 953770)
Good point #10. I've never actually seen stats on this either but I do know that discharging a 12 ga dog blank from two feet will blow the wad right through 5/8" dry wall. Many people think rhat because it's a blank it can't hurr anyone so proper gun safety can be ignored - bad thinking all around.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: homefry 10/22/2021 8:25:51 AM (No. 953776)
Shades of Brandon Lee? Was that his name? The actor who stupidly thought he could pretend to shoot himself with a prop gun without harm. Put it to his temple and pulled the trigger not realizing that the power was still there, just no lead. The impact killed him dead as Peachland NC at 2 A.M.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: TCloud 10/22/2021 8:27:10 AM (No. 953777)
A true and natural Brown Shirt! Auchtung and snapping of heels says Vern!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: harleynyc 10/22/2021 8:30:59 AM (No. 953783)
Maybe she said 'Somebody shoot me' after having to endure Baldwins endless hissy fits.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: RayLRiv 10/22/2021 8:43:28 AM (No. 953793)
Sucks to be you, Alec
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Reply 25 - Posted by: rabblerouser 10/22/2021 8:58:11 AM (No. 953809)
I knew this guy was going to end up killing somebody before he croaked, but I always figured it would be his wife or a member of the paparazzi. He'll get away with it, though.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: privateer 10/22/2021 9:01:09 AM (No. 953811)
Without knowing all the facts, I can safely suppose he is not a murderer. But from now on, he CAN be described as a 'killer'. Killer Baldwin. Nice legacy.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: VietVet68 10/22/2021 9:10:50 AM (No. 953820)
If the gun had blanks only a shooting at close range could injure someone. That said it shows how anti gun liberals have no respect for weapons and don't know that a gun should never be pointed at anyone unless you intend to use it. Bottom line...Baldwin, an anti gun advocate has now killed/injured more people with his prop gun than I ever did with my real guns.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: PCMM 10/22/2021 9:11:30 AM (No. 953821)
That’s perfect, #26. Drive it home on this lout. Don’t allow this rat another day of peace on this planet. Maybe he’ll end it the way he did the director of cinematography. Not sorry.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: paral04 10/22/2021 9:19:01 AM (No. 953830)
If Alec Baldwin would have shut up for five minutes and learned how to handle a gun, this would never have happened. You don't play around pulling triggers nor do you ever aim a gun at anyone unless you have to. The prop guy has some explaining to do also. Especially when he knew he was dealing with that smart ass Baldwin.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: toddh 10/22/2021 9:38:13 AM (No. 953857)
#21 - A bored Jon-Erik Hexum played Russian roulette w/ a blank and killed himself. IIRC (it was 1984), they even misspelled his name for the "In Memory Of" credits.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 10/22/2021 9:38:25 AM (No. 953858)
#3 puts this in to perspective. Why is Baldwin pointing a gun at the staff and pulling the trigger? No way that's part of the script. Rehearsing a scene perhaps. Baldwin will use this as a reason to ban guns. Always assume the gun is loaded. If its not loaded, what's the point? The gun becomes the equivalent of a rock.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: TexaTucky 10/22/2021 9:45:40 AM (No. 953870)
According to his own assessment of those who have accidents with guns, Alec Baldwin is a terrorist. Paraphrasing his other observations from back during the Cheney situation: “So, I suppose the question is....what kind of civil trial will we see, or not see, between and ? . . . Will pay them off, preemptively? Will they go to court? . . . . Whoever thought would be the answer to America's prayers. Finally, someone who might get that lying, thieving into a courtroom to answer some direct questions.”
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Reply 33 - Posted by: TexaTucky 10/22/2021 9:48:00 AM (No. 953874)
According to his own assessment of those who have accidents with guns, Alec Baldwin is a terrorist. Paraphrasing his other observations from back during the Cheney situation: “So, I suppose the question is....what kind of civil trial will we see, or not see, between Baldwin and the family of the woman he murdered? . . . Will Baldwin pay them off, preemptively? Will they go to court? . . . . Whoever thought this murdered woman would be the answer to America's prayers. Finally, someone who might get that lying, thieving Baldwin into a courtroom to answer some direct questions.”
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Reply 34 - Posted by: hershey 10/22/2021 10:17:10 AM (No. 953915)
Sorry, but if I'm looking for a movie to watch, and it has a Baldwin in it, ANY Baldwin, I just pass it on by...
