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Posted By: DW626, 6/22/2022 7:03:14 AM

Elections will not legitimize any government if they are rigged. We must end the absurdity whereby a private corporation can be hired to count our votes and then refuse to prove to us exactly how it got the final numbers. If the system is not completely transparent and auditable, you can never be confident in it. You can be completely justified in suspecting that it is fraudulent. When the public no longer trusts those who count the votes, then the outcome will be chaos. The 2020 election was rigged, but it is not up to us to prove that.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: sterling431 6/22/2022 7:13:24 AM (No. 1193171)
A sobering thought. If the Republicans do not win in a landslide in Nov. it will fly in the face of virtually every public opinion polls. Shades of basement dweller Biden getting more votes in history...
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Reply 2 - Posted by: pros7767 6/22/2022 7:37:15 AM (No. 1193182)
An alternate theory to ABC's predictions...After the Republican landslide, the left will be gaslighted into more riots. Watch for more MSM predictions of the same ilk.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: paleoconserv43 6/22/2022 7:38:25 AM (No. 1193183)
I think many of us saw the 2020 steal coming a mile away. That the Trump campaign and National Republican Party were caught so flat footed just shows how inept they were. Now that the Democrats got away with it, it has only emboldened them to do it again. It doesn’t help that we have quislings at NRO and RINOs who still say there is no evidence.of massive fraud in 2020.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 6/22/2022 7:45:33 AM (No. 1193187)
This article makes a point which must be hammered home, one which my father taught me many years ago: "The appearance of Impropriety is as bad as actual impropriety." In order for democracy, even to the limited degree we have it here in a representative republic, to work, the voters must believe that the elections are honest.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: lakerman1 6/22/2022 8:01:53 AM (No. 1193194)
While I don't remember the specifics, there are 20 different election results around the U.S. that predict the winner of the presidency. In 2020, President Trump won 19 out of 20 of those key points.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: wakeupcall 6/22/2022 8:02:09 AM (No. 1193196)
October 25, 2020 Biden himself with a slip of his tongue, for once told the truth of the Marxist Communist democrats. Speaking to former Barack Obama staffers on Pod Save America, host Dan Pfeiffer asked Biden what his message was to people who have not yet voted. --- You need not watch the whole interview. His vote Fraud confession begins at 18:10. Joe Biden: “Well, first of all, you know, uh, what really rankles, uh, my opponent is I say that, uh, the thing that bothers him most is he’s not a patch on Barack’s jeans.” “Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together — and you’d [sic] guys, did it for our, the president Obama’s administration, before this — we have put together, I think, the most extensive and and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." So there you have the cause of America's historic downfall from within. --- "We desire to give the Soviet people absolute liberty of voting for those they desire to elect, those whom they trust to ensure their interests. It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." --- Joseph Stalin "It doesn't matter who they vote for, they always vote for us." --- Joseph Stalin "I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how." --- Joseph Stalin All dictators, and Want-To-Be-Dictators, follow the same criminal pattern.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Quigley 6/22/2022 8:10:05 AM (No. 1193203)
The voting must be auditable and have real time at-the-moment-of-voting security since there is no time for a complex audit between the election and swearing in. If we go in to business together and you hand me a sheet of paper that says “$500.22” which you say is my share of the profit and that I don’t need to see any of the company’s financial records, we’ve got a trust problem.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rumblehog 6/22/2022 8:10:06 AM (No. 1193204)
The Nazi collaborator, George Soros, is the reason for all this evil. Before Soros, we didn't have this level of corruption in our government. Once we allowed him in the breakdown began. Kick him out!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Clinger 6/22/2022 8:12:22 AM (No. 1193207)
Let's say "we" win big in 2022 and 2024. Do we want another 6 years living under a cloud of suspicion weakened on the world stage by claims that the election was illegitimate? This crap has got to stop. We must not only have free and fair elections we need to be able to prove it to ourselves. And there's one more massive need without which all election reform, integrity and transparency is for naught. We must treat fraudulent claims of stolen elections as seriously as actual stolen elections. And if there is any foreign component that's outright treason. If Trump, Rudi, Powell, Lindell, D'Souza were to be proven to have completely fabricated their tales of election fraud and not simply mistaken, I'll personally tie the noose. And it was just proven that Obama and Hillary knowingly and willingly plunged the Trump administration into a nightmare of suspicion with their fraudulent Russian collusion campaign. Is there a single democrat willing to tie their noose? When are we going to take Obama and Hillary at their word given they proclaimed their loyalty to Saul Alinsky which in part includes the philosophy of "the ends justify the means?" Yet we're nut cases for suggesting that they indeed did as they say, and now that has actually been proven?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: chance_232 6/22/2022 8:24:49 AM (No. 1193220)
Of course elections are rigged. The rigging includes multiple votes, voting in several states, ballot stuffing, throwing out good ballots, counting bad ballots, the dead voting, Mikey Mouse voting, miss-counting, jungle primaries in states largely governed by one party, extreme gerrymandering...etc. And my personal favorite.. .lying about your true intentions when running, mis-representing yourself and your opponent. For example, voting for Mitt Romney and getting Pierre Delecto-. Election Fraud aught to be a capital offense and getting caught in a bald faced lie when running for office should immediately disqualify you from running.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: red1066 6/22/2022 9:16:13 AM (No. 1193265)
As I've said before, this upcoming election will be watched like a hawk. I've already read stories of a record numbers of Republicans signing up to be poll watchers. There won't be the amount of cheating this time like in 2020, not that the demosluts won't try.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: SkeezerMcGee 6/22/2022 9:33:40 AM (No. 1193284)
