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Why do black African immigrants do
better than American-born blacks?

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Posted By: Big Bopper, 6/4/2021 10:53:09 AM

Millions of sub-Saharan blacks seek to immigrate to America. They apparently haven’t gotten the memo that this is a wretched land of systemic anti-black racism. When they get here, they’re strangers in a strange land. English is usually not their first language. Their skin color tends to be very black, not the lighter color of American blacks who have an average of about 25% white blood in them. Despite those handicaps, they do better than American-born blacks. Compared to American-born blacks, their income is about a third higher, their poverty rates are significantly lower, their educational achievement is higher, and their marriage rate is double.



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Reply 1 - Posted by: columba 6/4/2021 10:59:18 AM (No. 805680)
There is a "cult" that erases racism. It's called Christianity. Put God first an EVERYthing else falls in line.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Northcross 6/4/2021 11:02:58 AM (No. 805687)
Bad move by Mr. Beaton. He now must be doxxed, shamed, and silenced for the crime of telling the truth.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 6/4/2021 11:08:11 AM (No. 805696)
The answer is simple - - - - The systemic racism in this country - - is against people with medium to dark brown skin. There is no systemic racism against people with black skin. Easy, no?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Shells 6/4/2021 11:10:23 AM (No. 805701)
Beaton lobs a grenade but doesn’t pull the pin. This topic could be, and should be, a dissertation.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Words have Meaning 6/4/2021 11:15:15 AM (No. 805705)
Why do black immigrants do better than American born blacks? Immigrant blacks know how to get a photo ID...they also know how to hire lawyers and accountants (according to Biden) and lastly immigrant blacks know how to get a high speed internet connection.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: idahoskook 6/4/2021 11:17:55 AM (No. 805708)
That’s simple. They didn’t have the American Welfare system to condition them to expect everything from the government. Room & Board provided by Uncle Sam have ruined generations of Black Americans. I ran a business in the US Virgin Islands and you only have to go there to see that what I’m saying is a fact. Blacks from St. Lucia. Grenada. Nevis. Dominican Republic and other countries that don’t have a welfare system make up the backbone of the labor force in the US Virgin Islands because the the majority of blacks who are US Citizens’s from birth, Native Virgin Islanders, don’t want to work and have a entitlement mentality. It’s a God awful shame to see what it has done to young boys who end up being old “boys”.....if they are lucky and don’t get shot and killed. They don’t like to work, but they do live the Thug Life.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: vesparado1 6/4/2021 11:33:17 AM (No. 805719)
So, why don't they assimilate to the dominant white culture and thus enable their children to succeed better? Is there something preventing that?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Highlander 6/4/2021 11:34:25 AM (No. 805720)
That has been my observation for years. We know a Haitian couple, good friends of ours, and both man and wife have been married more than forty years. The wife expressed many Christian conservative views and has contempt towards the so-called American black culture. She thinks American blacks are spoiled, entitled, and lazy. She doesn’t subscribe to the idea that there is a universal sisterhood and brotherhood amongst all the world’s black population. “Bunk!” She says.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/4/2021 11:35:00 AM (No. 805721)
Makes a good case that American-born blacks have indeed been dumbed down. Take a close look at what they are parroting, and you will know who is doing it. Its the democrats and their lefty Marxist Communist allies.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: udanja99 6/4/2021 11:43:33 AM (No. 805727)
Easy - they don’t have 56 years and 4 generations of entitlements to keep them down on the demonrat plantation.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Clinger 6/4/2021 11:44:36 AM (No. 805729)
Because they are White Supremacists. Could it be being told day in day out that you can't succeed, and that somebody else owes you all the trappings of success because they and their kind have kept you down since 1619, actually takes a toll?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 6/4/2021 11:47:55 AM (No. 805736)
