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No symptoms, big problems: Scientists still
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Posted By: NorthernDog, 6/30/2020 8:30:52 AM

Months into a pandemic that has caused more than 500,000 deaths worldwide, scientists are still trying to answer crucial questions about the coronavirus. Chief among them: everything about asymptomatic patients. People who contracted COVID-19 but didn't get sick and had no symptoms have been one of the most confounding factors of the public health emergency. The United States has more than 2.5 million confirmed coronavirus cases, but it's likely that many asymptomatic people have fallen through the cracks of official counts. Now, scientists say that without a better understanding of how many people have been asymptomatically infected, it's difficult to

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Asymptomatic cases are not doing the media any good. There's no definitive proof they infect others, and that deprives the media of additional gloom & doom headlines (although they yell gloom & doom anyways).

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Reply 1 - Posted by: TLCary 6/30/2020 8:45:23 AM (No. 461643)
Odd, or engineered for maximum penetration. WHO says 650,000 deaths globally due to influenza. But we shuttered the world’s prosperity and freedom for 500,000 COVID-19 Deaths (including Saint Felon Floyd who was COVID positive).
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 6/30/2020 8:47:07 AM (No. 461644)
Asymptomatic cases are only a "big problem" for the Enemedia, and NBC is a ringleader.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hammondb3 6/30/2020 8:53:23 AM (No. 461654)
COVID-19 attacks cells through the ACE2 receptor. Some populations have more ACE2 receptors than others AND... Some medications cause cells to express MORE ACE2 receptors. Meds commonly used to treat high blood pressure, diabetes and even Ibuprofen. I have thought, as a rank layman, that the reason so many with heart conditions and diabetes were being hit hard COULD be due not so much the conditions, but the meds they are taking. Of course, western medicine is totally chemically dependent. So we are not going to have the medical community call their 'cures' into question...
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Historybuff 6/30/2020 9:00:57 AM (No. 461661)
Scientists? The ones who haven't read up on previous pandemics? If they had, they would realize that this is the mutation of the virus until it is a nuicense, sickening, but not deadly. Remember H1N1? That is the Spanish Flu that had mutated. In 2004 the CDC outlined what they would do in the "next pandemic" - It explains the shut down, the masks and the rest of the silliness the Killer Cuomo and the Fauci's of the world visited on us. Remember Neil Ferguson? He made up this idiotic plan. ANd then ignored it himself. Remember "40,000 ventilators!!!" I do. Remember when NYC was going to dig ditches in the parks for the over flow of deaths? I do. Remember when they told us it would infect us in sewage? I do. Remember when they told us it could be spread by farting? I do. Remember when they tried to convince us that you could get it from your Amazon package or your mail? I do. Remember when Tom Hanks, Rita Wilson, Idris Elba, Boris Johnson, Daniel Dae Kim, congressman Mario Díaz-Balart - brother of NBC weekend anchor Jose, Andy Cohen, Harvey Weinstein, Plácido Domingo, Jackson Browne, Chris Cuomo , Sophie Trudeau died from this? Neither do I.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: IowaDad 6/30/2020 9:02:35 AM (No. 461664)
There is one fraudulent observational trial of whether the use of ACE inhibitors increases the severity of CV-19. Fortunately there are several others which are not fraudulent. Once the smoke cleared, it turned out that ACE inhibitors have no influence over outcome. Complicated story-- because ACE inhibitors increase the blood level of ACE as well as the cell surface level, and ACE in the blood is actually beneficial. Oddly, the fraudulent trial company personnel are not in jail awaiting their criminal trial.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: msjena 6/30/2020 9:07:10 AM (No. 461666)
Asymptomatic cases are what give the authorities an excuse to keep imposing restrictions on everyone else. If someone is asymptomatic, how do they spread the disease in the community context? We are told it is spread through coughing and sneezing but someone without symptoms isn't coughing or sneezing. Being in close contact with someone without symptoms--like a family member you are living with--is certainly a risk. But for most people, it is not a big risk. I am continually surprised by the number of people who continue to live in fear--not going out at all and not allowing anyone in their home who has been outside. One woman made her daughter who lived at home go into 14 day quarantine after she visited friends on the outside. I can't live in fear like that.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: chance_232 6/30/2020 9:14:23 AM (No. 461674)
I would be willing to wager that in almost every disease, there are asymptomatic people. The difference in this case is that we dont normally test people that dont get sick. Thus, higher numbers of asymptomatic people. Also, during most flu seasons, most people who get sick dont get tested. They either continue to work and power thru it or stay home until they feel better.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: BarryNo 6/30/2020 9:21:19 AM (No. 461679)
Wouldn't that be a nice sci-fi conundrum: a virus that infects easily, but embeds itself in the host, cycling through various iterations. Maybe 2% fatalities of those sensitive. Next mutation, 20%, but it stays with the infected, hibernating waking up, and taking another chunk out of a target population, ad infinitum. Now there is a biological war thriller!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Shells 6/30/2020 9:40:31 AM (No. 461703)
Here in FL, at least, people aren’t buying into the renewed hype about the massive increase in infections. We are well aware that it is younger people and that they’re not getting sick. So of course the media has to ratchet up the fear porn. Couldn’t care less anymore. Anything they report is utterly meaningless. It will end only if Trump loses. If he wins, expect four more years of the, ‘why you need to be terrified’ show. This is ALL about Trump. Nothing more.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 6/30/2020 9:44:54 AM (No. 461709)
I keep wondering if their Wuhan flu test is also finding another coronavirus, like a particular strain of the common cold, and getting a positive which is not the real Wuhan flu. These tests look for a particular external structure of the virus, and it seems possible that there is a bit of external structure that Wuhan flu has which is the same as a bit of external structure of some other virus, so giving a false positive test.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: JL80863 6/30/2020 9:45:25 AM (No. 461710)