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Reply 35 - Posted by: mc squared 10/22/2021 10:19:47 AM (No. 953927)
I'm an expert on this issues having watched hundreds of old movies on TCM. There is usually a prop person who inventories and provides the items necessary on the set. Once it's on the set however, anyone could have inserted a real cartridge. Just the same, as a gun owner, I would have checked it myself before I aimed it at anyone.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: starsNstripes 10/22/2021 10:20:48 AM (No. 953930)
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Shells 10/22/2021 10:33:26 AM (No. 953965)
This sounds like an episode of Monk or Psyche. In fact, I think it was.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Roscoelewis 10/22/2021 10:37:05 AM (No. 953972)
You just never, never point a gun at somebody you don't intend to keep from hurting you. PERIOD!
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Reply 39 - Posted by: MickTurn 10/22/2021 10:37:37 AM (No. 953973)
I thought movies used blanks...???
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Reply 40 - Posted by: DVC 10/22/2021 10:38:40 AM (No. 953977)
Two people shot. That seems to be difficult to do with a single "blank". A blank fired, even at 2-3 feet distance, while unsafe, is unlikely to be fatal at that distance. Blanks that have killed in the past were fired at an inch or two from a head, one by a foolish actor "jokingly" pretending suicide, which turned real. Another had an object in the barrel. The object in the barrel could only fire once, seems unlikely it wound two people. Fire two shots at people at a range of inches? Doesn't seem reasonable, either. The only way I can imagine two individuals shot is either multiple live cartridges in a gun, so injury at longer range, and multiple real shots fired, or possibly a shotgun being used, and a single live buckshot shell. It could spread enough to wound two people at 20-30 yards. This sounds like somehow live ammo go onto a movie set, which I thought was very strictly prohibited. I was involved in a very detailed engineering investigating a military training accident where live ammo was fired through a machine gun that was modified to be unable to load or chamber live ammo, yet it did. No one was shot, even though it fired live ammo and bullets passed with in a foot of people. Idiots can be ingenious.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: bigfatslob 10/22/2021 10:42:23 AM (No. 953985)
Alec Baldwin now has a real body count something many law abiding guns owners might never have. If guns were as bad as Baldwin touts there would be no survivors at NRA conventions. I'm tired of these Hollywood creeps making movies with guns then turn on gun owners after the lights go out. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy sorry for the death of the worker.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: DVC 10/22/2021 10:48:02 AM (No. 953990)
Re #13. No modifications are needed to a revolver to fire blanks. In fact, essentially all the old western movie guns (revolvers, lever action rifles, manually operated shotguns) were perfectly functional if live ammo were used, but were just loaded with blank ammo. Semi-autos and machine guns typically need to be modified to function with blanks, although most can still chamber and fire a live cartridge. Some military and government security service training guns are physically modified to prevent live ammo from being loaded or fired. I have worked on the engineering design of these modifications for such training guns.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Digiconver 10/22/2021 11:27:34 AM (No. 954038)
I'm having trbl with this one, too #40. I've actually been hit by a wad fired from about three feet. It hurt but it was far from fatal. Still I can conceive of a scenario where the first shot caused a minor injury and the second shot, much closer,caused the fatality. It's really hard to believe live rounds got into the prop gun but this is Hollywood and Alec Baldwin and as you've said "idiots can be ingenious".
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Reply 44 - Posted by: Starboard_side 10/22/2021 12:18:00 PM (No. 954089)
He is guilty of negligent manslaughter, at the least, and will likely face lawsuit for wrongful death.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 10/22/2021 12:28:06 PM (No. 954110)
Gives new meaning to the term "lady killer'"
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Reply 46 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 10/22/2021 1:00:45 PM (No. 954153)
#15 After the shooting Baldwin asked why he was handed a hot gun.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: udanja99 10/22/2021 1:22:54 PM (No. 954177)
I think that #21 is referring to Heath Ledger. It annoys me to no end when the anti-gun crowd in Hollywood make gazillions of dollars making movies and TV shows using guns. A prime example is Mark Harmon - he’s a big gun control advocate but in 18 years of making NCIS, has there ever been an episode where he didn’t shoot someone or at least fire his weapon?
