Goodbye gas. New all-electric homes show
how to live without fossil fuels
Los Angeles Times,
by
Tony Barboza
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
7/9/2023 1:52:30 PM
From the outside, the rows of tile-roof houses in a new community in Menifee don’t look much different from those in other subdivisions cropping up in this fast-growing city in Riverside County. But on the inside, these all-electric homes are revolutionary, offering a glimpse of the zero-emission future we should be hurtling toward to fight climate change and adapt to its effects. All the houses in the Durango and Oak Shade at Shadow Mountain communities, two adjacent KB Home subdivisions I visited in May for an opening event, were built without natural gas hookups or appliances. Each of the 219
Reply 1 - Posted by:
philsner 7/9/2023 1:55:24 PM (No. 1509204)
Actually, no they don't.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
marbles 7/9/2023 1:58:58 PM (No. 1509209)
More lies from the left.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Quigley 7/9/2023 1:59:08 PM (No. 1509210)
Question: Mr. Dim, Mr. Dim- where does the electric come from?
Response: From the wall!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Scout Finch 7/9/2023 2:02:06 PM (No. 1509214)
It’s ugly. Looks like something built in 1978.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 7/9/2023 2:04:19 PM (No. 1509216)
Total BS. The overwhelming majority of the electricity comes from gas or coal, some nuke.
Damned little of their fantasy magic stuff.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Dipi 7/9/2023 2:07:47 PM (No. 1509220)
I have had an all-electric home since we bought it in 1968, but that was my choice since I did not want a gas home since I had small children. Many years ago, I lost three cousins in Connecticut because they left the gas oven for the heat during winter and the fire went out and they died as a result.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
chumley 7/9/2023 2:16:12 PM (No. 1509230)
Several years ago we had two week+ long power outages. All the gas appliances still worked. A small generator was enough to run the freezer and refrigerator. I like gas just fine and don't like some petty tyrant telling me I cant have it.
You mind your business and I'll mind mine.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
mc squared 7/9/2023 2:22:53 PM (No. 1509234)
Was the house built with no fossil fuels? What happens when Biden's plan to block the sun from warming the earth?
These are complete rear-end holes.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
bamboozle 7/9/2023 2:24:25 PM (No. 1509236)
Wait until the first winter electric bill arrives.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Venturer 7/9/2023 2:28:59 PM (No. 1509238)
The articla states that whoever wrote it thought the prices on these home would be costly, but Hey!! They only sell in the high $500,000 dollar range, Maybe $600,000 I guess in Californica that's cheap, but it's a lot of money to me.
I suppose some have solar panels but I would guess that they are still hooked up to public electric lines that get their current from fossil fuel.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
spacer 7/9/2023 2:30:34 PM (No. 1509240)
Included is the Smart meter to you know , control your usage in case of a huh weather emergency or something. They push one little button and poof no more ac.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 7/9/2023 2:37:31 PM (No. 1509245)
Enjoy, Kalifornians. Let us know where your juice will be coming from on those cloudy calm days.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
southernboy 7/9/2023 2:57:57 PM (No. 1509252)
My cousin just down the road has one of those "all-electric" homes hyped in the '90's. At that time got a discount from the electric company for doing so. Heat ex-changers, etc. She freezes in the winter because it takes electricity to heat her house...(outside air is cold in the winter time so electricity is the back-up) Hot in the summer because.....it's hot outside and very little cool air "to exchange."
Power off...completely dead in the water! No nothing!
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Where does the electricity come from? Out of the wall, of course.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Daisymay 7/9/2023 3:02:35 PM (No. 1509257)
NO THANKS! With the exception of living in my Childhood home where we shoveled Coal into the Furnace, all of the homes I've lived in during my 82 years have been Gas Heat but one. We lived in TN for four years in a Country Subdivision where there was no Gas, so we had a "Heat Pump"! Hated every minute we had to run it. Felt like cold air circulating all the time. Would never, ever go back to it. We love Gas heat!!
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
formerNYer 7/9/2023 3:05:15 PM (No. 1509259)
What happens when there are brown outs because you closed down all the gas and oil power plants and wemt green?
Meanwhile, China is still burn coal and kicking our @ss.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
offrope 7/9/2023 3:08:50 PM (No. 1509261)
This makes sense because, as we all know, electricity is produced by magic, from nothing. It's also free.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 7/9/2023 3:13:52 PM (No. 1509266)
Ah well, people are just going to learn the hard way. How long will that take considering many people never learn.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
LanceLink1 7/9/2023 3:34:51 PM (No. 1509275)
First our enlightened leaders claim man made gasses pollute the atmosphere creating global warming. So they want everybody to get rid of their cars and put solar panels on their roofs because you know, global warming. Then stop eating beef, get rid of your aid conditioning and switch off the gas to alleviate again global warming. And now they talk about adding chemicals to the atmosphere to reduce solar rays that warm the earth. Which is what I thought got us here in the first place. Supposedly. If you believe their crap.