They missed out on all the 'advantages' of having Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton telling them that "the man was keeping them down" their whole lives, and missed out on learning that drug dealing, living on welfare, hating the police and beating or shooting anyone who you even IMAGINE might be 'dissing you' is normal behavior. The African blacks probably grew up being told that they had to work hard, get the best education that they could, and save, and obey laws. THAT is pretty much all it takes to succeed in this country. But all those things are specifically frowned on and American inner city blacks are told to NEVER get an education, and don't bother to work hard, and there is no reason to obey law....they are just there to "keep you down". Not too complex. All their problems are self inflicted, with the massive assistance of the Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and now Ben Crump race hustlers, and the Dems wanting to keep them "on the plantation", as LBJ said in such a crude, racist way back in the early 60s.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: BGray2 6/4/2021 11:49:40 AM (No. 805742)
Simple answer. Because they haven't been listening to Democrats for the past 75 years.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Highvoltage 6/4/2021 12:07:12 PM (No. 805770)
Could it be they marry before having children and teach their children Christian values? Could it be they have a work ethic which they believe is better than the welfare state? Hummm
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Reply 15 - Posted by: BarryNo 6/4/2021 12:19:00 PM (No. 805784)
They come here expecting nothing more, than the opportunity to succeed. African-Americans would do well to emulate at least that part of their expectations.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 6/4/2021 12:22:20 PM (No. 805792)
Why? Because they come here with work ethic built in.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: stablemoney 6/4/2021 12:35:39 PM (No. 805808)
Black and brown make up half the population. Why don't they go work and live with each other? Despite all the privilege and aspersions cast at whites, they seem to prefer to live and work with them.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: A.I. 6/4/2021 12:40:59 PM (No. 805810)
If their children are doing less than their immigrant parents, blame it on “wokeness.”
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Reply 19 - Posted by: ByteGuru 6/4/2021 12:56:26 PM (No. 805825)
Quite some time ago this difference was noted by a European writer whose name I can't recall. He postulated that the Africans captured by the slavers were not the most intelligent nor the fleet of foot. Those folks were able to evade capture. The less gifted were the folks who became slaves. So the genetic foundation of American Negro was based generally upon the shallow portion of that gene pool. Harsh but not unlikely.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: john56 6/4/2021 12:58:54 PM (No. 805827)
Heck, there's probably some truth to all of that. You know, the first Black President of the United States, Emperor Barack Hussein Obama the First, May His Name be Praised and His Word be Law, isn't a product of the American Black culture, but instead a product of a Black African Immigrant and a White family. I guess it might go a generation past the immigrants; but looking at the success of the two drifter Obama girls, my guess is that it stops there.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: red1066 6/4/2021 1:03:27 PM (No. 805832)
It's called a work ethic. Africans have it for the most part because they weren't given anything. They had to work for everything they had. It's why black Americans are viewed as lazy by black Africans.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: BillW. 6/4/2021 1:09:29 PM (No. 805839)
Many American-born blacks believe they're entitled to be savages (consider the pair of hitchhikers who murdered the white man who'd given them a lift...or a Chicago weekend-worth of black-on-black killings). Those who don't believe that can get along just fine if they apply themselves.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: dst4life 6/4/2021 1:12:03 PM (No. 805840)
This is easy. Immigrant blacks haven't succumbed to the Leftist indoctrination. At least not yet.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Tusker 6/4/2021 1:23:06 PM (No. 805855)
The Bell Shaped Curve
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Mass Minority 6/4/2021 1:23:28 PM (No. 805856)
During my career spanning the early 80's til now I have worked with many black immigrants from the Caribbean and Africa. Those from Africa especially despised American blacks. They aw them as lazy, entitled and woefully ignorant of both their own history and that of their ancestral lands. The most amazing thing I learned from the Africans I worked with (from the Congo, Ivory Coast, Liberia, South Africa and Rwanda among other areas) was their feeling that American blacks have no understanding or experience with real racism. That little tidbit floored me but I heard it from more than a few of my coworkers. Si I asked why. The South Africans were pretty straight forward, they had escaped apartheid after all. But the most eye opening was from a man from the Ivory Coast. He said racism in Africa is open, viscous and pretty much the norm. It flowed along tribal lines rather than skin color. You could be wealthy and happy on Tuesday, there would be a coup on Wednesday and by Friday you could be homeless, unemployable and cut off from any legal recourse. Simply because the tribe you belonged to was now out of power. A view I am sure my colleagues from Rwanda would agree with. They all came to America to escape the horrendous racism and persecution they experienced in Africa. Where American blacks see nothing but obstacles and victimhood the immigrant blacks see only endless opportunity and the possibility of success, stability and wealth beyond anything they could achieve any where else in the world.