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The Progressive Case Against Abortion

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Posted By: Beardo, 1/20/2022 11:26:32 AM

Every year for the past 48 years, anti-abortion activists have gathered in our nation's capital to protest the 1973 Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion in all 50 states. This year, faced with the realistic prospect of that decision being overturned, hopes are at an all-time high. This is one important change that will make the annual March for Life feel different. A less striking change will be the large contingent of progressives and liberals who are turning up in greater numbers each year.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: MrDeplorable 1/20/2022 12:06:30 PM (No. 1045192)
The central fallacy in both the anti-GUN dream and the anti-ABORTION dream is that they depend on raw Government FORCE to deprive citizens of something they have already shown they will keep at all costs, meaning both dreams doom society to endless back-and-forth Holy Wars. Although raw Government FORCE may be a satisfying short-term answer, it can never be a long-term solution.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Starboard_side 1/20/2022 12:11:50 PM (No. 1045205)
What needs to be made clear is that overturning Roe will not mean abortions won't be legal in many States, particularly New York, Washington, Alaska and Hawaii which all had legal abortions PRIOR to the Roe decision. Other states like California, Illinois, and others have laws that will keep abortion legal even if Roe is overturned. This is important because a lot of people likely vote with the democrats because of this one issue, and don't realize it won't affect them at all. It's something democrats know, but choose to exploit anyhow - we need to stop letting them get away with that and be truthful to the people.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: padiva 1/20/2022 1:21:30 PM (No. 1045299)
Abortion is a 10th Amendment issue.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 1/20/2022 2:04:42 PM (No. 1045337)
Some traces of rational thought....but mostly just silly progressive claptrap. Glad to see leftist fools on the right side of this issue, for whatever reasons.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Debaser 1/20/2022 2:19:45 PM (No. 1045356)
I'm for abortion if it reduces the number of criminals created.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Beardo 1/20/2022 4:24:44 PM (No. 1045453)
Please understand that you cannot assume that an overturn of Roe v. Wade will automatically result in abortion law reverting back to a pre-Roe v. Wade status, where each state legislature can enact their own laws either in favor of or against abortion. The reason that this assumption is not accurate, is that all abortion laws to date have been based upon the foolish predicate that a fetus cannot be considered to be a “person” as that term is used in the U.S. Constitution, so the fetus has virtually no rights, including no constitutional right to have their life not taken away, without due process of law. There is a distinct possibility that a majority of this US Supreme Court will reverse this predicate, and find that a fetus does qualify for person status, in which case, the fetus is entitled to her/his own separate court-appointed attorney, and she/he cannot be killed, without due process of law. Due process of law invariably necessitates a formal court hearing, during which the mother would be required to prove that her right not to carry a fetus to full term (whereafter she could give up the child for adoption) outweighs the right of the fetus to live. This is the “normal” and familiar balancing test in all constitutional rights cases. The right not to be arbitrarily killed will nearly always be found to outweigh the mother’s right not to carry a fetus to full term. The one common exception would be a danger to the life of the mother. There was a similar situation with pre-Civil War slavery, that is, slavery could only survive a Constitutional test if the US Supreme Court refused to recognize slaves as persons under the US Constitution. After slaves were finally recognized as persons under the US Constitution, states could no longer enact slavery laws. This analysis and perspective is a product of my education and experience as a practicing attorney in California, Oklahoma and federal courts.
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