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Troubling Confirmation — Ukraine Intelligence
Officer confirms Fundamental Outline of
Russian Claim Surrounding Airplane Shoot
Down and Killed POWs

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Posted By: Kate318, 1/26/2024 10:18:45 AM

Western media, particularly those with a vested anti-Russia narrative, expressed skepticism of the Russian statement, including the claim that Ukraine had shot down the plane. However, the BBC has an outline [SEE HERE] based on a conversation with a Ukrainian intelligence official that seems to directly corroborate the Russian statements. Oddly, but perhaps not unexpectedly, the BBC article is framed to retain the skepticism; however, if you read the article carefully, what you will notice is the details are generally confirmed.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: mean Gene 1/26/2024 10:23:37 AM (No. 1644879)
The video proved the Ukraine spin was a lie. There were no weapons blowing up either when the Ukrainians shot down the plane OR when it hit the ground. There would have been secondary explosions, but there were none.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Quigley 1/26/2024 10:34:43 AM (No. 1644887)
This war has been abominable from day 1, especially against the backdrop of near certainty of the Bidet family looting Ukraine.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: danu 1/26/2024 11:37:22 AM (No. 1644921)
i pray for the ppl of ukraine and russia, who endure endless lies, and indignities-- as distractions from genocide. may the Lord avenge them.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 1/26/2024 11:37:28 AM (No. 1644922)
If there were POWs aboard, it's a shame. I am reading a riveting true story about the WW2 submarine Barb and her five war patrols in the Pacific. On one mission she torpedoed several Japanese transports. One was an ammo ship which blew up with a giant blast, just ceased to exist. One was carrying thousands of Aussy POWs back to Japan to work them to death. After the sinking Barb saved a dozen or more of these POWs from the water. They said that they fully understood that the ship was a legitimate target, and they were happy to be out of Japanese hands. In war, stuff like this has always happened....to every country. Trying tar Ukriane like this makes me think MUCH less of Sundance. He's blind on this topic and buying into the Russian propaganda like a distressing, disappointing number of "intelligent" Americans. The Russians are BAD, always, as a country. I know a number of individual Russians who I count as friends, but their blindness towards the brutality and imperialism of Russia, the country, was obvious when I was working in the country.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Venturer 1/26/2024 12:38:44 PM (No. 1644975)
Pretty sure the Ukrainians shot it down. The question is did they know POW's were on the plane?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: chumley 1/26/2024 1:41:46 PM (No. 1645021)
I read a book as a teen called "Tactics Of Mistake" that asserted the way to win wars is not to do more than your enemy right, but to do fewer things wrong. Nothing I have seen since then has proven that wrong.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Birddog 1/26/2024 4:19:28 PM (No. 1645144)
If you are going to do a hostage/POW exchange it is only right and common to have a confirmed/dedicated flag, marking, call sign, transponder, activated as it passes through any warzone...going back as far as WAR existed there were always caravans,convoys, ships or planes with neutrals, diplomats, or exchanges going back and forth through combatant areas.
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