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: StrikingViking 6/4/2021 1:25:28 PM (No. 805858)
Hmmm. Maybe because the immigrants were raised in two-parent homes. Because their home countries, no matter how poor and corrupt, did not have comprehensive policies designed to reward single parent households and penalize two-parent households. Just spitballing here.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: JrSample 6/4/2021 1:27:10 PM (No. 805861)
The biggest question that hasn't been answered is why are there black African immigrants in the first place. If this country really is the racist hell-hole of systemic racism and white supremacy that the left [Biden] claims, why would they [or Guatemalans, Hondurans, Mexicans, Salvadorans, etc.] immigrate here in the first place? Even more revealing is why aren't American blacks or peoples-of-color fleeing persecution and immigrating to people-of-color run countries?
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Reply 28 - Posted by: voxpopuli 6/4/2021 2:00:28 PM (No. 805887)
apparently somalia isn't "sub-saharan"
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Reply 29 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 6/4/2021 2:17:33 PM (No. 805910)
Agree with those above who cite work ethic. Reminds me of the 'In Living Color' skit many years ago in which 2 immigrant families operating their adjacent businesses would try to one-up each other bragging about all the jobs they were holding down, to the point where everyone was working 24 hours a day 7 days a week. But it goes beyond American-born blacks (lower case). We've grown incredibly lazy across the board. Striking, the number of CEO's interviewed on TV who have accents.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: JimBob 6/4/2021 2:57:22 PM (No. 805944)
Culture Counts.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: clayusmcret 6/4/2021 3:22:36 PM (No. 805964)
Two reasons. First, they've not grown up in a culture that constantly told them that there was no need to succeed; that the state would take care of them from cradle to grave. Second, because they came from countries where real efforts to keep them down routinely included death; not just self-induced pity.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Venturer 6/4/2021 3:39:01 PM (No. 805985)
Blacks from Africa come here to work and succeed, while blacks already here are just waiting for their reparation checks.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: msjena 6/4/2021 3:57:26 PM (No. 805995)
Christianity, yes, but a lot of American-born blacks are Christians. I think it is cultural. There is a thing called "acting white" that discourages academic achievement. Studies have found that blacks whose parents are in the military do better, too, because they go to school with other military kids, most of whom are not black. Immigrants also don't have the victim mentality. They are happy to be here and to be able to take advantage of the opportunities offered.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: bpl40 6/4/2021 4:19:50 PM (No. 806012)
Immigrant communities have a metric about school grades Came to US as a school going child - A s. Came as an infant and raised here - B s. Born here -C s.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: lakerman1 6/4/2021 5:21:06 PM (No. 806039)
The Africans I taught in graduate courses were the elites from their countries, and they were exceptionally well educated. I had four black South Africans in one class, 40 years ago, and they were far superior to the Americans in class, black or white. And their English was better, spoken and written. We are comparing apples to oranges by looking at American blacks and African blacks, in my opinion.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: garyhope 6/4/2021 5:41:18 PM (No. 806055)
Also,....why is the "African Hyphen American" murder rate 58%,...the highest in the USA? Why is the Mexican/Spanish/Latino murder rate another 28% the second highest in the USA for a combined total of 86% of all murders in the USA committed by just 2 groups of "citizens"? That leaves a lousy 14% of the rest of all the murders for we poor whites, Native Americans, Asians and "Pacific Islanders to commit. There's a "murder gap" in our country. Most immigrants that come to this country do better than some of the aforementioned "citizens".
