Subway closure 'outright disaster'
for the homeless who have few
safe shelter options, advocates say
GoodMorningAmerica,
by
Ella Torres
&
Aaron Katersk
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
5/2/2020 9:14:50 AM
Homeless New Yorkers will face an even more threatening and dangerous situation when the city shuts down the subway system from 1 a.m. to 5 a.m., according to advocates. The shutdown was announced by New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio in a joint press conference on Thursday. Cuomo said closing the subway for those hours would allow the cars to be sanitized every 24 hours during the novel coronavirus pandemic. De Blasio said that it would also benefit any homeless people who ride the subway during that time. "If you're not going back and forth all
Thank a DemocRAT!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
KanCreeper 5/2/2020 9:37:06 AM (No. 398355)
Bedding down with 'critters' is going to insure that you'll wake up crawlin with them....Mayor De Bozo is sure one slow learner.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
brother ram 5/2/2020 9:48:04 AM (No. 398378)
House them on Rikers Island - I understand there are some newly created vacancies. In all seriousness, using the subways as a means of housing the homeless is akin to say using public libraries as "temporary" housing. The inability of Dem mayors to address the issue has wrecked the public library system in this country (mostly urban areas, but I've seen it creep into our town of 12K). It is a lot cheaper to build/rent shelters than use libraries and subway systems as a band aid approach. Frankly in our governments (all levels) should start building mental institutions and treating/housing those in need. A lot of homelessness could be solved with that approach and a lot of prison/jail space could be opened up, since a large percentage of our prison population are repeat offenders have mental and/or addiction issues. Sorry for the long post, this issue makes me crazy.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 5/2/2020 9:48:31 AM (No. 398381)
I hate to break it to you, but subways aren't meant to be homeless shelters.
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I thank God every day that I don't live in one of those Democrat h3ll holes.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Sunhan65 5/2/2020 9:53:11 AM (No. 398387)
Enough. Nobody has the right to monopolize our public spaces with self-indulgent indolence and self-destructive insanity. At a time when healthy, sane people are being forcibly confined to quarters, it is insane that free range lunatics are allowed to sleep on our subways.
The so-called homeless are either lazy people who have given up on life or crazy people who refuse treatment. Take them out. All of them. Out of the subways. Out of the cities. "Socially isolate" them until we can work out which is which.
Confine the crazy until we can remand each one into the custody of a named volunteer who is both empowered and legally enjoined to keep them off the street. Start by encouraging extant family to take custody but, failing that, tell all the so-called "homeless advocates" they are next in line. Assign one to Joshua Goldfein, "staff attorney at the Legal Aid Society...that launched the Homeless Rights Project." If he refuses custody of his "homeless" person, tell him "now you know how the rest of us feel."
P.S. I see I forgot to say what happens to the lazy people we picked up above. It's because I don't care. Maybe they walk back. Maybe they never do. Either way, we're better off.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
LadyHen 5/2/2020 9:59:31 AM (No. 398401)
Not that the subway I am sure doesn't need a good scrub but seriously germ theory seems to elude officials. Many of the homeless probably have this virus and are asymptomatic so the moment they shuffle back on the trains and lay down for a good snooze, the train is a petri dish on rails again.
Now if you cleaned the trains and removed the homeless that live in them too = progress!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
HotRod 5/2/2020 10:14:23 AM (No. 398421)
FTA: ''...the homeless who have few safe shelter options, advocates say.''
Just who do we have to thank for that? Hint: Starts with a capital ''D''
Whose idea is it that mentally ill people, drug addicts, and destitute people should live on the streets, with no sanitation, shelter, food, or medical care? See hint above!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 5/2/2020 10:23:19 AM (No. 398432)
The subways were specifically built to shelter the homeless.
All of that transportation stuff is purely secondary.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
mc squared 5/2/2020 10:27:22 AM (No. 398435)
That could be an advertisement for more Utopian Public Transportation.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
IdahoJoe 5/2/2020 10:34:30 AM (No. 398442)
If you look up the definition of subway in the dictionary, it says nothing about being a place where homeless people live, urinate and defecate. Same for the word library. If there are not adequate places for the homeless to live, build them. Leave the library for reading books (not online porn) and the subway for transportation.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
TJ54 5/2/2020 10:50:13 AM (No. 398459)
Boo hoo hoo. Just let taxpayers die!
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
dirtyjersey 5/2/2020 10:51:10 AM (No. 398462)
The homeless shelters have been divided up amongst the drug gangs. They use them as a base of operations. The homeless are afraid to stay their, because they will be assaulted.
