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Pregnant 16-year-old not 'mature' enough
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Posted By: Beardo, 8/17/2022 10:47:59 AM

A Florida judge ruled that a 16-year-old pregnant girl could not receive an abortion because she was not "sufficiently mature" enough to terminate her pregnancy. An appellate court on Monday upheld a lower court ruling prohibiting the girl, referred to as Jane Doe 22-B in court papers, from receiving the procedure, according to a court ruling from Judge Jennifer J. Frydrychowicz. The parentless teenager was seeking a waiver from a state law requiring minors to get parental consent for an abortion. She had told the lower court she was not ready for a baby, did not have a job and the baby's father was unable to help her.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns 8/17/2022 10:50:42 AM (No. 1250915)
Well having a baby will sure mature her quick enough or not.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jalo1951 8/17/2022 11:05:04 AM (No. 1250931)
Birth control. Why is no one talking about birth control? It is displayed everywhere. Available to everyone.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hershey 8/17/2022 11:05:28 AM (No. 1250932)
So sad, no parents, didn't have a job and the dick that impregnated her wouldn't help...maybe she should have abstained...
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Reply 4 - Posted by: TLCary 8/17/2022 11:08:06 AM (No. 1250935)
Adoption... multiple Presidents were adopted. It's a win-win.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 8/17/2022 11:24:31 AM (No. 1250953)
Well, honey - - this is what you get when you "put out" - - or am I dating myself with that term? Nice girls don't get preggers. Don't have sexual intercourse again - - until you find a decent man who will marry you and help you raise a family. Oh, gee - - I'm so uncool!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: TJ54 8/17/2022 11:38:47 AM (No. 1250970)
Reply 5, In fact nice girls do get pregnant and end up marrying and having more children. It happens because they are naive and in love
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Reply 7 - Posted by: GoodDeal 8/17/2022 12:07:44 PM (No. 1251012)
She was ready to have sex with a guy who was unable to help her in case she got pregnant. Why is he unable to help? Did he escape back to Mexico? The solution is adoption. The court should refer her to an agency or church or organization that can help. Killing the child is not a solution.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MDConservative 8/17/2022 12:08:11 PM (No. 1251014)
And the sperm donor? Over 18? Grounds for statutory rape charge, even if consensual.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Aubreyesque 8/17/2022 12:18:06 PM (No. 1251024)
No adoption is NOT "The Solution" to every unwanted pregnancy. Adoption the way it is practiced is a whole other kind of abortion. Cut off their life, or cut off their heritage/mirror/family/OBC/access to the truth: pretty much the same. Ask any adoptee who has had to go through life wondering about things that non-adoptees take for granted. Until proponents are willing to stand up and fight for the legal right to allow adoptees FULL AND COMPLETE UNREDACTED access to their OBC, they should kindly ST[front door]. Go ahead: do that to your own children. Hand YOUR baby over to a complete stranger and then spend the rest of its life pretending you have nothing to do with it. Not willing to do so? As I said, shut the...
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Log Cabin Preacher 8/17/2022 12:18:27 PM (No. 1251026)
I'm not saying abortion is the answer, but let's cut the girl some slack. She is 16, has no parents, is struggling and must be scared out of her mind. Many of us had parents who taught us right and wrong, but she's raising herself as a child. Give her a break.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: red1066 8/17/2022 12:33:50 PM (No. 1251032)
I'm confused by the ruling of not being mature enough to have an abortion. What exactly does that mean? She's 16 and old enough to get pregnant, and aware enough to know she can't afford to have a kid while still in school. What criteria did the judge use to make this decision. It's not as if no other 16-year-old has ever gotten pregnant before. She's a teenager, and teenagers are notoriously stupid at times. So, this judge has decided to possibly ruin two lives. Having an abortion would certainly wise this girl up and make her much more mature. While I'm not advocating for abortions in general, this might be one circumstance where some common sense needs to apply.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Hermoine 8/17/2022 12:37:12 PM (No. 1251037)
After reading the whole article, I respectfully agree with the court's decision. So many young women, in similar positions, have abortions and then suffer the psychological and physiological damage that the abortion appears this young woman initially was fine with having a baby and then she had a close friend die and now she thinks she wants an abortion. She is also living with a relative, so while parentless, she is not homeless. I am sure it is a less than ideal situation, but I also know there are plenty of support services out there to help her if she wants to keep her child or in the case that she chooses to give up her child for adoption. And, for the poster above who appears to be very anti-adoption (due to our laws), I'm sorry you or someone you know had a bad adoption experience. I truly sympathize for you. With that said, there are so many wonderful adoption stories that I'm lead to believe that it is by far a superior choice to abortion.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Beardo 8/17/2022 1:34:46 PM (No. 1251109)