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Strike3 6/4/2021 6:12:25 PM (No. 806074)
Laziness, belligerence, lack of respect, a sense of entitlement and just plain aversion to anything moral and proper takes time to develop. Sometimes an entire generation.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Strike3 6/4/2021 6:24:01 PM (No. 806082)
I really like the #19 explanation. Just look around you for proof.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: MickTurn 6/4/2021 7:19:04 PM (No. 806116)
Simple, they understand the word WORK.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Aubreyesque 6/4/2021 7:58:33 PM (No. 806155)
I am friends with one or two Nigerians, plus have increasingly met new immigrants from Ghana and Angola. They express a definite disdain for the American blacks. They worked HARD to get their education in something they could earn money in...most of whom Ive met have been in AND women. My husband's supervisor for a while was a Nigerian woman. You dont hear too much from them because they dont sit around in victimhood or try to find ways to game the system. They are proud of their WESTERN education and are very happy to use it to become participating members of American society.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: chefrandy 6/4/2021 9:20:19 PM (No. 806189)
Well Glenn, I can name that tune in 2 notes.,,1-no entitlement mentality, 2-no victimhood indoctiriation.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: LaVallette 6/5/2021 4:48:56 AM (No. 806327)
Have asked the same question about the "deprived and persecuted" status of the Australian Indigenous population, and the hundreds of thousands of refugees from every war zone since the displaced populations of that war, have been welcomed here since World War II, similarly deprived of their culture and all their possessions and expelled from their lands and arriving in Australia with little or no language skills and hardly any funds or property, are able within ONE generation to complete their education, form significant proportions of the students in Tertiary institutions are fully integrated into the Australian society owning their own houses, contributing members and owners of businesses employing hundreds of people and among the leaders in the professions. Yet despite BILLIONS of dollars invested every year in aboriginal development, positive discrimination programs, preferential treatment in education entry programs and full "landrights" over their ancestral tribal lands still insist on present themselves, after 250 years as the most a dispoiled, deprived and persecuted people at the hands of the rest of the Australian population?
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Reply 43 - Posted by: mifla 6/5/2021 4:51:46 AM (No. 806328)
Had car trouble after visiting my dentist a few years ago. While waiting for AAA, had a conversation with a black woman from the Caribbean. Among other things, she questioned why blacks born in this country complained so much. She thought America was the greatest place on the planet.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: FLCracker 6/5/2021 1:28:32 PM (No. 806739)
So, the tv show, "Bob Hearts Abishola": you can see this premise working itself out. Abishola, the Nigerian immigrant mother, is works full-time as a nurse, has a part-time job as a therapy provider, and has decided to return to school to become a doctor. She is adamant that her son, Dele, will finish school culminating in a doctorate of some sort. Dele, going to public school in Chicago, has decided he wants to be a choreographer. Abishola's white, secular, wealthy, American fiance, pretty much sides with Dele, and unthinkingly undermines both Abishola's parenting and religious values. (I don't think the WRITERS understand what they are doing with Bob's religious attitudes, much less Bob.) Dele's father, Abishola's (almost) ex-husband, wants to return and keep Dele in Nigeria. I begin to think he is right.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: local500 6/6/2021 5:13:00 AM (No. 807138)
Because they have seen real oppression. Those who are born and raised here, are raised to live like victims.