Why don't they just go back to their navel gazing and leave the rest of us sane people alone?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Penney 7/9/2023 3:54:48 PM (No. 1509280)
The globalist have lost their minds.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Citoyen 7/9/2023 3:57:43 PM (No. 1509284)
I live in Palm Springs which is in Riverside County where the story takes place. My air conditioner runs on electricity while the furnace and stove use gas. I would like to convert the air conditioner to gas since the electricity bills in our super hot summers is extremely expensive.
I had a swimming pool contractor over recently and he told me that electricity cannot heat a pool. These new subdivisions will be pool free, hardly the California dream.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/9/2023 4:30:53 PM (No. 1509292)
Just where is the electricity coming from? It ain't windmills or solar! Lots of hydrocarbons to generate Commiefornia's 'clean' electricity.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec 7/9/2023 4:48:32 PM (No. 1509300)
Welcome to communism. You get one choice and that is whatever the govt says it is. Since there won't be enough electricity to go around, expect blackouts to be the new normal.
Keep voting Democrat and this is what you get.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
DVC 7/9/2023 4:52:09 PM (No. 1509301)
Re #21, au contraire. Electricity CAN heat a pool.
But, minor point....it will cost about three or four fortunes to do so. So, practically speaking, nobody is willing to foot the bill to 1) add a larger electric service (like an EV charger) for a lot of money and then 2) pay huge electric bills to get the "heat". In any place with good sun, pool heating with solar is actually pretty workable.
Sometimes is is as simple as a large amount of black plastic piping laying on a unseen porch roof (hundreds of sq feet) and water pumped from the pool to the pipe and then back to the pool. Typically a very small, cheap to run pump.
I'd say in Palm Springs that a solar pool heater would work very well, but you'll have to ask about what they have found to be the most cost effective way to do it.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
earlybird 7/9/2023 5:08:31 PM (No. 1509311)
The value of anything built for gas will go up.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Ruthless 7/9/2023 5:09:42 PM (No. 1509313)
The government dictators are all-in on electric because they can control it with the flip of a switch. Say or do something against them/their politics, and they'll happily put you in the dark. This isn't about the climate. This is about control. Brick by brick, total control. They're starting in California because that population will offer the least resistance.
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Timely article. Switching the range from electric to gas, and having the required larger-diameter propane line between the tank and the house installed tomorrow. As if roads full of EV's won't already be tapping out the available power, the resistive loads required to heat everyone's home will require unimaginable additional gobs of electricity.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
felixcat 7/9/2023 7:05:03 PM (No. 1509368)
So how's the White House heated in the winter? Same for Camp David and the two Biden homes in Delaware.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
NeonVortex 7/9/2023 8:27:23 PM (No. 1509413)
Where is all this electricity going to come from?
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
jimincalif 7/9/2023 9:06:51 PM (No. 1509429)
Revolutionary? Give me a break, we had these in the sixties, promoted by utility companies. Google “golden medallion electric home” images, they had a special doorbell button showing this off. “Without fossil fuels? LMAO.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
MickTurn 7/9/2023 10:22:34 PM (No. 1509463)
Really, the LA Times knows Newsome is an idiot and is destroying Californication!
No power to charge EV's, NO POWER to COOK WITH...Oh DUHHHHHH!
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Norway 7/9/2023 10:32:52 PM (No. 1509469)
A purposely lying article by the Los Angeles Slimes.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Norway 7/9/2023 10:34:39 PM (No. 1509470)
When the slaves have all-electric homes.... the easier to control them. Toe the party line or no electricity for you, Comrade!
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
doctorfixit 7/10/2023 6:28:19 AM (No. 1509539)
All electric burns 3X the amount of fuel as direct combustion uses. All fuel is "fossil" fuel. The most efficient use of fuel is at the point where it is used, not remotely burned to generate electricity. The war on fuel is about control.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
broken01 7/10/2023 12:08:34 PM (No. 1509831)
I just downloaded the MGM+ movie app on my Roku TV. On it there's a TV series called From. I'm not going to give away the plot for future viewers but the houses, office buildings, restaurants all run on normal electricity. The only difference is the powerlines aren't real and no one knows where the electricity comes from. That like real life environmentalist wacko democrats. They have no idea where electricity in our country comes from. Out of the wall or from thin air it's all the same to that bunch.
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