We can all agree that an aborted baby cannot "wonder about" agonizing adoption-related questions. Can we please also agree that being a live adopted child with agonizing, adoption-related questions (that will hopefully be eventually answered over time), is better than being medical waste in a landfill?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 8/17/2022 1:35:50 PM (No. 1251112)
Many 16 year olds have significant intelligence, but they cannot grasp how dangerously immature their decision making processes are at that age. I clearly remember thinking back at the "old" age of 20 and realizing how immature some of my decisions at age 17 and 18 had been, and how fortuanate I was to not have wound up dead from some of my stupid choices. The judge is right.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: GustoGrabber 8/17/2022 2:07:01 PM (No. 1251155)
Prolife states can lead the way by establishing great adoption systems and orphanages. Remove from discussion the objections that adoption is not a desirable alternative.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: SkeezerMcGee 8/17/2022 2:45:23 PM (No. 1251208)
It's probable this case has been decided based upon reasonable evaluations of the mental immaturity of this girl. I'm assuming a trial judge's opinion upheld by an court of appeals is entitled to a presumption of reasonableness after competent representation by her attorney.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Island Life 8/17/2022 2:53:51 PM (No. 1251220)
Abort the judge.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: MsMontana 8/17/2022 2:57:35 PM (No. 1251229)
So many posters here are incredibly sanctimonious and judgmental and NONE of you are lifting a finger to tangibly offer to give this young woman and her child a place to live and the needed tangible help. SHE is important too and is need to actual parents to guide her, and yet she’s in the foster care system with a “relative” who’s “fine” with her getting an abortion. She has no one who really cares about HER. She needs mothering too. You’re mean jerks. No wonder so many women don’t believe they will be helped and not judged.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Beardo 8/17/2022 4:19:00 PM (No. 1251298)
#18 - please try to see the irony in the appearance that your post is more judgmental and sanctimonious than any of the others. These posters are the opposite of indifferent hypocrites.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Catherine 8/17/2022 4:55:48 PM (No. 1251319)
No # 19, # 18 gets it right. I know I'm one of the few here who think pro-choice with time limits should be allowed. I try to respect the replies of most here and do manage not to click on these headlines. But I've noted, time and time again, how cruel, mean and judgemental a lot of so called christian replies are. The pregnant woman is vilified with terrible things said about her. Some just don't understand millions of women do not come from a safe secure life or marriage. Some women are living in danger and poverty. And a lot of them do not have the wherewithal to care for themselves, while pregnant, most likely with other children already. This young girl is old enough to make such a decision as abortion. The ones who aren't capable are those who aren't young and pregnant, parentless and alone.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 8/17/2022 4:56:44 PM (No. 1251320)
There's no easy answer in this situation - a 16-year-old in the foster care system with no job and no parents is not equipped to be a single parent. On the other hand, there are significant consequences to having an abortion at 16. Adoption is probably the best alternative in this situation for both the mother and the child, giving each a chance at a future - the mother to grow up and mature and the child to have a life. It isn't perfect, but it is a better outcome than a dead child or a child being saddled with a baby she's not equipped to raise.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: MSUDoc 8/17/2022 5:24:40 PM (No. 1251339)
#18 and #20 want the baby butchered. Because money. Euphemize all you want, it is murder, pure and simple. Absolute ghouls.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Catherine 8/17/2022 6:30:56 PM (No. 1251395)
And #22 is exactly what I was talking about. Judgements were made about me without knowing a single thing about me or my life. You are free to believe you know whats best for millions of women. But I can also be free to understand life is not perfect and the only person qualified to make serious decisions about her life is the pregnant woman.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: MDConservative 8/17/2022 8:34:53 PM (No. 1251533)
#22, I don't claim to know a single thing about you or your life. I don't know that it matters when the discussion involves the life of an unborn child none of us knows, including the mother. Without a reason benefitting the unborn child, I can see no reason to kill it. I'd be interested in hearing one.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: mifla 8/18/2022 4:56:49 AM (No. 1251772)
Given the physical and psychological impacts of an abortion on a woman who aborts, she should be thanking the judge.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: LaVallette 8/18/2022 8:24:51 AM (No. 1251919)
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