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Fire that killed 3 generations of NYC
family sparked by lithium-ion battery

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Posted By: Hazymac, 11/14/2023 7:32:37 AM

A massive blaze that killed members of three generations of a Brooklyn family over the weekend stemmed from a lithium-ion battery used to power an electric scooter owned by one of the victims, FDNY officials said Monday. The ignited battery created a “wall of fire” that made it extremely difficult for residents to escape 242 Albany Ave. in Crown Heights — where the three-alarm blaze erupted shortly after 4:30 a.m. Sunday, killing matriarch Albertha West, 81, her son Michael West, 58 and grandson Jamiyl West, 33, the FDNY said. “The volume of fire we see from these batteries creates untenable conditions both for residents to get out, but also for

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Hazymac 11/14/2023 7:44:48 AM (No. 1598197)
Recently London's Luton Airport had a bad fire in its four story parking facility. The vehicle that started the fire was a 2013 Land Rover diesel with hybrid assist. I saw a video of fire shooting out from behind the front left wheel, right where the hybrid unit is located. The lithium ion flames from the hybrid unit spread to other vehicles, and the concrete floor and its steel support melted. The entire facility collapsed on one side. Over a thousand cars cannot be recovered unless a special ramp is built into the ruined facility. Although electric is bad--and must go away before long--hybrid technology is also too dangerous. And to add insult to injury, my next door neighbor just bought a e-bike. I have warned him of the dangers. He didn't appreciate it. Too bad, fella. It is what it is.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: stablemoney 11/14/2023 7:53:03 AM (No. 1598206)
A warning should be required if any lithium batteries are carried aboard a passenger aircraft. All vehicles, bikes, buses, should include a warning visible to all that a lithium battery is onboard, and a fire hazard.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Venturer 11/14/2023 7:54:55 AM (No. 1598207)
Here is my opinion. In New York you just cannot leave this thing out because it will get stolen, so they bring it inside, and knowing they will be using it the next day they leave it close to the exit or in the hallway , right in the way of their egress if a fire breaks out. The fire breaks out while it is charging and the result is crispy critters in the home.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Hazymac 11/14/2023 7:56:28 AM (No. 1598213)
FTA: “I would bet very much that the West family thought when they bought this device that it was safe,” Kavanagh added. “The single greatest thing we could do is make sure that unsafe devices can’t be sold.” Yes. Outlaw these dangerous devices. They kill. The political people who pushed so hard to electrify transportation did not think anything through, and now major auto and truck manufacturers have tens of thousands of these e-cars sitting on lots, unsold and unwanted. That's what they get for listening to the likes of Al Gore.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: southernboy 11/14/2023 8:11:50 AM (No. 1598232)
It's interesting that lithium battery technology is where it is with all the dangers being ignored while we still have warnings to turn off our cell phones while refueling or not smoking in the presence of oxygen.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 11/14/2023 8:42:33 AM (No. 1598258)
I am guessing this is happening all over the country, so why is NYC the only place we are hearing about it?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: mifla 11/14/2023 9:13:47 AM (No. 1598289)
Mandated sticker on such batteries. Warning. This device is unstable and may spontaneously explode and catch fire for no apparent reason. Use this device at your own risk. If you survive the explosion, please contact the Biden administration and sue them for every penny they have for mandating this fire hazard.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: NorthernDog 11/14/2023 9:16:09 AM (No. 1598297)
In July a ship carrying several thousand vehicles off the coast of the Netherlands caught fire. Once we found out there were 509 EVs on the ship, all reporting stopped. The badly damaged ship was towed back to port but no one ever followed up on the cause.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Illinois Mom 11/14/2023 9:35:32 AM (No. 1598323)
What are the chances that there were vehicles with these batteries involved in the fire under the Freeway in San Francisco. We had a neighbor whose electric car, that was not even charging, caught fire in the garage. The fire destroyed two other cars and burned so hot and fast that the house was gone within an hour. The Fire Department was on the scene within minutes after the first call. Thankfully no one was hurt but the fire damaged the homes on both sides. The yards were we were are very large and the the neighbors were a good distance away.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: 3XALADY 11/14/2023 9:40:18 AM (No. 1598326)
#8 IIRC, the fire started in a Volkswagen. And the ship was loaded with very expensive luxury vehicles and 600 Volkswagens.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 11/14/2023 7:51:04 PM (No. 1598710)
Deadly electric vehicles....from scooters to cars, keep them far from your home. The DO explode into flames without warning all too often.
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