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Lessons to Learn from the Loss of Afghanistan

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Posted By: Dodge Boy, 8/16/2021 9:26:06 AM

Kandahar is fallen. Kabul, too. To hear again those names is to bring back a lost youth a lifetime of operations overseas. When I heard that Kandahar had fallen to the Taliban...I had a bad day. I did not think the news would hit so hard — but it did, and I thought to take a moment to give hard won advice to those who were there, as well as to reflect upon some of the reasons why the Taliban are on the cusp of victory. Think of those who served. First, this moment is a bad time...

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This disaster was inevitable. Another US foreign policy failure. The article gives a way to deal emotionally with what just happened in Afghanistan and why we were there.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 8/16/2021 9:29:59 AM (No. 880927)
Meanwhile, stand up for our men and women in uniform. They did not fail.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: mc squared 8/16/2021 9:30:56 AM (No. 880930)
The lessen is never let Democrats run an unwinable foreign war. Johnson - Carter- Biden
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Reply 3 - Posted by: billsv 8/16/2021 9:35:35 AM (No. 880935)
President Trump was the only President who was correct in these Muddle East wars. It is so sad to see the sacrifices our men and women in the armed forces made and puff, Biden was the ultimate screwup.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: MDConservative 8/16/2021 9:49:55 AM (No. 880957)
The only lesson to learn is don't do that again. Win the fight and leave...
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Pearson365 8/16/2021 10:05:18 AM (No. 880977)
Need to add, Lessons we are about to learn from loss of Afghanistan: 1. Far more aggressive TSA security checks at airports. Grandmothers will be shocked by the groping. 2. Three to four hour check in times for flights rather than two hours before boarding. 3. Sharp fall in military enlistments. 4. Increase in the near daily attacks on Florida Gov DeSantis by WH and media. 5. Permanent ban of Trump from Twitter and the other DNC controlled social networks. US citizens will pay the price for Biden’s madness in Afghanistan. Illegal aliens will continue to enjoy free airfares and immediate boarding without photo ID.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: bigfatslob 8/16/2021 10:05:28 AM (No. 880978)
Tough guy Joe Biden could handle Corn Pop so the Taliban is a piece of cake to beat. Right Joe? Sniff some young girls hair and come back fighting you are in control. Right Joe? Stay on the sidewalk Joe and out of the bushes on the WH lawn. You're doing fine, right Joe.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: michel-de-fer 8/16/2021 10:19:35 AM (No. 881006)
FTA: “We simply shrugged our shoulders and said, ‘It's the culture’ as we tolerated the evil that destroyed the legitimacy of the Afghan government.“ …In other words, the same thing we allowed to happen to American government.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: spacer 8/16/2021 10:21:19 AM (No. 881008)
I was dead set against this mess at the very beginning. Said so to anyone that would listen. I think G W Bush should pay dearly for this 20 years disaster. That said, just as Nam, when the first shot was fired I was all in. The men and women that put their lives on the line deserve nothing less. God Bless those young lives lost and maimed.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: RCFLyer98 8/16/2021 11:02:06 AM (No. 881086)
Learn our lesson from Afghanistan? Sure . . . right. We didn't learn anything from Korea, Vietnam, two Iraq Wars, and now Afghanistan. I submit to you, we have not learned a thing. George Bush, Obama, Powell, Petraeus, Milley and now Biden and so many others should be held accountable for this debacle. Trump is the only one who has had any sense in the matter.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 8/16/2021 11:05:58 AM (No. 881091)
Lesson #1: The MIC got extremely rich. Lesson #2: The Generals got financially secure corporate positions. Lesson #3: The American public were sold a bill of goods by both the politicians and the MIC. Lesson #4: Al Queda and ISIS are really po'd at us and are coming for us.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: red1066 8/16/2021 11:29:30 AM (No. 881129)
Like Vietnam, Afghanistan was not a U.S. military failure. It was a political class failure. It was a, Let's fight a war, but we can't be too rough to upset the world order, so we'll tie the hands of the military and make it look like we're really doing something.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 8/16/2021 12:30:46 PM (No. 881247)
Thanks, Mark, for giving us the real story of the day-to-day graft and criminality embedded in the culture - the hard-core stuff we NEVER get from "journalists." The vast majority of Afghans could not read, write, or numerate... We're getting there. Won't be long.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: MickTurn 8/16/2021 5:54:01 PM (No. 881625)
When politicians make decisions based on who bribes them (defense companies) this is the result. Same in Korea and Vietnam... War is Killing the enemy, ALL OF THEM, PERIOD!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: FunOne 8/16/2021 10:50:52 PM (No. 881885)
When we entered WW II we made it perfectly clear that we were "in it to win it". Since then, we have inserted troops into hostile combat situations throughout the world, and the requirement of "unconditional surrender" is not part of the operation. Instead, for the past 70 years, the American military has had to fight and die as the politicians and bureaucrats search for the "exit strategy. When we engage our forces in combat, it must be with the "in it to win it" goal or what we saw this weekend will be repeated over and over.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: mifla 8/17/2021 7:43:35 AM (No. 882145)
Wars are hell. Do it as a last resort, and when you choose war, leave the lawyers, the media, and the rule book at home.
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