Giuliani and Bloomberg both used nuisance crimes to keep these people locked up and medicated as required. The reduction of incarceration and the increase of homelessness are highly correlated.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Grateful 5/2/2020 11:20:47 AM (No. 398492)
Why did the dopey duo wait so long to take this common sense and surely life saving action to sanitize the petri dishes every day? How many lives were lost as a result of New Yorkers being at high risk by riding these virus contaminated subways? Did it really take this long for da mayor and da gov to figure this out? And how about the NYC busses and taxis? These two bozos need to be held accountable.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Ribicon 5/2/2020 11:39:13 AM (No. 398515)
Public libraries nationwide serve as lounges for the homeless, even allowing eating inside and bathing in the sinks, thanks to warped notions of personal liberty. So why not subways, which add in changing scenery while the vagrants ride our their highs or drunks?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
DVC 5/2/2020 12:04:36 PM (No. 398548)
Take the homeless and do what was done long ago, drive them to the edge of town and unload them there. Sorry, I don't think we should cater to these bums.
If there are mentally ill, then put them in institutions, with locks on the doors and bars on the windows. The rest, roust them and keep them from bothering working people.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
worried 5/2/2020 12:29:20 PM (No. 398581)
#3, there once were mental hospitals where the mentally ill were housed. The dems closed them and turned the inmates loose on the rest of us, with the results we see today.
#s 6 and 167. Why do you want to send the homeless to the countryside and foist your problems on us? Those people are the cities' problem, not ours. Solve them yourselves instead of trying to pass it on to us. We have our own problems and don't need yours!
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
hershey 5/2/2020 12:30:39 PM (No. 398583)
Mayor De Blabbio needs to evict the UN from their building(s) and house the homeless there..that would solve two problems, three actually as the unpaid parking fine problem would also go away.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 5/2/2020 1:21:22 PM (No. 398632)
I am with #5. I have lived in a small southern town nearly all my life and nothing would ever make me move to one of those blue big cities. They have made their bed with their votes and can now lie in them with the bums they have coddled.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
AltaD 5/2/2020 2:01:58 PM (No. 398672)
Why not house them in the unused temporary hospitals?
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
DVC 5/2/2020 4:29:47 PM (No. 398736)
#17, in past times, bums found unused land, often railroad right of way near a river, and spent some time there, out of sight, out of the way, and had to occasionally work for a meal. As to the "edge of town" that is still in the city in most case, just where the density is low, and they can find a nice bridge or rail underpass to infest.
I live about 15 miles out of the nearest large suburb, and I have no doubt that if they showed up on my property, they'd not appreciate looking at the muzzle of my shotgun as I sent them on their way.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Venturer 5/2/2020 6:20:20 PM (No. 398812)
Something else that should have been nipped in the bud.
It never should have been allowed to begin with.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Sunhan65 5/2/2020 11:54:05 PM (No. 398992)
Well put, #17. During the Great Depression, there was one such an encampment on outskirts of a small Midwestern town. Town residents called it "Bum's Jungle." I know this because my mother found it one day while exploring. The hobos invited her to sit and made polite conversation while sharing their meagre meal with her. When Mom got home, her mother went ballistic and warned her never to go there again. She thought the men were nice but sad. They probably were.
Times were different then. So were hobos.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
PESSIMIST 5/2/2020 11:55:51 PM (No. 398996)
The claim that they have "nowhere to go" is a lie. There are plenty of homeless shelters in NYC -- we have an entire Department of Homeless Services, and it provides tens of thousands of beds nightly. The shelters are not pleasant places, to be sure, but the expression that beggars can't be chosers is appropriate here.
The real problem, other than that the subway might be considered a nicer place to sleep by canny bums, is that many homeless are crazy and don't begin to understand their options. They should be taken to the shelters by outreach personnel and deposited there. "Against their will," you protest? How about sane taxpayers who are arrested these days for throwing a frisbee with their kids in an empty park?
"Poverty lawyers" and "homeless advocates" like the pajama boy quoted in this piece, are of course beneath contempt.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Goose 5/3/2020 8:48:51 AM (No. 399218)
Convert the recently established field hospitals & Javitz center to homeless shelters.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
or gate 5/3/2020 2:43:53 PM (No. 399631)
Around here the city fathers sneak money to the homeless (squatters).
Why?
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Yeah right. Because the trains should run 24 hours/day just so the homeless have a place to hang out.