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Running America on Imaginary Technology

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Posted By: Imright, 9/28/2022 7:21:27 PM

The human mind has a specific talent for extrapolation. That is, it has the propensity to project current events and technologies along a straight timeline with a constant slope into the future, predicting what the future will look like, and when it will occur. Unfortunately, this talent is frequently vastly inaccurate. History and human events rarely follow a straight line. Some technological advancements occur on an exponential or geometric curve, while others flatline. In the 1960’s, it was widely predicted that we would all be flying around in jetpacks and flying cars like the Jetsons by 1980.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 9/28/2022 8:05:24 PM (No. 1290514)
Excellent and technically accurate commentary. This mirrors what a good friend, formerly the VP of Technology for a major telecom company, told me about the essential impossibility of convincing the CEO that the claimed "huge technological breakthrough " promised by the techno-scammer dejure was just smoke and mirrors, beyond the capability of technology. The big telecom company did this enough times that they are now owned by another company. Lots of CEOs are just like politicians, total suckers for a bullshirt story that they really WANT to believe, even when it is just BS. Read about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos, and her big scam. It lasted far longer than it should have. Lots of people knew it was impossible but were ignored. EVs are a scam, and billions of dollars will be lost by the Fords and GMs of the world on BS tech, literally half baked. And that doesn't even get to the impossibility of providing enough electricity to charge them.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: NorCaliInfidel 9/28/2022 8:30:17 PM (No. 1290523)
Lithium. That will be the limiting resource in battery availability. There is no way the supply of Li can meet the anticipated demand. Not to mention the anticipated demand of copper, cobalt and rare earth elements required for these technologies. Solid-state batteries? They will be nowhere economically feasible in the next ten years. Electical generation (carbon quasi-neutral)? If they are not serious immediately of building many new nuclear plants, the electrical generation demand anticipated cannot be close to being met.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Highlander 9/28/2022 8:57:20 PM (No. 1290535)
Interesting read. Of course, those that need to read it, won’t.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: TLCary 9/28/2022 9:09:39 PM (No. 1290542)
It should be comforting to read an article like this and know that we aren't alone in being able to use critical thinking and math. But it turns out that there is nothing comforting about being Cassandra.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Penney 9/28/2022 9:46:32 PM (No. 1290560)
Dem pols' fantasy imaginings could have come from the cartoon films but have no place in current events. People who live in the real world are now beginning to suffer under the all too real lies of the daffy lefties!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 9/29/2022 12:48:08 AM (No. 1290643)
Here's some fun. And Electric Ford Truck test in the real world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nS0Fdayj8Y&t=574s
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Reply 7 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 9/29/2022 8:36:56 AM (No. 1290797)
This is a very accurate description of the way top level people in companies and government are always promoting solutions that are cutting edge but will never work, especially when they have to scale up for millions of users. In the best of cases the scaling up process is only far slower and more expensive than was projected. This can still be disastrous for business as profitability is undermined. Government, on the other hand, never wants to admit they made a big mistake so they try to deflect blame and throw money at the problem. In this example, where solutions are only delayed and more expensive, eventually a resolution can be reached. But in many other cases, the solution is pure fantasy, at least for the foreseeable future. This is the case for "Green" solutions. They CANNOT be accomplished. Further, as we are seeing, the failures are catastrophic and often end up doing more environmental damage as "bad" methods (coal, wood) are fallen back to in the self generated crisis. In the case of EVs, as pointed out, the personal transport industry would have to be completely switched from a well established gas delivery system to an electrical delivery system. The transition is technologically possible but a massive and expensive project which is IMPOSSIBLE to complete in any reasonable time frame. The biggest problem is the BACK end, the actual supply of electricity, which is completely inadequate to meet the demands of a full EV fleet and would require a MASSIVE expansion in electrical generation capability which also is IMPOSSIBLE to complete in a reasonable time frame. Nor, as the political idiots seem to think, can the systems be switched like a light switch. We would be paying for a DUAL system for quite a while, which will also massively expensive and hideously complicated. Plus, we can be sure that the same political idiots will have their hands in any such transition, making a big mess of it, costing more, and delivering political power to THEM, the real goal of the whole issue. THEN we face the IMPOSSIBLE task of delivering all this current and additional EV demand through Wind and Solar, another MASSIVE infrastructure change that cannot possibly be accomplished in any reasonable time frame. As pointed out, while we KNOW we have sufficient oil and gas reserves plus the possibility of nuclear power, the technological and manufacturing demands to build the REQUIRED storage batteries to manage power in a wind/solar system are, again, impossible to produce and massively destructive to the environment to event attempt. The whole concept of ONLY solar/wind and EVs is, given known technology, INSANE. It is not only a complete rebuilding of our energy infrastructure that would certainly last many decades and be hugely (probably civilization destroying) expensive, but technologically IMPOSSIBLE. The Alarmists are trying to build our future based on Unicorn farts. Remember the ObamaCare website crashing, and crashing, and crashing, and crashing. Except, in this case, it won't be a system that most of us did not even use. It will be NO POWER to your home. NO HEAT in the winter. NO A/C in the summer. NO POWER for the EV you will be forced to buy so no transportation. NO idea as to when reliable power might be available or transportation possible. When can you get food, get medicine, or go to the doctor? This would throw society back 100s of year and it would all be a self inflicted disaster.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: swarfer 9/29/2022 9:11:28 AM (No. 1290825)
Best article I’ve seen on the subject. Few people have the necessary education snd knowledge to evaluate technology. Of these even fewer have practical problem solving and analyses skills. Even fewer are willing to admit reality, because as technical people, they want to ride the wave all the way to the bank. However there are many others who willingly capitalize on rumor, innuendo, fantasy, deliberate deception and political agendas for power, wealth and a “cause”. Every engineer can do the simple calculations to show the hurdles to mass acceptance and deployment of EVs in the near future. That doesn’t stop them from buying Tesla stock or voting Democratic. The truth is that there is nothing to stop tech hype as long as people are making money. Promising tomorrow keeps the show going. The younger generation is very vulnerable to tech hype since they have no time scale to evaluate the future.
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