The majority of U,S, voters will vote for Republicans in most local, state and the federal elections, but the Biden Administration obviously does not care. It's full speed ahead with the Green New Deal and open borders, etc. One explanation for this Democrat disregard of the polls may be (probably is) that they know they will win because of computer generated vote counting fraud. What other logical reason can it be?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: MDConservative 6/22/2022 9:39:54 AM (No. 1193290)
The next election and the one after that and the one after that are indeed rigged. Ask the loser, from Gore and Kerry to Hillary and now FPDT. It's become a quadrennial post-election whine. And those apparently doing the rigging are the same people we now look to for "reform". Okay, show some ID...and afterward, the votes are counted. As some are fond of saying, that's where the rigging occurs. #3 points out the Trump campaign and RNC were "caught flatfooted" in '20. Not so. The Trump campaign trotted out some show pony lawyers and went to the wrong venues with their complaints and no actual evidence, whether in state or federal courts. You'd have to ask the legal geniuses why PDT failed to go to the six state legislatures where Republicans had majorities and "upset" elections under questionable circumstances - after bleating about how these legislatures are the states' election authorities. Has FPDT ever explained that?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: ms1234 6/22/2022 9:49:41 AM (No. 1193302)
#11, doesn't matter how many poll watchers there are. Did you see the results that just came in from Georgia? Massive fraud there again. Nothing has been done to stop fraud and nothing will be done. If Georgia is a harbinger of things to come, The Dems will will in a landslide Nov 2022 AND 2024. Like Columbia's elections just held, their Dominion machines helped the socialist win handily. Free and fair elections are a thing of the past. Whom ever has the money to by Dominion voting machines will always win. AND with a Supreme Court that will not hear any fraud cases, the steal will continue.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Rinktum 6/22/2022 10:05:42 AM (No. 1193314)
#11, It won’t matter one bit if we have ample poll watchers, if the machines are rigged, no one can see that. If votes are changed by a program or someone via the internet, who is going to know? They have kept those machines far away from any audits or investigation. It’s known that the machines were hooked up to the internet and yet, no one was allowed to bring that evidence in front of a judge or even the public. 2020 was stolen. I think we all know that. The dark state has done everything in its power to hide any evidence. The fact that Republicans were advising the President to move on didn’t help either. It looks like they feared democrats and the media more than they wanted to protect the vote. Look what their cowardice has wrought. If this country continues on this downward spiral, historians will be able to trace the beginning of our demise to the night of November 3, 2020. That’s when the democrat party committed treason and Republicans turned a blind eye. That night the political elites in both parties united against a common enemy, we the people. They stole our right to choose who would lead us because they feared their control was being threatened by us. President Trump was working for our best interests and the powers that be could not allow that. What makes you think this November will be any different? Democrats will steal it and dare us to say anything, and sadly, Republican leaders won’t say a word.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: stablemoney 6/22/2022 11:05:46 AM (No. 1193361)
The elections are organized so that any dishonest persons can cheat anywhere along the line. No one thing is going to fix it. Paper ballots can be thrown in the trash. The voter rolls are not clean. The vote counters are partisan. The elections are bought by the wealthy at the primary, and at the general election. There are no audits. Illegal ballots are counted. The courts look the other way. The 2020 election was stolen, and the election process is not trustworthy.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Rich323 6/22/2022 11:52:21 AM (No. 1193407)
The great Rush Limbaugh warned us several times during his last year that Democrats would strive to make elections irrelevant, by casting distrust on the results regardless of who won. They seek to appoint politicians via political bodies like Congress and take the vote completely out of our hands. They know who would best serve you. I believe they are winning.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: lennon47 6/22/2022 12:25:53 PM (No. 1193437)
This election was stolen. For Barr, that Az RINO, all saying it was a fair and honest election - full of crap. We saw it happen. Biden got 80 million votes, more than Obama, more than anyone and he never left his basement? Trump was winning during the counting of ballots, they stop counting, cover the windows, lock the doors, and start counting again to watch Trump lose. We have many more examples, the point was made...the Dems cheated. That's what Dems do - lie and cheat. Even biden voters will tell you, don't blame me for what's happening now. My votes did not make a difference - the dems won cheating
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Reply 19 - Posted by: GustoGrabber 6/22/2022 12:33:11 PM (No. 1193445)
The ranking republican on the elections subcommittee is Ryan Stiles. Stiles was Paul Ryan's aid d'camp. So he is a glorified staffer and betlway insider who is to entrusted with conducting hearings on Dominion voting machines if the republicans take the House. HIs views need to be pressed and he needs to committ now---- was there or was there not massive voter fraud in the 2020 election and did it make the vote illigitimate?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: doctorfixit 6/22/2022 1:25:54 PM (No. 1193513)
US elections are the world's most corrupt. I will no longer participate.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Zeek Wolfe 6/22/2022 2:00:51 PM (No. 1193541)
Dominion voting machines come preprogramed to favor Democrat candidates and left-wing initiatives and referendums. Everyone knows that. I've been saying for months that the November election has already been decided. Democrats may lose some high profile races, but down ballot, people you never heard of will continue the thievery pioneered 150 years ago by Democrat "Boss" Tweed. Vote theft is the new normal and honesty the deviation.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: red1066 6/22/2022 2:30:58 PM (No. 1193568)
Pardon me for my optimism.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: franq 6/22/2022 4:40:28 PM (No. 1193659)
"We'll get 'em next time!"
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