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Reply 48 - Posted by: Videodrone 10/22/2021 1:28:34 PM (No. 954188)
Odd, while its been awhile the armors and pyro guys I've worked with were anal about safety and would only load what was needed for that "shot" and then lock up until needed again - no way would a prop gun (or functional) be left "on set' (most "talent"/"actors" are spoiled children in adult bodies and need to be treated as such!)
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Reply 49 - Posted by: TLCary 10/22/2021 8:16:43 PM (No. 954515)
Nowhere in the script did it say "shoot the cinematographer". That's all Baldwin. He didn't intend to kill her any more than the Minnesota cop that intended to kill the motorist in the intersection during s hot pursuit. Think Baldwin will be charged like the cop was?
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Reply 50 - Posted by: doctorfixit 10/22/2021 8:56:56 PM (No. 954545)
Baldwin is a world-class moron. Liberals are dangerously stupid.
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A leading US conservation group, the Audubon Naturalist Society (ANS), has announced it will change its name, due to the “pain” caused by the 19th-century ornithologist and slaveholder John James Audubon. The group, which holds wildlife sanctuaries across Washington DC, Virginia and Maryland, said that it had become clear its name did not connect to its diverse set of programmes and that some members and volunteers had objected. “The mission and vision of the organisation have not changed,” said Lisa Alexander, executive director of ANS. “The deliberate and thoughtful decision to change our name is part of our ongoing commitment
Fauci: Children’s vaccine ‘very likely’
ready in early November
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Posted by Ribicon 10/24/2021 1:52:12 PM Post Reply
Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday that coronavirus vaccines could be made available for 5- to 11-year-olds early next month. During an appearance on ABC’s “This Week,” Dr. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said the Food and Drug Administration and its advisory committee are set to meet Oct. 26 to consider an application from Pfizer and BioNtech to start the rollout of the children’s vaccine. A regulatory decision could be handed to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention the following week. “So If all goes well, and we get the regulatory approval and recommendation from CDC, it is entirely possible if not
CDC Director: Definition of ‘Fully Vaccinated’
May Change in the Future
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Posted by earlybird 10/24/2021 11:27:04 PM Post Reply
The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Friday suggested that the definition of what constitutes being “fully vaccinated” may change as boosters become more commonplace, echoing a move handed down several weeks ago by Israeli officials. For now, in order to meet the CDC’s criteria for being “fully vaccinated,” one has to have two shots of either the Moderna or Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, or one dose of Johnson & Johnson’s. “We have not yet changed the definition of ‘fully vaccinated.’ We will continue to look at this. We may need to update our definition of ‘fully vaccinated’ in the future,”
The Evil Party 27 replies
Posted by Imright 10/24/2021 5:07:54 PM Post Reply
Evil is a very strong word, when used properly. Merriam-Webster defines it many ways, the most relevant to what I’m talking about being “morally reprehensible” and “arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct.” That is the modern left, the “progressive movement,” the “Democratic” Party. And to fight evil, to stop it, is the most important thing anyone can do.What justifies the use of “evil” as a descriptor? It’s a dangerous word to use, one that has been abused throughout history to demonize innocent people as well as condemn the guilty. But there is no other word for what these people are doing, both in tactic and objective.
U.N. Warns of Global ‘Famine, Chaos,
Terrorism and… War’ if COP26 Climate
Summit Fails
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Posted by LoveYourCountry 10/24/2021 11:40:34 AM Post Reply
Any failure by the Cop26 summit in Glasgow to deliver an agreement on future trans-national climate controls could plunge the world into chaos, sparking migration crises alongside food shortages, political disorder and war, the U.N.’s top climate official warned Sunday. Patricia Espinosa, executive secretary of the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change, made her bleak prediction ahead of the opening of the convention on November 1.As some 30,000 people from 197 different countries ready to fly in to the meeting, she warned: We’re really talking about preserving the stability of countries,
Let Computers Do It: Film Set Tragedy
Spurs Call to Ban Guns
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Posted by NorthernDog 10/24/2021 1:47:48 PM Post Reply
NEW YORK — With computer-generated imagery, it seems the sky’s the limit in the magic Hollywood can produce: elaborate dystopian universes. Trips to outer space, for those neither astronauts nor billionaires. Immersive journeys to the future, or back to bygone eras. But as a shocked and saddened industry was reminded this week, many productions still use guns — real guns — when filming. And despite rules and regulations, people can get killed, as happened last week when Alec Baldwin fatally shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins after he was handed a weapon and told it was safe. The tragedy has led some
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