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The recent campaign launch by a Bush family scion has upended their longstanding unity, causing heartbreak behind the scenes and even a rare public rebuke from a longtime Bush loyalist. The Bushes have long been known for their conservative politics and loyalty to their inner circle. Political consultants and advisers for former President George H.W. Bush, former President George W. Bush, and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush often worked with them for a decade or more, remaining in close contact years after the time in elected office had come to an end. George P. Bush, Jeb’s son, was elected as
After 40 years of AIDS, here’s why
we still don’t have an HIV vaccine
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Posted by NorthernDog 6/5/2021 11:52:47 AM Post Reply
Forty years ago, researchers described the mysterious cases of five gay men who had fallen ill with a pneumonia caused by the bacteria Pneumocystis carinii. Two of the five men had already died. That type of pneumonia usually affects only individuals who are severely immunocompromised, researchers wrote in the June 5, 1981 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. Scientists would soon discover that a disease that would come to be known as AIDS was devastating the men’s immune systems. Three years later, scientists pinned the blame for AIDS on a virus dubbed HIV, or human immunodeficiency virus. Margaret Heckler, the then
Senate senility 20 replies
Posted by Dreadnought 6/5/2021 12:16:36 AM Post Reply
The Washington Post reports that the current U.S. Senate is the oldest in American history. Dianne Feinstein turns 88 this month. Charles Grassley turns 88 in September. Richard Shelby is 87. James Inhofe is 86. Patrick Leahy is 81. Twenty-three senators are in their 70s. The average age of senators at the beginning of this year was 64.3 years. It may be that being 88 now is like being, say, 78 a few decades ago. So despite being the oldest, this might not be the most age-impaired Senate in our history. Robert Caro’s book about the Lyndon Johnson-dominated Senate makes it clear
Trump entertains idea of becoming House
speaker to 'WIPE OUT' Joe Biden as he
prepares for return to public eye with first
speech since leaving White House Tonight
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Posted by Imright 6/5/2021 11:38:43 AM Post Reply
Former President Donald Trump said he was intrigued by the idea of leading opposition to President Joe Biden by running for Congress and becoming speaker of the House, an idea that is gaining currency among his supporters.The strategy was floated as Trump prepares for his return to the political spotlight at the North Carolina Republican convention on Saturday night.It is billed as the next phase in his political career, with the resumption of rallies and speeches - as well as a long teased return to social media.During a Friday interview, far-right radio host Wayne Allyn Root took up the idea that Trump did not have to wait for the 2024
SD Gov. Noem Slams Biden Admin
Decision To Close Mt. Rushmore For
Fourth of July — ‘They Don’t Want To
Celebrate America or Freedoms’
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Posted by Black Conservative Voice 6/5/2021 6:39:36 AM Post Reply
Thursday, Gov. Kristi Noem (R-SD) spoke about the Biden administration’s decision to close Mount Rushmore for the Fourth of July festivities, a contrast to a year earlier when then-President Donald Trump spoke before a fireworks display. The South Dakota Republican slammed the move, claiming it was part of the “radical left’s agenda.” “You know, the decision was really arbitrary,” she said. “That’s why we’ll be appealing this decision, and the fight isn’t over. There wasn’t specific reasons that had credibility, and we call this an unlawful act to not make sure that we can conduct our celebration on July 3 at Mount Rushmore like we did last year.
Are our federal intelligence agencies
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Posted by DVC 6/5/2021 8:36:25 PM Post Reply
A lot of people have been wondering why, suddenly, the leftist establishment is embracing the idea that COVID came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (which is tied to the Chinese military) after denying the possibility for so long. The answer may lie in the fact that the Defense Intelligence Agency has for months been debriefing a high-level Chinese Communist Party defector — but withheld the information from other agencies until recently because of fears that those agencies are compromised. In other words, it's a twofer: China did create and release the virus, and our federal government cannot be trusted.
Will rising crime rates sink
the push for police reform?
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Posted by NorthernDog 6/5/2021 9:47:39 AM Post Reply
In the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder in May 2020 and the worldwide protest movement it inspired, there were signs that comprehensive police reform was possible in the United States. The public expressed strong support, reform-minded lawmakers signaled major changes in big cities, and a bipartisan deal in Congress seemed possible. (Snip) Homicides increased somewhere between 25 percent and nearly 40 percent last year, the largest year-over-year jump on record. That trend has shown no sign of reversing in the first few months of 2021. Crime was one of the defining issues in American elections for decades, but a dramatic
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