Asymptomatic people are may not mean they are unaffected. There may be delayed expressions of a coronavirus disease. There have been arguments for and against the virus being lab manipulated but this characteristic seems highly unusual.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: fayebeck 6/30/2020 9:49:33 AM (No. 461718)
#9 you said all about the scam that people should know. It is only about getting rid of President Trump. Period.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Pault135 6/30/2020 9:51:02 AM (No. 461721)
Could it be that the test(s) is/are inaccurate? False positives can be a factor in many medical test. I once had a 60 ish woman test repeatedly positive for pregnancy when she was not pregnant.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: FrankIncensed 6/30/2020 10:01:00 AM (No. 461736)
I agree #13. I believe the testing process where a fragment of viral RNA is replicated millions of times and measured leads to a large number of false positives. Maybe it would be better to only test people with symptoms instead of the general population.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: stablemoney 6/30/2020 10:05:06 AM (No. 461747)
The truth is that the politician's have shut down the world economy with knowing squat about the virus, nothing about science. We are fighting this virus with 17th century superstition.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: AltaD 6/30/2020 10:15:45 AM (No. 461757)
FTA: "Until we know how much transmission asymptomatic people are responsible for, it makes an incredible amount of sense to keep stressing that everyone should wear a mask," she said. But of course, the entire article is just a build up to -- wear a mask.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: walcb 6/30/2020 10:31:52 AM (No. 461775)
It is amazing how little we know about this virus after all the money and research that has been thrown at it. You know why, because it is all about politics not science and what little science that is involved is guided by politics.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: A.I. 6/30/2020 10:34:27 AM (No. 461777)
The Wuhan Virus has mutated and is now less potent.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: lakerman1 6/30/2020 10:47:54 AM (No. 461791)
there really was a typhoid mary. I believe there may be Kung Flu Carrie. Or Carries. the Kung Flu virus looks alot like the common cold virus. the tests may be false positives for Kung Flu because of the common cold virus.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Maryland_Patriot 6/30/2020 11:18:46 AM (No. 461820)
Asymptomatic people are a direct refutation of the germ theory. Antoine Bechamp pointed this out a century ago. Pasteur (a major fraud & publicity hound like Fauci) stole & subverted much of what Bechamp discovered. Do your own research. Discover what has been known for at least 100 years. The germs are not coming to get us. We invite them by the way we live. This includes COVID-19 and all the other over-hyped flu bugs.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DustDevil31 6/30/2020 11:41:21 AM (No. 461838)
I have read that health care workers in PA were so perplexed by asymptomatic positives they sent in two kits for testing that had clean swabs. Both tests came back positive. Data is being fiercely manipulated.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: anniebc 6/30/2020 11:51:51 AM (No. 461848)
But the mandatory masks and social distancing continues. People are proving how they can be easily conquered.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: mc squared 6/30/2020 12:17:31 PM (No. 461865)
Here's why we shut down the country and seriously disrupted people's lives: Scientists Still Puzzled Full stop!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Historybuff 6/30/2020 12:21:26 PM (No. 461868)
#20, don't knock Pasteur - he gave us good wine and beer.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Maryland_Patriot 6/30/2020 12:43:18 PM (No. 461897)
#24 Pasteur was credited with saving the wine industry in France. And it's plausible to say that he did. Winemakers, however, are not universally enamored of Pasteur's boiling of wine, and most serious winemakers, including in France steered away from Pasteur's process. Many of then said pasteurized wine was garbage, or some French equivalent vernacular. Today, sulfites in most cheap wine are a substitute for pasteurization. The "good stuff", however uses other hygienic processes instead of pasteurization. Frankly, I don't drink pasteurized wine. As the French stated above, non, merci.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: learner 6/30/2020 1:04:16 PM (No. 461939)
I am puzzled that NBC is still considered a news source.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: OhioNick 6/30/2020 1:51:14 PM (No. 462009)
For the record, I "might" have had Covid-19 back in January and February. None of the local hospitals had tests at the time, so I'll never know. Twice I went to the emergency room and they were unable to diagnose what I had. One thing for sure is that I had a severe viral infection that was hard to treat. I say it was hard to treat because whenever I start coming down with a cold or flu, I take several immunity boosters and anti-virals, and my illness lasts just a day or two. In this case, I had to use over a dozen supplements and although I was able to keep my condition from getting bad, it took two months for it to finally go away. However, in the last few days I've been getting symptoms again, so I'm back on my supplements. It doesn't seem to be as bad this time, so maybe I've got some sort of partial immunity.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: DVC 7/1/2020 12:23:29 AM (No. 462542)
Actually, #27, the "I'll never know" is probably not true. If you take the antibodies test now, it will show you if your body has antibodies....let me phrase this carefully to be accurate....which the TEST is convinced came from having Wuhan flu and getting over it. IMO, there is still some question whether these tests, both the antibodies test (after the fact) and the Wuhan flu test (while you are infected) may possibly be accurately catching all real Wuhan flu cases and all real Wuhan flu antibodies, but it is my hypothesis that they may possibly be also giving a positive result with another virus with similar external structure (protein coat). These tests have been shown to be very accurate (have been tested) in finding real cases of Wuhan flu, and I don't doubt that, and I do not assume any malfeasance at all, but I question whether they tests ONLY find Wuhan flu, and I think that is less well established at this point, since time has been extraordinarily short for developing these tests. Making sure that they don't also react to some other coronavirus seems much more difficult to prove.
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